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Hi Jag,

Yes, I think we are thinking along the same lines. I personally, don't like to use the word "pagan" for the ancient Gnostics. Pagan suggests that they worshipped a myriad of gods and performed rituals and sacrifices to these gods. I don't think this was the case with the "original Egyptians", or at least their leaders or Priests. The "pagan" worship was introduced later, no doubt......that seems to be the nature of mankind, never satisfied with worshipping and obeying the One True God.

As for Akhenaten, I 've read your post (good post) and I have heard these things also. Some want to equate Moses with Akhenaten, but I would suggest that he was the Pharaoh that gave Moses the hard time in Egypt. The Bible indicates that after Pharoah had lost his army in the Sea of Reeds or the Red Sea after persuing the Israelites, he finally surrendered to God and was converted. So it could have been him.

I think the ancients called their founding fathers "gods" in the same way the Bible uses the term "sons of God" to denote the ancient ancestors of the Hebrews. They weren't really gods in themselves but exhibited qualities of being the creation of God in His image.

In the KJV Bible we read:

Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

Job 38:4-7 (God speaking to Job)
Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Then in the New Testament:

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Before Adam's "Fall from the Garden", he was different, now whether he was a "being of light or not", I can only guess. He was "unspotted from the world". There was peace and harmony in the world in which he lived. He and Eve only knew to do "good" in the eyes of God.

Then the "Serpent" introduced "evil" to Eve and Adam. Now they would know to do BOTH good AND evil. I think it's rather a simple concept. It had nothing to do with worldly knowledge of the sciences, etc., it had to do with "spiritual" knowledge.

Now mankind has been desparately trying to "return" to his "original state" ever since. This is where the promise of the coming seed to Adam was. God told Adam that even though he had sinned and lost his former state of "harmony" with God and nature, that He was going to send a "saviour" to redeem Adam and his descendants in order to return them to their original state. Much of the Bible is about the restoration of God's Kingdom on Earth to where it was in ancient times. This is why is was so important to Adam and Seth and to build the Gizeh complex... so that he and his descendants would have a way to wait and watch for the "signs of the times" and the arrival of their saviour.

I gathered this from reading the Bible and The Lost Books of Eden, and the Antiquities of the Jews by Josephus.

And as the ancient Egyptians called it, the time of Zep Tepi (the first time) - the golden age of peace and harmony.


Kind Regards,
Kimberly

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Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 679 Kees 11-Mar-04 17:14
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 177 newrisingsun 11-Mar-04 19:08
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 181 Kees 13-Mar-04 15:00
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 223 Sphinx 11-Mar-04 20:29
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 187 David L 11-Mar-04 21:39
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 135 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 21:45
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 154 David L 12-Mar-04 18:29
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 156 Milo 12-Mar-04 19:00
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 173 David L 13-Mar-04 15:55
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 214 Sphinx 11-Mar-04 23:59
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 149 Milo 12-Mar-04 01:08
Word is Egyptian 188 Lee McGiffen 12-Mar-04 13:31
Linguistics, diffusion question 139 ananda 12-Mar-04 16:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 156 Milo 12-Mar-04 18:06
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 155 ArmchairObserver 12-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 170 Milo 12-Mar-04 19:02
Erm, thats a circle 166 Kees 13-Mar-04 13:05
Re: Erm, thats a circle 116 newrisingsun 13-Mar-04 14:09
Re: Erm, thats a circle 173 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 133 ArmchairObserver 14-Mar-04 06:13
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 136 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 142 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 13:24
You're post is goroundless ad hominem NRS 150 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:48
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 122 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:52
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 168 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 15:35
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 152 Milo 15-Mar-04 17:45
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 187 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:13
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 137 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 155 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 125 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:36
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 161 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:50
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 124 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:55
BTW... 146 Milo 15-Mar-04 22:58
Re: BTW... 190 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 23:26
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 152 Milo 15-Mar-04 17:54
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 149 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 13:52
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 173 Mark Staab 15-Mar-04 18:38
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 160 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 18:45
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 176 Dominick Ohrbeck 12-Mar-04 18:19
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 128 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Word is Egyptian 172 Milo 12-Mar-04 18:04
Re: Word is Egyptian 173 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Word is Egyptian 159 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 20:30
Re: Word is Egyptian 161 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:58
Re: Word is Egyptian 124 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 21:14
Re: Word is Egyptian 169 Milo 12-Mar-04 21:37
Re: Word is Egyptian 152 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 22:40
Re: Word is Egyptian 128 Milo 12-Mar-04 23:00
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 142 Dominick Ohrbeck 13-Mar-04 00:05
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 169 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 16:08
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 171 Dominick Ohrbeck 15-Mar-04 18:58
Re: Word is Egyptian 166 Milo 13-Mar-04 00:28
Re: Word is Egyptian 177 Sphinx 13-Mar-04 00:01
Re: Word is Egyptian 174 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 14:56
Re: Word is Egyptian 179 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 00:12
Re: Word is Egyptian 186 Milo 13-Mar-04 00:43
Re: Word is Egyptian 168 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 00:47
Re: Word is Egyptian 169 Milo 13-Mar-04 01:31
The Pendulum swings ... 162 Thirdwave 13-Mar-04 11:18
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 168 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 11:38
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 185 Thirdwave 14-Mar-04 00:54
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 158 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:48
Greatest twist ever 176 Kees 13-Mar-04 14:37
Re: Greatest twist ever 164 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:56
Re: Greatest twist ever 193 Kees 16-Mar-04 20:25
Re: Greatest twist ever 185 Milo 16-Mar-04 21:06
Re: Word is Egyptian 210 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 17:55
Re: Word is Egyptian 168 Nebankh 16-Mar-04 11:13
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 189 Kees 11-Mar-04 21:43
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 205 Sphinx 12-Mar-04 00:11
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 145 Milo 12-Mar-04 00:57
Please help me out 174 Kees 13-Mar-04 15:35
Re: Please help me out 131 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:04
Re: Please help me out 192 Kees 16-Mar-04 20:41
Re: Please help me out 160 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 21:13
Re: I need to add.... 171 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 21:46
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 218 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 21:17
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 176 Kees 11-Mar-04 21:44
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 173 Hoppy 11-Mar-04 21:50
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 170 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 22:44
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 133 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:35
1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 151 Dominick Ohrbeck 16-Mar-04 05:45
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 147 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 13:39
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 180 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 03:14
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 170 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:31
Oops, let' try those Sethite links again. 127 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:36
One more time.... 130 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:40
Re: One more time.... 128 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 20:24
Re: One more time.... 173 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 21:03
Re: One more time.... 196 Dominick Ohrbeck 25-Mar-04 19:48
Urantia/Urartia/Ur/Urani/Uranos 206 Kboldt 25-Mar-04 20:31
Re: Van People connection 178 Kboldt 25-Mar-04 21:06
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