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Hi Sphinx,

Sphinx wrote: "You're not suggesting that Jesus was the fullfillment of of what the wise had been saying for ages are you ? :-)"

Actually, yes I am. Believe me, I've been researching this for many years and meditating on these things daily. I love studying ancient history as well as the Bible, and I no longer think that the two are in conflct. When I realized one day that the Bible I had been studying for years was not the first, my eyes were opened.

Yes, you are right, the ancient Egyptian religion does appear to be a mixture of things. But this doesn't desuade me at all. As I stated in another post, much the of the translations of the Pyramid Texts and the Book of the Dead were recopied later. The later artists of the Papyrus of Ani were sloppy, they didn't understand what they were copying, and they left many things out because either they ran out of room or they didn't see the the significance and in some cases they added things. In others words, much of what was rewritten has been "distorted or even perverted" from it's original meaning.

Also, we must understand the "wicked nature of mankind". I am proposing that the ancient Eyptians were the ancestors of the Hebrews, but I am not prosing they were perfect. The Bible has many accounts of God's people going off after "Baal" worship and the worship of idols and other strange rituals. But the first Eyptians were much different than the later Egyptians. In fact, I believe they were a different "family of people" altogether.

As to what you wrote about the Mountain of the Moon: Very, very, interesting. I don't have a problem with this at all. Many stories have come out of Africa, such as the "Lion King".

As for Osiris (also represented as Orion).... I believe him to be another "type" of Jesus. The ancient Egyptians believed in the concept of the resurrection of the body and "eternal life" and that after the resurrection, one would receive a new or glorified body. Osiris suffered a cruel death and horrible mutulation inflicted by the"powers of evil", died, then was resurrected as a saviourof the world. This story continued throughout all of the dynasties, virtually, unaltered. I find this to beinteresting.

Here's an example of one the textsfrom the Book of the Dead regarding Osiris :

"Hail to thee, Osiris, lord of eternity, king of the gods, thou who hast many names, thou disposer of created things, thou who has hidden forms in the temples, thou sacred one, thou KA who dwellest in Tattu.....(further down we read:) to thee are obedient the stars in the heights, and thou openest the mighty gates. Thou art the lord of whom hymns of praise are sung in the southern heaven, and unto thee are adorations paid in the northern heaven........When those who are among the holy ones see thee they tremble at thee, and the whole world givest praise to thee when it meeteth thy majesty.......(later on) Thou hast made this earth by thy hand, and the waters thereof, and the wind thereof, the herb thereof, and all the four-footed beasts thereof.....the world is gratified when thou ascendest thy father's throne like Ra."

In the Bible, we have Abraham who traveled to Egypt, Moses who was raised in Egypt, Joseph is carried to Egypt and ends up living there, then in the New Testament, the angel tells Joseph to take Mary and Jesus to Egypt to flee Herod's murderous rampage. Why Egypt? There were many other places to flee to. My educated guess, is that they all visited the city of "On" or Heliopolis. They were drawn there. The Bible is silent on what happened to Jesus while in Egypt, but the Gnostics texts aren't. They tell of Jesus when he was but a small child entering into the gates of a particular city in Egypt. There the "pillars and idols" literally fell down and broke apart before him when he entered after they announced his presence.

The "Word of Osiris" spread all over the world back then, just as the "Word of God" of the Holy Bible has spread to the whole world today. It's an amazing parallel.

There's much more, but I don't want this post to get too lengthy.

Sincerely,
Kimberly

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Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 720 Kees 11-Mar-04 17:14
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 192 newrisingsun 11-Mar-04 19:08
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 196 Kees 13-Mar-04 15:00
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 241 Sphinx 11-Mar-04 20:29
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 198 David L 11-Mar-04 21:39
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 146 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 21:45
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 167 David L 12-Mar-04 18:29
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 171 Milo 12-Mar-04 19:00
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 185 David L 13-Mar-04 15:55
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 230 Sphinx 11-Mar-04 23:59
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 162 Milo 12-Mar-04 01:08
Word is Egyptian 201 Lee McGiffen 12-Mar-04 13:31
Linguistics, diffusion question 153 ananda 12-Mar-04 16:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 168 Milo 12-Mar-04 18:06
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 179 ArmchairObserver 12-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 184 Milo 12-Mar-04 19:02
Erm, thats a circle 180 Kees 13-Mar-04 13:05
Re: Erm, thats a circle 130 newrisingsun 13-Mar-04 14:09
Re: Erm, thats a circle 187 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 147 ArmchairObserver 14-Mar-04 06:13
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 151 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 155 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 13:24
You're post is goroundless ad hominem NRS 164 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:48
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 136 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:52
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 181 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 15:35
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 166 Milo 15-Mar-04 17:45
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 202 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:13
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 152 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 169 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 139 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:36
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 177 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:50
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 138 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:55
BTW... 162 Milo 15-Mar-04 22:58
Re: BTW... 205 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 23:26
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 171 Milo 15-Mar-04 17:54
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 162 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 13:52
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 188 Mark Staab 15-Mar-04 18:38
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 171 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 18:45
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 192 Dominick Ohrbeck 12-Mar-04 18:19
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 141 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Word is Egyptian 187 Milo 12-Mar-04 18:04
Re: Word is Egyptian 197 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Word is Egyptian 174 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 20:30
Re: Word is Egyptian 176 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:58
Re: Word is Egyptian 136 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 21:14
Re: Word is Egyptian 183 Milo 12-Mar-04 21:37
Re: Word is Egyptian 167 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 22:40
Re: Word is Egyptian 142 Milo 12-Mar-04 23:00
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 153 Dominick Ohrbeck 13-Mar-04 00:05
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 181 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 16:08
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 193 Dominick Ohrbeck 15-Mar-04 18:58
Re: Word is Egyptian 178 Milo 13-Mar-04 00:28
Re: Word is Egyptian 191 Sphinx 13-Mar-04 00:01
Re: Word is Egyptian 185 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 14:56
Re: Word is Egyptian 191 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 00:12
Re: Word is Egyptian 199 Milo 13-Mar-04 00:43
Re: Word is Egyptian 188 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 00:47
Re: Word is Egyptian 183 Milo 13-Mar-04 01:31
The Pendulum swings ... 176 Thirdwave 13-Mar-04 11:18
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 186 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 11:38
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 200 Thirdwave 14-Mar-04 00:54
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 174 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:48
Greatest twist ever 190 Kees 13-Mar-04 14:37
Re: Greatest twist ever 182 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:56
Re: Greatest twist ever 206 Kees 16-Mar-04 20:25
Re: Greatest twist ever 198 Milo 16-Mar-04 21:06
Re: Word is Egyptian 223 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 17:55
Re: Word is Egyptian 182 Nebankh 16-Mar-04 11:13
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 202 Kees 11-Mar-04 21:43
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 223 Sphinx 12-Mar-04 00:11
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 159 Milo 12-Mar-04 00:57
Please help me out 189 Kees 13-Mar-04 15:35
Re: Please help me out 146 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:04
Re: Please help me out 208 Kees 16-Mar-04 20:41
Re: Please help me out 175 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 21:13
Re: I need to add.... 183 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 21:46
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 231 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 21:17
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 195 Kees 11-Mar-04 21:44
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 186 Hoppy 11-Mar-04 21:50
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 183 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 22:44
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 148 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:35
1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 166 Dominick Ohrbeck 16-Mar-04 05:45
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 161 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 13:39
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 193 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 03:14
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 184 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:31
Oops, let' try those Sethite links again. 142 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:36
One more time.... 144 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:40
Re: One more time.... 143 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 20:24
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