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Hi Sphinx,

Sphinx wrote: "You're not suggesting that Jesus was the fullfillment of of what the wise had been saying for ages are you ? :-)"

Actually, yes I am. Believe me, I've been researching this for many years and meditating on these things daily. I love studying ancient history as well as the Bible, and I no longer think that the two are in conflct. When I realized one day that the Bible I had been studying for years was not the first, my eyes were opened.

Yes, you are right, the ancient Egyptian religion does appear to be a mixture of things. But this doesn't desuade me at all. As I stated in another post, much the of the translations of the Pyramid Texts and the Book of the Dead were recopied later. The later artists of the Papyrus of Ani were sloppy, they didn't understand what they were copying, and they left many things out because either they ran out of room or they didn't see the the significance and in some cases they added things. In others words, much of what was rewritten has been "distorted or even perverted" from it's original meaning.

Also, we must understand the "wicked nature of mankind". I am proposing that the ancient Eyptians were the ancestors of the Hebrews, but I am not prosing they were perfect. The Bible has many accounts of God's people going off after "Baal" worship and the worship of idols and other strange rituals. But the first Eyptians were much different than the later Egyptians. In fact, I believe they were a different "family of people" altogether.

As to what you wrote about the Mountain of the Moon: Very, very, interesting. I don't have a problem with this at all. Many stories have come out of Africa, such as the "Lion King".

As for Osiris (also represented as Orion).... I believe him to be another "type" of Jesus. The ancient Egyptians believed in the concept of the resurrection of the body and "eternal life" and that after the resurrection, one would receive a new or glorified body. Osiris suffered a cruel death and horrible mutulation inflicted by the"powers of evil", died, then was resurrected as a saviourof the world. This story continued throughout all of the dynasties, virtually, unaltered. I find this to beinteresting.

Here's an example of one the textsfrom the Book of the Dead regarding Osiris :

"Hail to thee, Osiris, lord of eternity, king of the gods, thou who hast many names, thou disposer of created things, thou who has hidden forms in the temples, thou sacred one, thou KA who dwellest in Tattu.....(further down we read:) to thee are obedient the stars in the heights, and thou openest the mighty gates. Thou art the lord of whom hymns of praise are sung in the southern heaven, and unto thee are adorations paid in the northern heaven........When those who are among the holy ones see thee they tremble at thee, and the whole world givest praise to thee when it meeteth thy majesty.......(later on) Thou hast made this earth by thy hand, and the waters thereof, and the wind thereof, the herb thereof, and all the four-footed beasts thereof.....the world is gratified when thou ascendest thy father's throne like Ra."

In the Bible, we have Abraham who traveled to Egypt, Moses who was raised in Egypt, Joseph is carried to Egypt and ends up living there, then in the New Testament, the angel tells Joseph to take Mary and Jesus to Egypt to flee Herod's murderous rampage. Why Egypt? There were many other places to flee to. My educated guess, is that they all visited the city of "On" or Heliopolis. They were drawn there. The Bible is silent on what happened to Jesus while in Egypt, but the Gnostics texts aren't. They tell of Jesus when he was but a small child entering into the gates of a particular city in Egypt. There the "pillars and idols" literally fell down and broke apart before him when he entered after they announced his presence.

The "Word of Osiris" spread all over the world back then, just as the "Word of God" of the Holy Bible has spread to the whole world today. It's an amazing parallel.

There's much more, but I don't want this post to get too lengthy.

Sincerely,
Kimberly

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Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 676 Kees 11-Mar-04 17:14
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 176 newrisingsun 11-Mar-04 19:08
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 181 Kees 13-Mar-04 15:00
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 222 Sphinx 11-Mar-04 20:29
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 186 David L 11-Mar-04 21:39
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 133 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 21:45
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 153 David L 12-Mar-04 18:29
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 155 Milo 12-Mar-04 19:00
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 172 David L 13-Mar-04 15:55
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 213 Sphinx 11-Mar-04 23:59
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 148 Milo 12-Mar-04 01:08
Word is Egyptian 188 Lee McGiffen 12-Mar-04 13:31
Linguistics, diffusion question 138 ananda 12-Mar-04 16:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 155 Milo 12-Mar-04 18:06
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 155 ArmchairObserver 12-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 169 Milo 12-Mar-04 19:02
Erm, thats a circle 165 Kees 13-Mar-04 13:05
Re: Erm, thats a circle 114 newrisingsun 13-Mar-04 14:09
Re: Erm, thats a circle 173 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 132 ArmchairObserver 14-Mar-04 06:13
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 133 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 140 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 13:24
You're post is goroundless ad hominem NRS 150 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:48
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 122 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:52
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 167 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 15:35
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 151 Milo 15-Mar-04 17:45
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 187 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:13
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 136 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 153 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:32
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Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 161 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:50
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 122 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:55
BTW... 145 Milo 15-Mar-04 22:58
Re: BTW... 189 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 23:26
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 151 Milo 15-Mar-04 17:54
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 148 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 13:52
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 173 Mark Staab 15-Mar-04 18:38
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 159 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 18:45
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 175 Dominick Ohrbeck 12-Mar-04 18:19
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 127 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Word is Egyptian 171 Milo 12-Mar-04 18:04
Re: Word is Egyptian 172 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Word is Egyptian 158 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 20:30
Re: Word is Egyptian 160 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:58
Re: Word is Egyptian 121 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 21:14
Re: Word is Egyptian 169 Milo 12-Mar-04 21:37
Re: Word is Egyptian 152 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 22:40
Re: Word is Egyptian 126 Milo 12-Mar-04 23:00
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 140 Dominick Ohrbeck 13-Mar-04 00:05
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 167 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 16:08
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 171 Dominick Ohrbeck 15-Mar-04 18:58
Re: Word is Egyptian 165 Milo 13-Mar-04 00:28
Re: Word is Egyptian 175 Sphinx 13-Mar-04 00:01
Re: Word is Egyptian 173 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 14:56
Re: Word is Egyptian 178 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 00:12
Re: Word is Egyptian 185 Milo 13-Mar-04 00:43
Re: Word is Egyptian 167 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 00:47
Re: Word is Egyptian 168 Milo 13-Mar-04 01:31
The Pendulum swings ... 160 Thirdwave 13-Mar-04 11:18
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 168 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 11:38
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 185 Thirdwave 14-Mar-04 00:54
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 157 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:48
Greatest twist ever 176 Kees 13-Mar-04 14:37
Re: Greatest twist ever 164 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:56
Re: Greatest twist ever 192 Kees 16-Mar-04 20:25
Re: Greatest twist ever 183 Milo 16-Mar-04 21:06
Re: Word is Egyptian 209 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 17:55
Re: Word is Egyptian 167 Nebankh 16-Mar-04 11:13
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 187 Kees 11-Mar-04 21:43
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 205 Sphinx 12-Mar-04 00:11
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 145 Milo 12-Mar-04 00:57
Please help me out 174 Kees 13-Mar-04 15:35
Re: Please help me out 131 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:04
Re: Please help me out 191 Kees 16-Mar-04 20:41
Re: Please help me out 159 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 21:13
Re: I need to add.... 170 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 21:46
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 216 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 21:17
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 175 Kees 11-Mar-04 21:44
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 172 Hoppy 11-Mar-04 21:50
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 169 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 22:44
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 132 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:35
1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 151 Dominick Ohrbeck 16-Mar-04 05:45
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 146 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 13:39
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 178 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 03:14
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 170 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:31
Oops, let' try those Sethite links again. 126 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:36
One more time.... 129 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:40
Re: One more time.... 128 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 20:24
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