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Hi Stephanie,

I understand where you are coming from. Yes, it is a matter of belief. The evidence is there that there was preworld Jesus, but one has to believe the evidence. You must be able to "see" with an open mind and heart.

In The New Testament Jesus asks his disciples....
John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things?

And the Apostle Paul states in the NT
1Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned."

Many mysteries of the Bible, ancient Egypt, elsewhere also have to be "spiritually discerned", otherwise there's no way for us to understand the messages.

For example:

In E.A . Wallis Budge's "The Egyptian Book of the Dead", (which I have in front of me right now) Budge gives us an explanation that when the Papyrus of Ani was recopied from the much older texts, the later translaters did not understand what they were copying. Much of what was copied was sloppy. Much was left out, and many things were added that were different from the original texts. But enough information made it through correctly.

When Budge and others were finally able to get a satisfactory translation of the words of the Book of Dead, they admitted that much of it was metaphorical. In other words, there were many symbols that stood for something that only someone who lived during those ancient times would understand. How would a translator know what to take literally, and what to understand metaphorically? Budge understood that what he was reading compared remarkably to the texts of the Bible. So he began to read his Bible again to get an understanding.

Much of the Bible is written in metaphor or "figure of speech". If one reads and studies the whole Bible, one begins to understand what is symbolic and what was meant to be takenliterally.

Now, if we read the Book of the Dead (which I believe to be part of the earliest form of the Holy Bible) with these things in mind, you can begin to understand some of the "strange" or "weird" symbols or rituals. If one does not understand the symbols, then I can certainly understand why modern scholars think that the ancient Eygptians were just a "group of pagans". But were they?

So I believe if one understands the Holy Bible, then one can have a proper interpretation of the ancient Pyramid Texts and the Book of the Dead.

Also, one has to believe that the Pyramids Texts, and the Book of the Dead are also an actual historical account as one would the Bible.

But, again, if one doesn't believe these things, then I could show all the proof in the world, and it wouldn't make any difference.


Sincerely,
Kimberly

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Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 677 Kees 11-Mar-04 17:14
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 176 newrisingsun 11-Mar-04 19:08
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 181 Kees 13-Mar-04 15:00
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 222 Sphinx 11-Mar-04 20:29
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 186 David L 11-Mar-04 21:39
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 134 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 21:45
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 153 David L 12-Mar-04 18:29
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 155 Milo 12-Mar-04 19:00
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 172 David L 13-Mar-04 15:55
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 214 Sphinx 11-Mar-04 23:59
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 148 Milo 12-Mar-04 01:08
Word is Egyptian 188 Lee McGiffen 12-Mar-04 13:31
Linguistics, diffusion question 138 ananda 12-Mar-04 16:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 156 Milo 12-Mar-04 18:06
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 155 ArmchairObserver 12-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 169 Milo 12-Mar-04 19:02
Erm, thats a circle 165 Kees 13-Mar-04 13:05
Re: Erm, thats a circle 115 newrisingsun 13-Mar-04 14:09
Re: Erm, thats a circle 173 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 132 ArmchairObserver 14-Mar-04 06:13
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 134 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 141 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 13:24
You're post is goroundless ad hominem NRS 150 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:48
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 122 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:52
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 167 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 15:35
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 152 Milo 15-Mar-04 17:45
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 187 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:13
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 136 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 155 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 123 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:36
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 161 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:50
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 123 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:55
BTW... 146 Milo 15-Mar-04 22:58
Re: BTW... 189 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 23:26
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 151 Milo 15-Mar-04 17:54
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 148 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 13:52
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 173 Mark Staab 15-Mar-04 18:38
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 160 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 18:45
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 176 Dominick Ohrbeck 12-Mar-04 18:19
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 127 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Word is Egyptian 171 Milo 12-Mar-04 18:04
Re: Word is Egyptian 172 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Word is Egyptian 158 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 20:30
Re: Word is Egyptian 160 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:58
Re: Word is Egyptian 122 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 21:14
Re: Word is Egyptian 169 Milo 12-Mar-04 21:37
Re: Word is Egyptian 152 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 22:40
Re: Word is Egyptian 126 Milo 12-Mar-04 23:00
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 141 Dominick Ohrbeck 13-Mar-04 00:05
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 167 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 16:08
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 171 Dominick Ohrbeck 15-Mar-04 18:58
Re: Word is Egyptian 166 Milo 13-Mar-04 00:28
Re: Word is Egyptian 175 Sphinx 13-Mar-04 00:01
Re: Word is Egyptian 174 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 14:56
Re: Word is Egyptian 178 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 00:12
Re: Word is Egyptian 186 Milo 13-Mar-04 00:43
Re: Word is Egyptian 167 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 00:47
Re: Word is Egyptian 168 Milo 13-Mar-04 01:31
The Pendulum swings ... 161 Thirdwave 13-Mar-04 11:18
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 168 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 11:38
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 185 Thirdwave 14-Mar-04 00:54
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 157 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:48
Greatest twist ever 176 Kees 13-Mar-04 14:37
Re: Greatest twist ever 164 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:56
Re: Greatest twist ever 192 Kees 16-Mar-04 20:25
Re: Greatest twist ever 185 Milo 16-Mar-04 21:06
Re: Word is Egyptian 209 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 17:55
Re: Word is Egyptian 167 Nebankh 16-Mar-04 11:13
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 188 Kees 11-Mar-04 21:43
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 205 Sphinx 12-Mar-04 00:11
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 145 Milo 12-Mar-04 00:57
Please help me out 174 Kees 13-Mar-04 15:35
Re: Please help me out 131 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:04
Re: Please help me out 192 Kees 16-Mar-04 20:41
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Re: I need to add.... 171 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 21:46
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 217 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 21:17
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 175 Kees 11-Mar-04 21:44
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 172 Hoppy 11-Mar-04 21:50
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 169 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 22:44
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 132 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:35
1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 151 Dominick Ohrbeck 16-Mar-04 05:45
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 146 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 13:39
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 179 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 03:14
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 170 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:31
Oops, let' try those Sethite links again. 126 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:36
One more time.... 129 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:40
Re: One more time.... 128 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 20:24
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