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Hi Stephanie,

I understand where you are coming from. Yes, it is a matter of belief. The evidence is there that there was preworld Jesus, but one has to believe the evidence. You must be able to "see" with an open mind and heart.

In The New Testament Jesus asks his disciples....
John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things?

And the Apostle Paul states in the NT
1Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned."

Many mysteries of the Bible, ancient Egypt, elsewhere also have to be "spiritually discerned", otherwise there's no way for us to understand the messages.

For example:

In E.A . Wallis Budge's "The Egyptian Book of the Dead", (which I have in front of me right now) Budge gives us an explanation that when the Papyrus of Ani was recopied from the much older texts, the later translaters did not understand what they were copying. Much of what was copied was sloppy. Much was left out, and many things were added that were different from the original texts. But enough information made it through correctly.

When Budge and others were finally able to get a satisfactory translation of the words of the Book of Dead, they admitted that much of it was metaphorical. In other words, there were many symbols that stood for something that only someone who lived during those ancient times would understand. How would a translator know what to take literally, and what to understand metaphorically? Budge understood that what he was reading compared remarkably to the texts of the Bible. So he began to read his Bible again to get an understanding.

Much of the Bible is written in metaphor or "figure of speech". If one reads and studies the whole Bible, one begins to understand what is symbolic and what was meant to be takenliterally.

Now, if we read the Book of the Dead (which I believe to be part of the earliest form of the Holy Bible) with these things in mind, you can begin to understand some of the "strange" or "weird" symbols or rituals. If one does not understand the symbols, then I can certainly understand why modern scholars think that the ancient Eygptians were just a "group of pagans". But were they?

So I believe if one understands the Holy Bible, then one can have a proper interpretation of the ancient Pyramid Texts and the Book of the Dead.

Also, one has to believe that the Pyramids Texts, and the Book of the Dead are also an actual historical account as one would the Bible.

But, again, if one doesn't believe these things, then I could show all the proof in the world, and it wouldn't make any difference.


Sincerely,
Kimberly

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Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 723 Kees 11-Mar-04 17:14
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 192 newrisingsun 11-Mar-04 19:08
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 196 Kees 13-Mar-04 15:00
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 241 Sphinx 11-Mar-04 20:29
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 198 David L 11-Mar-04 21:39
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 147 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 21:45
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 167 David L 12-Mar-04 18:29
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 172 Milo 12-Mar-04 19:00
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 186 David L 13-Mar-04 15:55
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 231 Sphinx 11-Mar-04 23:59
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 162 Milo 12-Mar-04 01:08
Word is Egyptian 201 Lee McGiffen 12-Mar-04 13:31
Linguistics, diffusion question 153 ananda 12-Mar-04 16:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 169 Milo 12-Mar-04 18:06
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 180 ArmchairObserver 12-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 184 Milo 12-Mar-04 19:02
Erm, thats a circle 181 Kees 13-Mar-04 13:05
Re: Erm, thats a circle 131 newrisingsun 13-Mar-04 14:09
Re: Erm, thats a circle 187 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 147 ArmchairObserver 14-Mar-04 06:13
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 151 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 157 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 13:24
You're post is goroundless ad hominem NRS 164 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:48
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 136 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:52
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 181 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 15:35
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 166 Milo 15-Mar-04 17:45
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 202 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:13
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 152 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 170 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 139 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:36
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 177 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:50
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 138 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:55
BTW... 162 Milo 15-Mar-04 22:58
Re: BTW... 205 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 23:26
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 171 Milo 15-Mar-04 17:54
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 162 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 13:52
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 188 Mark Staab 15-Mar-04 18:38
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 172 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 18:45
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 193 Dominick Ohrbeck 12-Mar-04 18:19
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 141 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Word is Egyptian 187 Milo 12-Mar-04 18:04
Re: Word is Egyptian 197 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Word is Egyptian 174 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 20:30
Re: Word is Egyptian 177 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:58
Re: Word is Egyptian 138 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 21:14
Re: Word is Egyptian 184 Milo 12-Mar-04 21:37
Re: Word is Egyptian 168 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 22:40
Re: Word is Egyptian 142 Milo 12-Mar-04 23:00
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 154 Dominick Ohrbeck 13-Mar-04 00:05
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 182 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 16:08
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 193 Dominick Ohrbeck 15-Mar-04 18:58
Re: Word is Egyptian 180 Milo 13-Mar-04 00:28
Re: Word is Egyptian 191 Sphinx 13-Mar-04 00:01
Re: Word is Egyptian 186 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 14:56
Re: Word is Egyptian 192 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 00:12
Re: Word is Egyptian 200 Milo 13-Mar-04 00:43
Re: Word is Egyptian 188 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 00:47
Re: Word is Egyptian 183 Milo 13-Mar-04 01:31
The Pendulum swings ... 177 Thirdwave 13-Mar-04 11:18
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 186 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 11:38
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 200 Thirdwave 14-Mar-04 00:54
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 175 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:48
Greatest twist ever 190 Kees 13-Mar-04 14:37
Re: Greatest twist ever 182 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:56
Re: Greatest twist ever 206 Kees 16-Mar-04 20:25
Re: Greatest twist ever 199 Milo 16-Mar-04 21:06
Re: Word is Egyptian 224 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 17:55
Re: Word is Egyptian 182 Nebankh 16-Mar-04 11:13
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 203 Kees 11-Mar-04 21:43
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 223 Sphinx 12-Mar-04 00:11
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 159 Milo 12-Mar-04 00:57
Please help me out 189 Kees 13-Mar-04 15:35
Re: Please help me out 146 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:04
Re: Please help me out 213 Kees 16-Mar-04 20:41
Re: Please help me out 175 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 21:13
Re: I need to add.... 184 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 21:46
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 231 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 21:17
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 195 Kees 11-Mar-04 21:44
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 186 Hoppy 11-Mar-04 21:50
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 183 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 22:44
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 148 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:35
1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 166 Dominick Ohrbeck 16-Mar-04 05:45
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 162 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 13:39
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 194 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 03:14
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 185 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:31
Oops, let' try those Sethite links again. 142 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:36
One more time.... 144 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:40
Re: One more time.... 144 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 20:24
Re: One more time.... 189 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 21:03
Re: One more time.... 217 Dominick Ohrbeck 25-Mar-04 19:48
Urantia/Urartia/Ur/Urani/Uranos 231 Kboldt 25-Mar-04 20:31
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