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Hi Stephanie,

I understand where you are coming from. Yes, it is a matter of belief. The evidence is there that there was preworld Jesus, but one has to believe the evidence. You must be able to "see" with an open mind and heart.

In The New Testament Jesus asks his disciples....
John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things?

And the Apostle Paul states in the NT
1Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned."

Many mysteries of the Bible, ancient Egypt, elsewhere also have to be "spiritually discerned", otherwise there's no way for us to understand the messages.

For example:

In E.A . Wallis Budge's "The Egyptian Book of the Dead", (which I have in front of me right now) Budge gives us an explanation that when the Papyrus of Ani was recopied from the much older texts, the later translaters did not understand what they were copying. Much of what was copied was sloppy. Much was left out, and many things were added that were different from the original texts. But enough information made it through correctly.

When Budge and others were finally able to get a satisfactory translation of the words of the Book of Dead, they admitted that much of it was metaphorical. In other words, there were many symbols that stood for something that only someone who lived during those ancient times would understand. How would a translator know what to take literally, and what to understand metaphorically? Budge understood that what he was reading compared remarkably to the texts of the Bible. So he began to read his Bible again to get an understanding.

Much of the Bible is written in metaphor or "figure of speech". If one reads and studies the whole Bible, one begins to understand what is symbolic and what was meant to be takenliterally.

Now, if we read the Book of the Dead (which I believe to be part of the earliest form of the Holy Bible) with these things in mind, you can begin to understand some of the "strange" or "weird" symbols or rituals. If one does not understand the symbols, then I can certainly understand why modern scholars think that the ancient Eygptians were just a "group of pagans". But were they?

So I believe if one understands the Holy Bible, then one can have a proper interpretation of the ancient Pyramid Texts and the Book of the Dead.

Also, one has to believe that the Pyramids Texts, and the Book of the Dead are also an actual historical account as one would the Bible.

But, again, if one doesn't believe these things, then I could show all the proof in the world, and it wouldn't make any difference.


Sincerely,
Kimberly

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Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 935 Kees 11-Mar-04 17:14
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 270 newrisingsun 11-Mar-04 19:08
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 271 Kees 13-Mar-04 15:00
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 335 Sphinx 11-Mar-04 20:29
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 269 David L 11-Mar-04 21:39
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 219 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 21:45
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 246 David L 12-Mar-04 18:29
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 248 Milo 12-Mar-04 19:00
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 255 David L 13-Mar-04 15:55
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 314 Sphinx 11-Mar-04 23:59
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 232 Milo 12-Mar-04 01:08
Word is Egyptian 279 Lee McGiffen 12-Mar-04 13:31
Linguistics, diffusion question 223 ananda 12-Mar-04 16:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 240 Milo 12-Mar-04 18:06
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 265 ArmchairObserver 12-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 252 Milo 12-Mar-04 19:02
Erm, thats a circle 253 Kees 13-Mar-04 13:05
Re: Erm, thats a circle 198 newrisingsun 13-Mar-04 14:09
Re: Erm, thats a circle 264 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 226 ArmchairObserver 14-Mar-04 06:13
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 237 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 228 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 13:24
You're post is goroundless ad hominem NRS 233 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:48
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 201 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:52
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 250 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 15:35
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 240 Milo 15-Mar-04 17:45
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 273 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:13
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 228 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 246 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:32
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Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 247 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:50
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 208 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:55
BTW... 235 Milo 15-Mar-04 22:58
Re: BTW... 276 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 23:26
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 243 Milo 15-Mar-04 17:54
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 230 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 13:52
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Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 237 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 18:45
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 265 Dominick Ohrbeck 12-Mar-04 18:19
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 209 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Word is Egyptian 258 Milo 12-Mar-04 18:04
Re: Word is Egyptian 266 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Word is Egyptian 245 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 20:30
Re: Word is Egyptian 253 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:58
Re: Word is Egyptian 208 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 21:14
Re: Word is Egyptian 255 Milo 12-Mar-04 21:37
Re: Word is Egyptian 246 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 22:40
Re: Word is Egyptian 210 Milo 12-Mar-04 23:00
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 227 Dominick Ohrbeck 13-Mar-04 00:05
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 254 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 16:08
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 274 Dominick Ohrbeck 15-Mar-04 18:58
Re: Word is Egyptian 254 Milo 13-Mar-04 00:28
Re: Word is Egyptian 273 Sphinx 13-Mar-04 00:01
Re: Word is Egyptian 255 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 14:56
Re: Word is Egyptian 266 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 00:12
Re: Word is Egyptian 272 Milo 13-Mar-04 00:43
Re: Word is Egyptian 276 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 00:47
Re: Word is Egyptian 252 Milo 13-Mar-04 01:31
The Pendulum swings ... 244 Thirdwave 13-Mar-04 11:18
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 257 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 11:38
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 273 Thirdwave 14-Mar-04 00:54
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 252 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:48
Greatest twist ever 260 Kees 13-Mar-04 14:37
Re: Greatest twist ever 255 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:56
Re: Greatest twist ever 275 Kees 16-Mar-04 20:25
Re: Greatest twist ever 278 Milo 16-Mar-04 21:06
Re: Word is Egyptian 304 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 17:55
Re: Word is Egyptian 246 Nebankh 16-Mar-04 11:13
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 272 Kees 11-Mar-04 21:43
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 306 Sphinx 12-Mar-04 00:11
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 237 Milo 12-Mar-04 00:57
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Re: Please help me out 214 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:04
Re: Please help me out 284 Kees 16-Mar-04 20:41
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Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 301 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 21:17
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 263 Kees 11-Mar-04 21:44
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 256 Hoppy 11-Mar-04 21:50
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 253 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 22:44
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 219 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:35
1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 243 Dominick Ohrbeck 16-Mar-04 05:45
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 243 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 13:39
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 265 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 03:14
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 259 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:31
Oops, let' try those Sethite links again. 208 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:36
One more time.... 214 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:40
Re: One more time.... 224 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 20:24
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