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Hi Anthony,

you wrote :
I can't help feeling that this argument is back to front, it's kind of like: this evidence can't be right because it doesn't fit my theory. But even if we do argue it back to front then one could still argue that Jesus' message is that humanity's path forward is spiritual is surely stronger if he is a man like all the rest of us and manages to take the spiritual path. Otherwise a man might not be totally unjustified in saying, "OK Jesus, its alright for you to say look at me I've taken the spiritual path, but you are a god after all."

That is a very good point.

Don't worry about the references to back up your theory.
I no longer search for such because I know that no reference will
be able to convince anybody on this controversial subject.
That I why now after reading countless book on it I just develop
a feeling that I explain as such and don't bother anymore for
the references. When the feeling is so deep that you feel it in
your bones, heart and brain you can safely assume you have
found your own Truth and there is no need anymore for proof.
That is what I wish to everybody to find.
Cheers,
Claude

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Mysticism and Knights Templars 570 Melusine 26-Feb-04 04:39
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 304 Mark Staab 26-Feb-04 05:21
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 235 Melusine 26-Feb-04 13:31
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 238 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 15:52
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 188 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:23
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 274 Dominick Ohrbeck 15-Mar-04 18:35
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 272 Milo 26-Feb-04 15:58
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 231 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:28
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 300 Milo 26-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 229 Melusine 26-Feb-04 21:06
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 239 Milo 26-Feb-04 21:13
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 339 Melusine 28-Feb-04 17:41
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 224 Milo 28-Feb-04 18:11
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 236 Melusine 28-Feb-04 18:21
Will do, thanks! n/t 247 Milo 28-Feb-04 18:29
Smokescreen for science and wealth? 226 ananda 02-Mar-04 15:46
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 223 Milo 02-Mar-04 19:19
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 234 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 20:24
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 218 Milo 02-Mar-04 20:58
I forgot to add... 237 Milo 02-Mar-04 21:05
Re: I forgot to add... 278 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 21:28
Superiority raises its ugly head 204 Archietype 03-Mar-04 08:12
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 244 Milo 03-Mar-04 15:10
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 256 Archietype 04-Mar-04 17:25
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 239 Milo 04-Mar-04 17:48
Re: writing 306 Archietype 04-Mar-04 18:31
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 238 Mark Staab 04-Mar-04 18:08
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 263 Alatariel 04-Mar-04 00:42
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 226 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:10
Over the Rainbow... 298 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:26
Re: Over the Rainbow... 300 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:39
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 258 Lee McGiffen 04-Mar-04 09:32
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 246 Melusine 04-Mar-04 09:48
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 313 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:13
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 242 Melusine 04-Mar-04 10:04
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 296 Melusine 04-Mar-04 10:07
My two cents... 271 Milo 04-Mar-04 16:16
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Re: My two cents... 214 Melusine 04-Mar-04 21:46
Re: My two cents... 158 Milo 04-Mar-04 22:32
On further thought... 230 Milo 05-Mar-04 06:08
Re: On further thought... 279 Melusine 06-Mar-04 15:29
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Re: My two cents too 186 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:30
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Big Misunderstanding!!! 280 Milo 10-Mar-04 16:59
Re: Big Misunderstanding!!! 253 Kboldt 10-Mar-04 17:36
Some more cents... 201 Anthony Taylor 09-Mar-04 19:37
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Re: Some more cents... 228 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:22
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 167 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:23
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 243 Milo 05-Mar-04 02:36
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 277 smetters 05-Mar-04 13:31
The Message of the Marriage of Cana 290 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 17:08
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Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 192 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 15:02
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Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 242 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 15:57
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 262 smetters 09-Mar-04 16:54
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 219 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:37
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 195 Mark Staab 10-Mar-04 01:42
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 234 Melusine 11-Mar-04 01:52
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 231 Mark Staab 11-Mar-04 07:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 273 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 16:35
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 155 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:32
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 234 smetters 10-Mar-04 10:45
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 203 smetters 09-Mar-04 15:18
I for got this part... 284 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 18:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 279 Milo 05-Mar-04 18:21
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 250 Alatariel 07-Mar-04 03:16
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Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 202 David L 07-Mar-04 05:30
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Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 284 ananda 02-Mar-04 23:14
Feudalism is still with us, thanks to the secret socieites 280 Milo 02-Mar-04 23:40
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