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Hi Susie,

You wrote: "While I agree with completely with the first part, I have a problem with women roles to listen and learn. I feel that we all should listen and learn regardless of our sex and we all should be able to have a voice IMHO. I feel that God has many ways of making his voice heard through people but I do not feel that it is completely the man’s prerogative to be that mouth piece. So perhaps you could say I am not St. Pauls biggest fan on this! This again is in my humble opinion and I would not want to offend you in anyway. The trick is to know when to keep you mouth shut, as you say – something that I am still trying to get right as I can be a little on the opinionated side at times:-)"

Yes, I understand greatly your struggle with this. I am personally still struggling with this myself.
I agree with you that "men" should not be theprimary mouth pieces". There are a lot of men these days who are just that "a mouth piece" spewing mindless drek out of their mouths and not contributing to the teachings and welfare of their congregations. They could use a lot of "listening and learning" themselves. Which is why I believe God is raising up women today to fill those gaps. But I don't think that was so much the point I was trying to make as the point about "humility".

Regarding your take on Mary of Magdalene... I completely agree that she was a Disciple of Jesus and a good one at that. Yes, she did have some understandings that some of the other Disciples did not.


Returned Warm Regards,
Kimberly

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Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 205 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:28
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 273 Milo 26-Feb-04 19:43
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Smokescreen for science and wealth? 194 ananda 02-Mar-04 15:46
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 198 Milo 02-Mar-04 19:19
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 198 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 20:24
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 200 Milo 02-Mar-04 20:58
I forgot to add... 213 Milo 02-Mar-04 21:05
Re: I forgot to add... 258 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 21:28
Superiority raises its ugly head 182 Archietype 03-Mar-04 08:12
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Re: writing 264 Archietype 04-Mar-04 18:31
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Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 228 Alatariel 04-Mar-04 00:42
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 205 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:10
Over the Rainbow... 262 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:26
Re: Over the Rainbow... 277 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:39
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 235 Lee McGiffen 04-Mar-04 09:32
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On further thought... 202 Milo 05-Mar-04 06:08
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Big Misunderstanding!!! 257 Milo 10-Mar-04 16:59
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Some more cents... 173 Anthony Taylor 09-Mar-04 19:37
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Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 146 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:23
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The Message of the Marriage of Cana 264 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 17:08
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