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I've never claimed that Gardner does drink blood. I indirectly quoted Nichloas De Vere who is saying much the same thing as Gardner is his Strarfire and the Nephilim lecture and these Nephilim are the progenators of the Grail bloodline, which the Templars were very much associated with.

I'm not responsible for the whole article. I agree it does it doesn't follow a high standard in research and that Gardner's particular quote should have been given more context but I haven't seen any proof from you that the author of that article is lying. We have free speech but we also have libel laws and if the author has overstepped the mark, it's down to Gardner and De Vere to sue but I can't see what there is to sue about and that is confirmed by the fact that neither of the two parties you claim have been injured, have sued.

I think I have succesfully shown that the "Grail" bloodline, which the Templars were associated with, indulged in rituals in which Starfire is consumed, ie, menstrual blood. Lawrence Gardner says exactly the same as Nicholas De Vere. Here is something else from the Lawrence Gardner lecture I referenced in my last post:

"Producers of Star Fire, the goddesses who held themselves in this position, for this particular function of the Kingly Line were designated the "Flow-ers". Which is exactly where our English name flower comes from. And, the flower was always the "Lily". And, the "Lily", was the key to the name of just about everybody in that line. What, actually, I asked my doctor friends, was really so special about "Star Fire"? What's so special about this food that is not used, & ends up being menstrual blood. It holds, they said, the greatest of all bodily secretions from certain glands. The pineal gland, the pituitary gland. Certain parts of our brain functions, that gives us specific levels of awareness and intellect. All of the things that the kingly line needed. What was actually happening, was that instead of them relying solely on their own glandular productions, of secretions and hormones, they were being fed with an enhancement for this. Just like we take other bodily supplements today, but they were taking them at a very, very, advanced level. Because this was not earthly stuff, this was, "Anunnaki". "Star Fire", straight from the Goddesses."

Let's try to keep the thread on topic. I have nothing to do with the overall style of the article that appeared in a well known esoteric and occult magazine. The magazine is not against the occult, it's actually promoting the occult!

Rob

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