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Hi Smetters,

As far as I can see, Lucifer simply means "light bearer". It's a latin term that can mean more or less anyone who bears light and that includes you and I! The problem arises when we try to decide if the light being shone is leading us in the right direction or not!

It was Lee who likened Lucifer to Prometheus but many have also commented that Lucifer could also refer to the Serpent that tempted Eve because the Serpent was also said to have brought Knowledge to mankind. Anyone can be a Lucifer but generally the term is given to certain principal characters in the cosmic play that we are involved in here on Earth, particularly the dynasty of Egyptian and Babylonian Kings, out of which our present rulers are said to have descended from.

You asked what the "Great Work" is. IMO, the "Great Work of the Ages" is to establish a worldwide government, coupled with a worldwide humanitarian religion based on the goals of science. In my view, this is a trap designed to imprison mankind in the world of matter with no hope of salvation because it's my belief that mankind was destined to rise above matter and be guided by the spirit, a concept that science denies.

So, what essentially we have is a Babylonian plan whose architects are endeavouring to substitute the promised Kingdom of the spirit with a virtual reality matrix designed to enslave mankind to material pursuits. These two plans, ie, God's plan and the plan of the "Lucifers", have been in contention with eachother throughout history and it will lead to the an all out final battle, commonly known as Armageddon but just before Armageddon it was foretold that there would be a great Apocalypse, which means a great revealing and this appears to be the period we are now in.

"But you, O Daniel, make secret the words, and seal up the book, until the time of the end: many shall rove about, and the true knowledge shall become abundant." (Daniel 12:4)

"And he said, go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand." (Daniel 12: 9 - 10, KJV)

"Whatever is covered up will be uncovered and every secret will be made known. Wherefore what things you say in the darkness will be heard in the light, and what you whisper in private rooms will be preached from the housetops." (Luke 12:2)

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." - Ephesians 6:12

"...the whole world lies in the power of the Evil One." - 1 John 5:19

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I quoted the above verses simply to give you an idea, one point of view, of some of the issues that are floating around. I hope you find my post informative and of some help in your own personal endeavour to make sense of some of the dramatic power plays that abound in our reality. I personally have also learned a lot from reading other peoples' contributions to this forum!

regards
Rob

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Mysticism and Knights Templars 778 Melusine 26-Feb-04 04:39
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 388 Mark Staab 26-Feb-04 05:21
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 309 Melusine 26-Feb-04 13:31
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 307 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 15:52
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 270 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:23
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 352 Dominick Ohrbeck 15-Mar-04 18:35
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 346 Milo 26-Feb-04 15:58
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 309 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:28
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 388 Milo 26-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 299 Melusine 26-Feb-04 21:06
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 309 Milo 26-Feb-04 21:13
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 403 Melusine 28-Feb-04 17:41
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 302 Milo 28-Feb-04 18:11
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 315 Melusine 28-Feb-04 18:21
Will do, thanks! n/t 317 Milo 28-Feb-04 18:29
Smokescreen for science and wealth? 293 ananda 02-Mar-04 15:46
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 299 Milo 02-Mar-04 19:19
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 304 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 20:24
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 292 Milo 02-Mar-04 20:58
I forgot to add... 317 Milo 02-Mar-04 21:05
Re: I forgot to add... 347 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 21:28
Superiority raises its ugly head 291 Archietype 03-Mar-04 08:12
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 321 Milo 03-Mar-04 15:10
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 324 Archietype 04-Mar-04 17:25
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 317 Milo 04-Mar-04 17:48
Re: writing 393 Archietype 04-Mar-04 18:31
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 308 Mark Staab 04-Mar-04 18:08
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 340 Alatariel 04-Mar-04 00:42
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 298 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:10
Over the Rainbow... 392 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:26
Re: Over the Rainbow... 367 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:39
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 340 Lee McGiffen 04-Mar-04 09:32
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 321 Melusine 04-Mar-04 09:48
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 395 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:13
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 313 Melusine 04-Mar-04 10:04
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 363 Melusine 04-Mar-04 10:07
My two cents... 337 Milo 04-Mar-04 16:16
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Re: My two cents... 249 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 13:49
Re: My two cents... 285 Melusine 04-Mar-04 21:46
Re: My two cents... 225 Milo 04-Mar-04 22:32
On further thought... 299 Milo 05-Mar-04 06:08
Re: On further thought... 348 Melusine 06-Mar-04 15:29
Re: On further thought... 298 Milo 06-Mar-04 16:55
Re: My two cents too 250 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:30
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Re: My two cents too 288 debraregypt 07-Mar-04 17:27
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Re: My two cents too 341 Melusine 09-Mar-04 07:41
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Re: My two cents too 282 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 08:56
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Re: My two cents too 339 debraregypt 10-Mar-04 01:08
Re: My two cents too 293 Milo 10-Mar-04 01:19
Re: My two cents too 336 Kboldt 10-Mar-04 15:01
Big Misunderstanding!!! 345 Milo 10-Mar-04 16:59
Re: Big Misunderstanding!!! 329 Kboldt 10-Mar-04 17:36
Some more cents... 283 Anthony Taylor 09-Mar-04 19:37
Re: Some more cents... 287 Milo 09-Mar-04 20:12
Re: Some more cents... 302 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:22
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 237 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:23
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 317 Milo 05-Mar-04 02:36
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 351 smetters 05-Mar-04 13:31
The Message of the Marriage of Cana 383 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 17:08
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 331 smetters 05-Mar-04 17:30
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 280 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 13:52
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 321 smetters 08-Mar-04 17:47
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 342 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 19:49
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 363 Alatariel 08-Mar-04 22:40
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 346 Melusine 09-Mar-04 08:20
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 373 smetters 09-Mar-04 13:27
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 319 Kboldt 09-Mar-04 13:45
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 275 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 15:02
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 368 smetters 09-Mar-04 15:31
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 304 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 15:57
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 328 smetters 09-Mar-04 16:54
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 293 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:37
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 271 Mark Staab 10-Mar-04 01:42
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 303 Melusine 11-Mar-04 01:52
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 299 Mark Staab 11-Mar-04 07:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 366 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 16:35
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 227 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:32
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 298 smetters 10-Mar-04 10:45
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 283 smetters 09-Mar-04 15:18
I for got this part... 368 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 18:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 365 Milo 05-Mar-04 18:21
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 339 Alatariel 07-Mar-04 03:16
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Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 348 Nebankh 07-Mar-04 22:30
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Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 299 ananda 04-Mar-04 13:10
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 295 smetters 04-Mar-04 13:34
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 353 ananda 02-Mar-04 23:14
Feudalism is still with us, thanks to the secret socieites 347 Milo 02-Mar-04 23:40
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Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 377 ananda 03-Mar-04 03:36
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Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 296 Alatariel 04-Mar-04 00:52
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 338 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:57
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The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 1072 Milo 07-Mar-04 22:30
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