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Dear Melusine


Sorry I am a little new to the site so if I say anything out of turn or put my comments in the wrong part of the thread then please bear with me. Also my spelling is appalling so I apologize in advance! I am afraid that my comments won't be on a mystical nature either although I think that side of it is fascinating too.

I have read quite a few books on subjects that get interwoven with the Templars including the role of women, the Magdalene Cult, Isis cults, Prieure de Sion, Rennes Le Chateau etc etc. I am no expert though. I would like to say though that I am not taking this from a religious point of view nor I am saying that these are completely my opinions. The information out there is way too fuzzy for me to start stating things like they are given facts!

I have not come across the Daughters of God before although I am not surprised that such an organisation existed. Thank you for directing me to them. The Templars were a fascinating lot and there are lots of hints that women were more important than it seems at first glance. I need to quickly expand that with some general history if you don’t mind.

The role of women has always played an important if understated part in English history which, of course, (English history that is) is not the be all and end all. English history has been somewhat clouded by Victorian values which was a reaction to the Regency period that preceded it. The latter being a rather risqué time of Lord “mad bad and dangerous to know” Byron and his many open affairs. The reason why I brought this up is that the traditional view of women in the middle ages is one of submissive pawns in a power game which is not wholly accurate. Two examples to counter this spring to mind; Richard II of England made a court lady (sorry can’t remember her name) a Duchess in her own right and then of course there is Eleanor of Aquitaine. She went on the 2nd Crusade, ruled her sons, Richard the Lionheart and John (Magna Carta) with an iron fist and led a rebellion against her husband Henry II of England. She also came from a court in France that was positively trend setting. Her father blazed the trail for the fashion of Courtly Love and troubadours where women were put on a pedestal and worshiped from afar (how nice….). Incidentally the Grail stories began to flourish at about the same time.

Back to the Templars – If one goes with the theory (and there are many variations on this theme) that they were the physical arm of Prieure de Sion; that they believed/believe that Jesus was married to Mary and had a daughter who grew up in what is now France; she, in turn, started a line of kings (of whom some people argue Eleanor’s father was one descendent) whose blood line is still alive and well, then the role of women for those “in the know” was vital. I know that this smacks of The Da Vinci Code and the Holy Blood and the Holy Grail but if (and only if) they are right in some of their theories then a similar female order in “sister hood” to the Templars is not all that surprising. Admittedly the article in question is more about the spiritualism and symbols of the Orders and the link between the two seems to be suggested rather than definite. However, it does fit in with in with the importance of women and the role they played in these theories.

Okay that’s it for my little spiel, thanks for reading and I am now ducking for cover.

Smetters

P.S. Don’t get me started on the Freemasons!

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Mysticism and Knights Templars 549 Melusine 26-Feb-04 04:39
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 294 Mark Staab 26-Feb-04 05:21
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 229 Melusine 26-Feb-04 13:31
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 229 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 15:52
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 175 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:23
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 267 Dominick Ohrbeck 15-Mar-04 18:35
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 263 Milo 26-Feb-04 15:58
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 223 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:28
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 289 Milo 26-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 220 Melusine 26-Feb-04 21:06
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 231 Milo 26-Feb-04 21:13
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 331 Melusine 28-Feb-04 17:41
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 212 Milo 28-Feb-04 18:11
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 224 Melusine 28-Feb-04 18:21
Will do, thanks! n/t 237 Milo 28-Feb-04 18:29
Smokescreen for science and wealth? 214 ananda 02-Mar-04 15:46
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 212 Milo 02-Mar-04 19:19
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 226 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 20:24
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 210 Milo 02-Mar-04 20:58
I forgot to add... 223 Milo 02-Mar-04 21:05
Re: I forgot to add... 271 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 21:28
Superiority raises its ugly head 197 Archietype 03-Mar-04 08:12
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 233 Milo 03-Mar-04 15:10
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 249 Archietype 04-Mar-04 17:25
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 233 Milo 04-Mar-04 17:48
Re: writing 296 Archietype 04-Mar-04 18:31
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 230 Mark Staab 04-Mar-04 18:08
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 255 Alatariel 04-Mar-04 00:42
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 218 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:10
Over the Rainbow... 286 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:26
Re: Over the Rainbow... 292 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:39
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 249 Lee McGiffen 04-Mar-04 09:32
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 236 Melusine 04-Mar-04 09:48
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 297 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:13
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 229 Melusine 04-Mar-04 10:04
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 289 Melusine 04-Mar-04 10:07
My two cents... 258 Milo 04-Mar-04 16:16
Re: My two cents... 232 Kboldt 04-Mar-04 18:09
Re: My two cents... 169 Milo 04-Mar-04 19:23
Re: My two cents... 196 Kboldt 04-Mar-04 19:32
Re: My two cents... 281 Milo 04-Mar-04 20:30
Re: My two cents... 266 Melusine 05-Mar-04 09:30
Re: My two cents... 167 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 13:49
Re: My two cents... 205 Melusine 04-Mar-04 21:46
Re: My two cents... 149 Milo 04-Mar-04 22:32
On further thought... 217 Milo 05-Mar-04 06:08
Re: On further thought... 272 Melusine 06-Mar-04 15:29
Re: On further thought... 219 Milo 06-Mar-04 16:55
Re: My two cents too 178 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:30
Re: My two cents too 207 Milo 05-Mar-04 02:09
Re: My two cents too 204 debraregypt 07-Mar-04 17:27
Re: My two cents too 188 Milo 07-Mar-04 18:31
Re: My two cents too 266 Melusine 09-Mar-04 07:41
Re: My two cents too 251 Milo 09-Mar-04 08:07
Re: My two cents too 206 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 08:56
Re: My two cents too 222 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:13
Re: My two cents too 251 debraregypt 10-Mar-04 01:08
Re: My two cents too 214 Milo 10-Mar-04 01:19
Re: My two cents too 258 Kboldt 10-Mar-04 15:01
Big Misunderstanding!!! 273 Milo 10-Mar-04 16:59
Re: Big Misunderstanding!!! 245 Kboldt 10-Mar-04 17:36
Some more cents... 191 Anthony Taylor 09-Mar-04 19:37
Re: Some more cents... 208 Milo 09-Mar-04 20:12
Re: Some more cents... 218 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:22
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 159 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:23
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 235 Milo 05-Mar-04 02:36
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 272 smetters 05-Mar-04 13:31
The Message of the Marriage of Cana 280 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 17:08
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 247 smetters 05-Mar-04 17:30
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 201 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 13:52
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 237 smetters 08-Mar-04 17:47
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 260 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 19:49
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 290 Alatariel 08-Mar-04 22:40
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 268 Melusine 09-Mar-04 08:20
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 284 smetters 09-Mar-04 13:27
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 232 Kboldt 09-Mar-04 13:45
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 175 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 15:02
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 288 smetters 09-Mar-04 15:31
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 233 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 15:57
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 255 smetters 09-Mar-04 16:54
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 208 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:37
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 186 Mark Staab 10-Mar-04 01:42
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 226 Melusine 11-Mar-04 01:52
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 220 Mark Staab 11-Mar-04 07:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 262 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 16:35
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 146 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:32
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 222 smetters 10-Mar-04 10:45
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 197 smetters 09-Mar-04 15:18
I for got this part... 274 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 18:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 270 Milo 05-Mar-04 18:21
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 240 Alatariel 07-Mar-04 03:16
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 327 Milo 07-Mar-04 04:13
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 192 David L 07-Mar-04 05:30
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Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 205 David L 07-Mar-04 05:48
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 202 Milo 07-Mar-04 06:20
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 269 Melusine 11-Mar-04 02:05
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 190 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 14:53
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 248 Milo 08-Mar-04 16:16
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 274 Alatariel 07-Mar-04 15:58
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 235 David L 07-Mar-04 05:36
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 292 Melusine 11-Mar-04 02:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 271 Nebankh 07-Mar-04 22:30
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 223 Melusine 11-Mar-04 04:00
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 208 ananda 04-Mar-04 13:10
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 210 smetters 04-Mar-04 13:34
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 275 ananda 02-Mar-04 23:14
Feudalism is still with us, thanks to the secret socieites 273 Milo 02-Mar-04 23:40
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 213 Melusine 03-Mar-04 03:01
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 292 ananda 03-Mar-04 03:36
The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 268 Milo 03-Mar-04 04:25
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 184 Melusine 03-Mar-04 11:50
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 249 Milo 03-Mar-04 15:21
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 210 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:46
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 257 Milo 04-Mar-04 02:03
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 268 Melusine 04-Mar-04 09:52
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 259 Milo 04-Mar-04 16:45
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 201 Melusine 04-Mar-04 19:54
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 191 Milo 04-Mar-04 20:28
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 214 smetters 03-Mar-04 20:49
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 218 Alatariel 04-Mar-04 00:52
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 257 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:57
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 192 Alatariel 08-Mar-04 00:03
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 265 Melusine 09-Mar-04 08:00
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 264 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:37
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 299 smetters 04-Mar-04 13:45
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 261 Melusine 04-Mar-04 16:08
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 218 smetters 04-Mar-04 18:34
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Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 244 Melusine 04-Mar-04 19:45
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Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 197 ArmchairObserver 05-Mar-04 09:28
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Templar Cross at Temple of Karnak, Egypt 189 fisherman 15-Mar-04 23:50
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