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Dear Melusine


Sorry I am a little new to the site so if I say anything out of turn or put my comments in the wrong part of the thread then please bear with me. Also my spelling is appalling so I apologize in advance! I am afraid that my comments won't be on a mystical nature either although I think that side of it is fascinating too.

I have read quite a few books on subjects that get interwoven with the Templars including the role of women, the Magdalene Cult, Isis cults, Prieure de Sion, Rennes Le Chateau etc etc. I am no expert though. I would like to say though that I am not taking this from a religious point of view nor I am saying that these are completely my opinions. The information out there is way too fuzzy for me to start stating things like they are given facts!

I have not come across the Daughters of God before although I am not surprised that such an organisation existed. Thank you for directing me to them. The Templars were a fascinating lot and there are lots of hints that women were more important than it seems at first glance. I need to quickly expand that with some general history if you don’t mind.

The role of women has always played an important if understated part in English history which, of course, (English history that is) is not the be all and end all. English history has been somewhat clouded by Victorian values which was a reaction to the Regency period that preceded it. The latter being a rather risqué time of Lord “mad bad and dangerous to know” Byron and his many open affairs. The reason why I brought this up is that the traditional view of women in the middle ages is one of submissive pawns in a power game which is not wholly accurate. Two examples to counter this spring to mind; Richard II of England made a court lady (sorry can’t remember her name) a Duchess in her own right and then of course there is Eleanor of Aquitaine. She went on the 2nd Crusade, ruled her sons, Richard the Lionheart and John (Magna Carta) with an iron fist and led a rebellion against her husband Henry II of England. She also came from a court in France that was positively trend setting. Her father blazed the trail for the fashion of Courtly Love and troubadours where women were put on a pedestal and worshiped from afar (how nice….). Incidentally the Grail stories began to flourish at about the same time.

Back to the Templars – If one goes with the theory (and there are many variations on this theme) that they were the physical arm of Prieure de Sion; that they believed/believe that Jesus was married to Mary and had a daughter who grew up in what is now France; she, in turn, started a line of kings (of whom some people argue Eleanor’s father was one descendent) whose blood line is still alive and well, then the role of women for those “in the know” was vital. I know that this smacks of The Da Vinci Code and the Holy Blood and the Holy Grail but if (and only if) they are right in some of their theories then a similar female order in “sister hood” to the Templars is not all that surprising. Admittedly the article in question is more about the spiritualism and symbols of the Orders and the link between the two seems to be suggested rather than definite. However, it does fit in with in with the importance of women and the role they played in these theories.

Okay that’s it for my little spiel, thanks for reading and I am now ducking for cover.

Smetters

P.S. Don’t get me started on the Freemasons!

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Mysticism and Knights Templars 506 Melusine 26-Feb-04 04:39
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 267 Mark Staab 26-Feb-04 05:21
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 211 Melusine 26-Feb-04 13:31
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 215 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 15:52
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 159 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:23
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 246 Dominick Ohrbeck 15-Mar-04 18:35
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 229 Milo 26-Feb-04 15:58
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 203 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:28
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 267 Milo 26-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 198 Melusine 26-Feb-04 21:06
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 213 Milo 26-Feb-04 21:13
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 313 Melusine 28-Feb-04 17:41
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 194 Milo 28-Feb-04 18:11
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 202 Melusine 28-Feb-04 18:21
Will do, thanks! n/t 221 Milo 28-Feb-04 18:29
Smokescreen for science and wealth? 191 ananda 02-Mar-04 15:46
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 196 Milo 02-Mar-04 19:19
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 197 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 20:24
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 196 Milo 02-Mar-04 20:58
I forgot to add... 209 Milo 02-Mar-04 21:05
Re: I forgot to add... 254 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 21:28
Superiority raises its ugly head 178 Archietype 03-Mar-04 08:12
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 214 Milo 03-Mar-04 15:10
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 232 Archietype 04-Mar-04 17:25
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 215 Milo 04-Mar-04 17:48
Re: writing 257 Archietype 04-Mar-04 18:31
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 205 Mark Staab 04-Mar-04 18:08
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 226 Alatariel 04-Mar-04 00:42
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 200 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:10
Over the Rainbow... 260 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:26
Re: Over the Rainbow... 273 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:39
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 226 Lee McGiffen 04-Mar-04 09:32
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 223 Melusine 04-Mar-04 09:48
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 268 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:13
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 211 Melusine 04-Mar-04 10:04
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 272 Melusine 04-Mar-04 10:07
My two cents... 243 Milo 04-Mar-04 16:16
Re: My two cents... 216 Kboldt 04-Mar-04 18:09
Re: My two cents... 148 Milo 04-Mar-04 19:23
Re: My two cents... 186 Kboldt 04-Mar-04 19:32
Re: My two cents... 268 Milo 04-Mar-04 20:30
Re: My two cents... 239 Melusine 05-Mar-04 09:30
Re: My two cents... 149 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 13:49
Re: My two cents... 192 Melusine 04-Mar-04 21:46
Re: My two cents... 134 Milo 04-Mar-04 22:32
On further thought... 199 Milo 05-Mar-04 06:08
Re: On further thought... 246 Melusine 06-Mar-04 15:29
Re: On further thought... 198 Milo 06-Mar-04 16:55
Re: My two cents too 166 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:30
Re: My two cents too 191 Milo 05-Mar-04 02:09
Re: My two cents too 183 debraregypt 07-Mar-04 17:27
Re: My two cents too 171 Milo 07-Mar-04 18:31
Re: My two cents too 239 Melusine 09-Mar-04 07:41
Re: My two cents too 233 Milo 09-Mar-04 08:07
Re: My two cents too 189 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 08:56
Re: My two cents too 210 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:13
Re: My two cents too 229 debraregypt 10-Mar-04 01:08
Re: My two cents too 195 Milo 10-Mar-04 01:19
Re: My two cents too 242 Kboldt 10-Mar-04 15:01
Big Misunderstanding!!! 254 Milo 10-Mar-04 16:59
Re: Big Misunderstanding!!! 226 Kboldt 10-Mar-04 17:36
Some more cents... 168 Anthony Taylor 09-Mar-04 19:37
Re: Some more cents... 193 Milo 09-Mar-04 20:12
Re: Some more cents... 192 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:22
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 145 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:23
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 218 Milo 05-Mar-04 02:36
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 252 smetters 05-Mar-04 13:31
The Message of the Marriage of Cana 263 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 17:08
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 219 smetters 05-Mar-04 17:30
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 183 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 13:52
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 223 smetters 08-Mar-04 17:47
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 241 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 19:49
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 264 Alatariel 08-Mar-04 22:40
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 245 Melusine 09-Mar-04 08:20
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 267 smetters 09-Mar-04 13:27
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 205 Kboldt 09-Mar-04 13:45
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 146 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 15:02
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 272 smetters 09-Mar-04 15:31
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 212 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 15:57
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 242 smetters 09-Mar-04 16:54
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 195 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:37
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 170 Mark Staab 10-Mar-04 01:42
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 210 Melusine 11-Mar-04 01:52
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 201 Mark Staab 11-Mar-04 07:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 244 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 16:35
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 130 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:32
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 191 smetters 10-Mar-04 10:45
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 167 smetters 09-Mar-04 15:18
I for got this part... 252 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 18:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 251 Milo 05-Mar-04 18:21
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 223 Alatariel 07-Mar-04 03:16
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 315 Milo 07-Mar-04 04:13
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 170 David L 07-Mar-04 05:30
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Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 181 David L 07-Mar-04 05:48
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 182 Milo 07-Mar-04 06:20
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 249 Melusine 11-Mar-04 02:05
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 176 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 14:53
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 222 Milo 08-Mar-04 16:16
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 246 Alatariel 07-Mar-04 15:58
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 202 David L 07-Mar-04 05:36
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 257 Melusine 11-Mar-04 02:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 254 Nebankh 07-Mar-04 22:30
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 208 Melusine 11-Mar-04 04:00
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 191 ananda 04-Mar-04 13:10
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 187 smetters 04-Mar-04 13:34
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 254 ananda 02-Mar-04 23:14
Feudalism is still with us, thanks to the secret socieites 246 Milo 02-Mar-04 23:40
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 193 Melusine 03-Mar-04 03:01
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 269 ananda 03-Mar-04 03:36
The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 247 Milo 03-Mar-04 04:25
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 169 Melusine 03-Mar-04 11:50
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 227 Milo 03-Mar-04 15:21
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 191 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:46
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 240 Milo 04-Mar-04 02:03
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 246 Melusine 04-Mar-04 09:52
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 247 Milo 04-Mar-04 16:45
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 187 Melusine 04-Mar-04 19:54
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 173 Milo 04-Mar-04 20:28
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 181 smetters 03-Mar-04 20:49
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 192 Alatariel 04-Mar-04 00:52
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 237 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:57
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 172 Alatariel 08-Mar-04 00:03
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 250 Melusine 09-Mar-04 08:00
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 241 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:37
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 269 smetters 04-Mar-04 13:45
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 245 Melusine 04-Mar-04 16:08
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Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 224 Melusine 04-Mar-04 19:45
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The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 604 Milo 07-Mar-04 22:30
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Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 181 smetters 08-Mar-04 18:12
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Templar Cross at Temple of Karnak, Egypt 170 fisherman 15-Mar-04 23:50
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