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Hi Ananda,

Seem we have read both a lot and it may be very confusing at times.
I wouldn't use the word "overlap" in the case you mention I prefer
"interconnectedness". From this perspective everything and everyone
is interconnected.
As for the Templars there is the real deal and there are offshoots of freemasons who use the title a bit too freely. As a real truth seeker I am interested only in the real deal not the copycat.

As David Lamont kindly provided the link of the true Rosicrucian Order,
I will just mention again the link I provided to Milo above
which to me is the real deal and speak of the female orders as well :
[www.northernway.org]

This is not the link I mentionned at the top of my thread which is a link of a personal website. :This link is a link of the Templar order.

By the way I saw you mentionning in a post that you think people don't need anymore these alchemical secrets......etc....
I can see that if you take things literally alchemy being transmutation of metals you can't figure the finality of the process.
In this case "alchemy" is an allegory for a several phases spiritual awakening.....and IMHO we need today more than ever this kind of
spirituality in the positive sense of emcompassing the goodness and love of all by being compassionate towards all our brothers and sisters and we can do that only if we begin by changing our way of thinking.
The reason these things were kept secrets is because "knowledge is power" and "power" in the hands of non prepared or unworthy is very dangerous. Power comes with a higher sense of responsability and you have to earn it. The misuse of power can be well illustrated in "black magic" in opposition of "white magic" which is used to help people and heal them not to control them. So if you really want to separate the wheat from the chaff you need a lot of discernement in your readings and it is not easy that is why I try to refrain to reach conclusions too quickly.
Just my 2 cents and good luck in your search for the truth.
When you find it you get a sense of pure joy and you know you are home.
That is all I wish for you.
Cheers,
Magdalen

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Mysticism and Knights Templars 502 Melusine 26-Feb-04 04:39
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 266 Mark Staab 26-Feb-04 05:21
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 209 Melusine 26-Feb-04 13:31
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 213 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 15:52
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 157 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:23
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 246 Dominick Ohrbeck 15-Mar-04 18:35
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 227 Milo 26-Feb-04 15:58
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 201 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:28
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 265 Milo 26-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 195 Melusine 26-Feb-04 21:06
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 209 Milo 26-Feb-04 21:13
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 313 Melusine 28-Feb-04 17:41
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 192 Milo 28-Feb-04 18:11
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 200 Melusine 28-Feb-04 18:21
Will do, thanks! n/t 219 Milo 28-Feb-04 18:29
Smokescreen for science and wealth? 191 ananda 02-Mar-04 15:46
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 194 Milo 02-Mar-04 19:19
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 196 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 20:24
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 196 Milo 02-Mar-04 20:58
I forgot to add... 209 Milo 02-Mar-04 21:05
Re: I forgot to add... 252 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 21:28
Superiority raises its ugly head 177 Archietype 03-Mar-04 08:12
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 211 Milo 03-Mar-04 15:10
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 230 Archietype 04-Mar-04 17:25
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 214 Milo 04-Mar-04 17:48
Re: writing 256 Archietype 04-Mar-04 18:31
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 203 Mark Staab 04-Mar-04 18:08
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 224 Alatariel 04-Mar-04 00:42
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 198 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:10
Over the Rainbow... 257 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:26
Re: Over the Rainbow... 272 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:39
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 225 Lee McGiffen 04-Mar-04 09:32
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 221 Melusine 04-Mar-04 09:48
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 266 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:13
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 210 Melusine 04-Mar-04 10:04
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 269 Melusine 04-Mar-04 10:07
My two cents... 241 Milo 04-Mar-04 16:16
Re: My two cents... 214 Kboldt 04-Mar-04 18:09
Re: My two cents... 147 Milo 04-Mar-04 19:23
Re: My two cents... 183 Kboldt 04-Mar-04 19:32
Re: My two cents... 265 Milo 04-Mar-04 20:30
Re: My two cents... 237 Melusine 05-Mar-04 09:30
Re: My two cents... 147 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 13:49
Re: My two cents... 189 Melusine 04-Mar-04 21:46
Re: My two cents... 134 Milo 04-Mar-04 22:32
On further thought... 196 Milo 05-Mar-04 06:08
Re: On further thought... 244 Melusine 06-Mar-04 15:29
Re: On further thought... 197 Milo 06-Mar-04 16:55
Re: My two cents too 164 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:30
Re: My two cents too 190 Milo 05-Mar-04 02:09
Re: My two cents too 181 debraregypt 07-Mar-04 17:27
Re: My two cents too 169 Milo 07-Mar-04 18:31
Re: My two cents too 238 Melusine 09-Mar-04 07:41
Re: My two cents too 231 Milo 09-Mar-04 08:07
Re: My two cents too 187 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 08:56
Re: My two cents too 208 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:13
Re: My two cents too 226 debraregypt 10-Mar-04 01:08
Re: My two cents too 192 Milo 10-Mar-04 01:19
Re: My two cents too 240 Kboldt 10-Mar-04 15:01
Big Misunderstanding!!! 252 Milo 10-Mar-04 16:59
Re: Big Misunderstanding!!! 224 Kboldt 10-Mar-04 17:36
Some more cents... 166 Anthony Taylor 09-Mar-04 19:37
Re: Some more cents... 191 Milo 09-Mar-04 20:12
Re: Some more cents... 191 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:22
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 143 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:23
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 216 Milo 05-Mar-04 02:36
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 251 smetters 05-Mar-04 13:31
The Message of the Marriage of Cana 261 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 17:08
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 215 smetters 05-Mar-04 17:30
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 180 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 13:52
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 221 smetters 08-Mar-04 17:47
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 239 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 19:49
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 260 Alatariel 08-Mar-04 22:40
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 243 Melusine 09-Mar-04 08:20
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 266 smetters 09-Mar-04 13:27
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 202 Kboldt 09-Mar-04 13:45
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 141 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 15:02
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 271 smetters 09-Mar-04 15:31
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 209 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 15:57
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 240 smetters 09-Mar-04 16:54
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 193 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:37
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 168 Mark Staab 10-Mar-04 01:42
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 208 Melusine 11-Mar-04 01:52
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 197 Mark Staab 11-Mar-04 07:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 243 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 16:35
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 129 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:32
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 189 smetters 10-Mar-04 10:45
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 165 smetters 09-Mar-04 15:18
I for got this part... 250 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 18:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 250 Milo 05-Mar-04 18:21
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 221 Alatariel 07-Mar-04 03:16
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 313 Milo 07-Mar-04 04:13
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 168 David L 07-Mar-04 05:30
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 188 Milo 07-Mar-04 05:35
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 181 David L 07-Mar-04 05:48
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 180 Milo 07-Mar-04 06:20
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 247 Melusine 11-Mar-04 02:05
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 175 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 14:53
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 220 Milo 08-Mar-04 16:16
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 245 Alatariel 07-Mar-04 15:58
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 200 David L 07-Mar-04 05:36
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 255 Melusine 11-Mar-04 02:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 252 Nebankh 07-Mar-04 22:30
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 206 Melusine 11-Mar-04 04:00
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 188 ananda 04-Mar-04 13:10
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 185 smetters 04-Mar-04 13:34
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 253 ananda 02-Mar-04 23:14
Feudalism is still with us, thanks to the secret socieites 244 Milo 02-Mar-04 23:40
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 192 Melusine 03-Mar-04 03:01
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 268 ananda 03-Mar-04 03:36
The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 243 Milo 03-Mar-04 04:25
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 168 Melusine 03-Mar-04 11:50
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 226 Milo 03-Mar-04 15:21
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 189 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:46
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 239 Milo 04-Mar-04 02:03
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 242 Melusine 04-Mar-04 09:52
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 246 Milo 04-Mar-04 16:45
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 186 Melusine 04-Mar-04 19:54
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 170 Milo 04-Mar-04 20:28
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 179 smetters 03-Mar-04 20:49
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 191 Alatariel 04-Mar-04 00:52
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 235 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:57
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 170 Alatariel 08-Mar-04 00:03
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 249 Melusine 09-Mar-04 08:00
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 240 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:37
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 268 smetters 04-Mar-04 13:45
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 243 Melusine 04-Mar-04 16:08
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 200 smetters 04-Mar-04 18:34
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 186 ananda 04-Mar-04 18:47
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 224 Melusine 04-Mar-04 19:45
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 197 Melusine 05-Mar-04 10:07
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 258 smetters 05-Mar-04 12:46
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 184 Melusine 05-Mar-04 16:09
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 218 smetters 05-Mar-04 16:35
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 155 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 00:58
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 173 ArmchairObserver 05-Mar-04 09:28
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 215 Milo 04-Mar-04 17:01
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 169 smetters 04-Mar-04 19:00
Lucifer and the Great Work 180 Milo 04-Mar-04 20:16
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 141 Anne-Marie 05-Mar-04 07:01
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 198 Melusine 05-Mar-04 19:41
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 224 Milo 06-Mar-04 02:07
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 247 ArmchairObserver 06-Mar-04 09:13
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 212 Milo 06-Mar-04 17:02
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 167 ArmchairObserver 06-Mar-04 18:33
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 162 Milo 06-Mar-04 19:40
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 226 Anne-Marie 07-Mar-04 00:09
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 167 Milo 07-Mar-04 01:14
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 220 Anne-Marie 07-Mar-04 07:22
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 222 Milo 07-Mar-04 09:02
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 222 Melusine 11-Mar-04 03:53
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 220 Milo 11-Mar-04 05:43
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 157 ArmchairObserver 07-Mar-04 03:19
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 221 Milo 07-Mar-04 04:07
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 179 ArmchairObserver 07-Mar-04 06:27
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 268 Milo 07-Mar-04 09:51
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 164 ArmchairObserver 07-Mar-04 21:10
The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 598 Milo 07-Mar-04 22:30
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 186 ArmchairObserver 08-Mar-04 03:28
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 195 Milo 08-Mar-04 04:12
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 269 ArmchairObserver 08-Mar-04 05:10
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 211 Milo 08-Mar-04 05:29
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 174 Alatariel 08-Mar-04 12:40
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 191 Milo 08-Mar-04 16:21
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 228 ArmchairObserver 08-Mar-04 16:32
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 151 Mark Staab 08-Mar-04 20:31
PPS 177 Mark Staab 08-Mar-04 20:38
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 180 smetters 08-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 247 ArmchairObserver 08-Mar-04 20:04
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 183 smetters 09-Mar-04 12:23
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 183 ArmchairObserver 09-Mar-04 19:57
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 230 smetters 10-Mar-04 17:41
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 199 ArmchairObserver 10-Mar-04 18:36
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 201 smetters 11-Mar-04 13:03
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 224 ArmchairObserver 11-Mar-04 18:57
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 241 smetters 12-Mar-04 12:15
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 179 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:54
Re: Left-Handed and Red Hair 250 Kboldt 09-Mar-04 23:00
Re: Left-Handed and Red Hair 278 ArmchairObserver 10-Mar-04 06:54
Re: Left-Handed and Red Hair 188 Briffits 10-Mar-04 08:21
Re: Left-Handed and Red Hair 163 ArmchairObserver 10-Mar-04 18:38
Re: Left-Handed and Red Hair 206 Artificer 10-Mar-04 23:35
Re: Left-Handed and Red Hair 175 smetters 11-Mar-04 12:50
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 235 ArmchairObserver 10-Mar-04 07:15
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 174 Melusine 11-Mar-04 02:36
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 179 ArmchairObserver 11-Mar-04 05:13
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 223 Milo 11-Mar-04 05:50
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 227 ArmchairObserver 11-Mar-04 21:43
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 211 Milo 12-Mar-04 01:13
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 192 ArmchairObserver 12-Mar-04 04:56
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 170 Melusine 06-Mar-04 14:45
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 220 Milo 06-Mar-04 17:04
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 208 Melusine 06-Mar-04 19:16
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 186 Milo 06-Mar-04 20:14
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 147 Melusine 06-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 171 Milo 06-Mar-04 21:01
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 218 smetters 05-Mar-04 13:25
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 243 Milo 05-Mar-04 18:18
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 148 smetters 08-Mar-04 17:54
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 173 Milo 08-Mar-04 22:35
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 201 smetters 09-Mar-04 12:28
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 197 Melusine 05-Mar-04 20:11
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 185 Alatariel 07-Mar-04 03:54
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 174 David L 07-Mar-04 04:59
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Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 148 David L 07-Mar-04 05:09
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Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 197 smetters 08-Mar-04 13:50
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 211 Milo 08-Mar-04 16:25
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 178 Milo 08-Mar-04 16:27
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 241 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 16:31
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 223 smetters 08-Mar-04 17:29
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 236 smetters 08-Mar-04 17:56
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 181 David L 07-Mar-04 04:07
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 228 Milo 07-Mar-04 04:22
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 167 David L 07-Mar-04 04:52
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Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 217 David L 07-Mar-04 05:07
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 201 Milo 07-Mar-04 05:18
Mod comment 159 ArmchairObserver 07-Mar-04 06:57
Re: Mod comment 191 Milo 07-Mar-04 09:55
Re: Mod comment 262 ArmchairObserver 07-Mar-04 18:24
Re: Mod comment 270 Milo 07-Mar-04 18:44
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 167 smetters 08-Mar-04 13:31
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 197 David L 08-Mar-04 15:16
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 178 smetters 08-Mar-04 17:00
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 155 David L 07-Mar-04 04:34
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 228 Milo 07-Mar-04 04:58
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 185 David L 07-Mar-04 05:03
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 188 Milo 07-Mar-04 05:11
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 177 Melusine 11-Mar-04 03:57
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 165 Milo 11-Mar-04 06:08
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 218 Melusine 15-Mar-04 23:44
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 170 Milo 16-Mar-04 00:10
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Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 253 Melusine 17-Mar-04 03:00
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Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 214 Melusine 17-Mar-04 23:15
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 204 Milo 17-Mar-04 23:59
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 404 Joyeuse 18-Mar-04 00:38
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 187 Dominick Ohrbeck 12-Mar-04 07:38
Templar Cross at Temple of Karnak, Egypt 170 fisherman 15-Mar-04 23:50
fixed link 174 Dominick Ohrbeck 12-Mar-04 18:09
Re: fixed link 186 Melusine 15-Mar-04 23:31
Re: fixed link 179 Dominick Ohrbeck 16-Mar-04 01:47
Re: fixed link 211 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 18:00


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