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John 2:1 "And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there: And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage. And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come. His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it. And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece. Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim. And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it. When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew;) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom, And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now. This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him."

The Epiphany is a feast of the Christian calender celebrated on January 6. The word comes from the Greek and means "manifestation," "appearance," or "revelation." The observance originated in the Eastern church, and at first celebrated the total revelation of God in Christ. Later it focused upon two events of Jesus' ministry, his baptism (Mark 1:9-11) and the changing of the water into wine at Cana of Galilee (John 2:1-12). Interestingly, a similar festival of Dionysus, the wine god, was kept on this day in the Aegean Islands and Anatolia. When the observance of January 6 spread to the West, it became associated with the visit of the Magi to the infant Jesus (Matthew 2:1-12), an event that in the West originally formed part of the Christmas observance (Grollier).

The date the Church celebrates the feast of the miracle of Cana is 6 January, the feast of the Epiphany. Epiphania means "appearance" in Greek and refers to the revelation of the Lord's power. In pagan antiquity 6 January was the day celebrating the revelation of a different divine power and wine miracles performed by a different god: It was the feast of Dionysus, the Greek god of wine: In fact the motif of the story, the transformation of water into wine, is a typical motif of the Dionysus legend, in which this miracle serves to highlight the god's epiphany. And hence it is timed to coincide with the date of the feast of Dionysus, from January 5 th to 6 th. In the ancient Church this affinity was still understood, when . the 6 th of January was taken to be the day that the marriage feast was celebrated at Cana. . Plainly put, in the legend of the marriage at Cana Jesus reveals his divine power in the same way that stories had told of the Greek god Dionysus (Ranke-Heinmann 1992 81).

The 6th of January became for Christians the feast of the power revelation (epiphany) of their God, thereby displacing the feast of Dionysus's epiphany. As Bultmann says, "No doubt the story [of the marriage feast at Cana] has been borrowed from pagan legends and transferred to Jesus". On his feast day, Dionysus made empty jars fill up with wine in his temple in Elis; and on the island of Andros, wine flowed instead of water from a spring or in his temple. Accordingly, the true miracle of the marriage feast at Cana would not be the transformation by Jesus of water into wine, but the transformation of Jesus into a sort of Christian wine god (Ranke-Heinmann 1992 81). In fact the 'water into wine' is also stated to be one of the first of the many bizarre miracles of Dionysus (Briffault 3 130).
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Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 871 ananda 23-Feb-04 02:51
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 312 Milo 23-Feb-04 04:18
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 274 ananda 23-Feb-04 04:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 240 Milo 23-Feb-04 05:12
Mod Comment to you two 243 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 14:42
Re: Mod Comment to you two 249 Milo 23-Feb-04 15:00
Fallen Angels & Co. 261 Nejc 23-Feb-04 15:09
Re: Fallen Angels & Co. 263 Milo 23-Feb-04 15:18
Yes .. ups.. sorry..n/t 257 Nejc 23-Feb-04 15:27
it's me - lol 294 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 16:19
Re: it's me - lol 289 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:21
No probs n/t 285 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 16:30
Re: Divine Beings 279 Nebankh 23-Feb-04 16:47
Re: Divine Beings 274 Milo 23-Feb-04 17:17
Divine Agreement to Differ 282 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 17:58
Re: Divine Agreement to Differ 291 Milo 23-Feb-04 18:22
Believers and Researchers 310 Nejc 23-Feb-04 18:48
I am not a blind believer but a researcher 289 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:01
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 291 Nejc 23-Feb-04 19:15
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 278 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:19
Oh. Thanks for this one :) n/t 282 Nejc 23-Feb-04 19:22
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 237 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:21
On the other hand... 306 Nejc 23-Feb-04 20:21
Re: On the other hand... 279 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:39
Re: Divine Beings 317 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 19:00
Re: Divine Beings 254 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:09
Re: Divine Beings 311 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 19:24
Re: Divine Beings 264 David L 23-Feb-04 22:42
Is there another site for serious discussion? 299 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 285 Paul Mallon 24-Feb-04 18:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 269 Milo 24-Feb-04 19:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 254 David L 25-Feb-04 01:48
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 248 Milo 25-Feb-04 02:14
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 263 David L 25-Feb-04 03:03
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 244 Milo 25-Feb-04 06:37
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 257 David L 25-Feb-04 16:30
No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 262 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:18
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 259 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:47
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 266 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:54
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 260 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:58
Re: Cana 265 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:30
Re: Cana - missed off a bit! 255 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Cana - missed off a bit! 258 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:05
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 229 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:57
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 282 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:36
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 293 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 10:19
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 254 ananda 26-Feb-04 16:01
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 281 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:14
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 285 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:23
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 297 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:27
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 278 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:58
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 242 Milo 26-Feb-04 17:01
Augustinian vs. Gnostic (and even Pelagian) 270 ananda 26-Feb-04 17:30
Re: Augustinian vs. Gnostic (and even Pelagian) 268 Milo 26-Feb-04 17:43
In Addition.... 245 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 18:50
Point was missed 234 ananda 26-Feb-04 18:58
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 256 ArmchairObserver 25-Feb-04 18:45
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 241 Zosimos 25-Feb-04 18:53
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 254 ArmchairObserver 25-Feb-04 19:02
I misread the quoted passage... 242 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:28
Re: I misread the quoted passage... 292 David L 25-Feb-04 23:20
Re: I misread the quoted passage... 247 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:31
One more thing... 275 David L 25-Feb-04 23:25
Re: One more thing... 274 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:32
Also... 269 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:41
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 269 David L 25-Feb-04 23:08
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 263 Thirdwave 25-Feb-04 23:33
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 282 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:36
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 260 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 256 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:37
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 276 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:53
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 253 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:58
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 279 sunbeam 23-Feb-04 15:50
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 282 ananda 23-Feb-04 16:15
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 289 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:28
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 292 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:25
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 278 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:36
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 294 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 287 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:49
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 264 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:22
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 236 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:26
Osirus - Seprapis - Christianity 289 Jaimi 23-Feb-04 21:04
Re: Osirus - Seprapis - Christianity 301 Milo 23-Feb-04 21:27
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 288 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:23
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 288 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:32
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 288 Paul Mallon 24-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 281 Milo 24-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 282 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:35
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 252 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:35
And by the way... 287 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:36
Re: And by the way... 297 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:42
Re: And by the way... 249 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:14
Re: And by the way... 251 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:28
Re: And by the way... 268 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 16:48
Sources? 271 ananda 26-Feb-04 17:24
Re: Sources? 253 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 18:29
Re: And by the way... 360 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 17:00
Re: And by the way... 266 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 17:45
Re: And by the way... 363 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 18:20
Re: And by the way... 251 ananda 26-Feb-04 18:49
Re: And by the way... 345 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 19:15
Re: And by the way... 239 ananda 26-Feb-04 21:11
Re: And by the way... 341 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 23:30
Re: And by the way... 335 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 00:14
Re: And by the way... 255 Kboldt 27-Feb-04 13:35
Re: And by the way... 317 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 16:44
Re: And by the way... 442 Kboldt 27-Feb-04 16:46
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 274 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:40
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 266 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 310 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:57
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 299 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 332 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:23
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 292 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:24
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 292 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:34
Challenge to Milo 290 ananda 23-Feb-04 21:21
Re: Challenge to Milo 309 Milo 23-Feb-04 21:38
Re: Challenge to Milo 343 ananda 23-Feb-04 21:43
Re: Challenge to Milo 282 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:31
Yes you are n/t 287 Nejc 23-Feb-04 21:56
Re: Yes you are n/t 262 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:25
Then again... 261 Nejc 24-Feb-04 08:31
Big Blue :) 280 Thirdwave 24-Feb-04 10:54
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 261 debraregypt 23-Feb-04 15:53
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 273 ananda 23-Feb-04 16:16
Archetypes of the collective unconscious 310 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:55
Re: Archetypes of the collective unconscious 297 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:04
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 294 David L 23-Feb-04 22:28
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 275 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 284 David L 24-Feb-04 01:35
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 279 Milo 24-Feb-04 01:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 253 Lee McGiffen 25-Feb-04 09:51
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 241 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:22
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 305 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:24
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 286 Milo 26-Feb-04 15:55
Lee... What about Moses? 276 ananda 26-Feb-04 16:12
Evidence that Jesus Existed 248 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:16
Re: Lee... What about Moses? 268 David L 26-Feb-04 20:37
Deblinkering debunkers... 269 Morph 24-Feb-04 15:26
Re: Deblinkering debunkers... 273 Zosimos 24-Feb-04 18:50
Re: Deblinkering debunkers... 230 Morph 25-Feb-04 15:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 278 Lee McGiffen 25-Feb-04 09:58
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 265 ananda 25-Feb-04 13:10
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 260 Milo 25-Feb-04 16:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 254 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:27
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 239 Zosimos 25-Feb-04 21:16
Re: Christ and Dionysis - good article 262 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:58
6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 255 Milo 25-Feb-04 18:05
Re: 6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 253 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:14
Re: 6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 254 Milo 25-Feb-04 18:34
Hmmm... 298 Morph 26-Feb-04 15:16
Re: Hmmm... 280 Morph 26-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Hmmm... 262 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:44
Au Contraire... 265 Morph 27-Feb-04 14:36


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