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I have always considered very plausible the idea that Christian deities have been shaped over the years as amalgamations and offshoots of former gods and figures as they happen to have been assimilated from other cultures and regions.

In Christ, I could see something of Horus and Mithra, for example (Zoroaster as well?)... in Mary, Isis (Astarte, Ishtar?).

Is this valid thinking?

I think some people are saying that the Christ/Mithra connection has been debunked... god, how I hate that word. However, I would like to know how that happened?

Also, I read somewhere that the origin of haloes came from AE depictions of Isis and Horus. Interesting. Remember we were wondering why some Renaissance painters used haloes and others didn't, and why Michelangelo and da Vinci didn't... though da Vinci was coerced into supplying them in his remake "Madonna of the Rocks." The Russians even went so far as to institutionalize haloes in all of their beautifully stylized icons and symbolic religious paintings. By the Middle Ages, belief was absolute and enforced with an iron hand, alternately a fist for coercion and a palm for accepting gifts, alms, tithes, and payment for indulgences.

Well, anyhow, I find it hard to believe that the Christ and Mary that fleshed out over the years just materialized out of the thin rarefied ether of heaven and fell on earth full blown with no other vertical or horizontal influences or histories to help us create them. Or were they indeed products of the spontaneous combustion of divine inspiration and miraculous events such as no one could invent or even come together to help create?

ananda

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Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 528 ananda 23-Feb-04 02:51
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 195 Milo 23-Feb-04 04:18
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 162 ananda 23-Feb-04 04:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 132 Milo 23-Feb-04 05:12
Mod Comment to you two 126 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 14:42
Re: Mod Comment to you two 131 Milo 23-Feb-04 15:00
Fallen Angels & Co. 142 Nejc 23-Feb-04 15:09
Re: Fallen Angels & Co. 156 Milo 23-Feb-04 15:18
Yes .. ups.. sorry..n/t 146 Nejc 23-Feb-04 15:27
it's me - lol 179 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 16:19
Re: it's me - lol 168 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:21
No probs n/t 177 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 16:30
Re: Divine Beings 168 Nebankh 23-Feb-04 16:47
Re: Divine Beings 160 Milo 23-Feb-04 17:17
Divine Agreement to Differ 169 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 17:58
Re: Divine Agreement to Differ 182 Milo 23-Feb-04 18:22
Believers and Researchers 194 Nejc 23-Feb-04 18:48
I am not a blind believer but a researcher 177 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:01
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 181 Nejc 23-Feb-04 19:15
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 161 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:19
Oh. Thanks for this one :) n/t 172 Nejc 23-Feb-04 19:22
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 131 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:21
On the other hand... 193 Nejc 23-Feb-04 20:21
Re: On the other hand... 165 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:39
Re: Divine Beings 208 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 19:00
Re: Divine Beings 142 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:09
Re: Divine Beings 210 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 19:24
Re: Divine Beings 145 David L 23-Feb-04 22:42
Is there another site for serious discussion? 194 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 166 Paul Mallon 24-Feb-04 18:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 158 Milo 24-Feb-04 19:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 140 David L 25-Feb-04 01:48
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 141 Milo 25-Feb-04 02:14
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 144 David L 25-Feb-04 03:03
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 140 Milo 25-Feb-04 06:37
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 146 David L 25-Feb-04 16:30
No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 157 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:18
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 146 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:47
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 155 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:54
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 152 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:58
Re: Cana 155 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:30
Re: Cana - missed off a bit! 145 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Cana - missed off a bit! 142 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:05
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 117 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:57
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 170 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:36
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 177 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 10:19
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 134 ananda 26-Feb-04 16:01
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 170 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:14
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 171 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:23
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 179 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:27
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 163 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:58
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 126 Milo 26-Feb-04 17:01
Augustinian vs. Gnostic (and even Pelagian) 156 ananda 26-Feb-04 17:30
Re: Augustinian vs. Gnostic (and even Pelagian) 147 Milo 26-Feb-04 17:43
In Addition.... 138 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 18:50
Point was missed 126 ananda 26-Feb-04 18:58
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 149 ArmchairObserver 25-Feb-04 18:45
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 137 Zosimos 25-Feb-04 18:53
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 146 ArmchairObserver 25-Feb-04 19:02
I misread the quoted passage... 130 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:28
Re: I misread the quoted passage... 174 David L 25-Feb-04 23:20
Re: I misread the quoted passage... 143 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:31
One more thing... 155 David L 25-Feb-04 23:25
Re: One more thing... 159 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:32
Also... 163 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:41
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 157 David L 25-Feb-04 23:08
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 157 Thirdwave 25-Feb-04 23:33
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 166 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:36
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 151 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 141 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:37
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 166 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:53
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 139 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:58
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 171 sunbeam 23-Feb-04 15:50
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 167 ananda 23-Feb-04 16:15
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 179 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:28
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 172 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:25
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 157 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:36
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 177 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 177 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:49
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 147 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:22
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 118 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:26
Osirus - Seprapis - Christianity 173 Jaimi 23-Feb-04 21:04
Re: Osirus - Seprapis - Christianity 187 Milo 23-Feb-04 21:27
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 179 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:23
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 173 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:32
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 178 Paul Mallon 24-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 166 Milo 24-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 170 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:35
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 134 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:35
And by the way... 168 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:36
Re: And by the way... 181 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:42
Re: And by the way... 135 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:14
Re: And by the way... 139 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:28
Re: And by the way... 161 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 16:48
Sources? 157 ananda 26-Feb-04 17:24
Re: Sources? 148 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 18:29
Re: And by the way... 224 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 17:00
Re: And by the way... 155 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 17:45
Re: And by the way... 229 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 18:20
Re: And by the way... 142 ananda 26-Feb-04 18:49
Re: And by the way... 200 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 19:15
Re: And by the way... 131 ananda 26-Feb-04 21:11
Re: And by the way... 200 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 23:30
Re: And by the way... 191 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 00:14
Re: And by the way... 146 Kboldt 27-Feb-04 13:35
Re: And by the way... 186 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 16:44
Re: And by the way... 236 Kboldt 27-Feb-04 16:46
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 162 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:40
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 153 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 191 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:57
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 185 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 222 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:23
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 172 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:24
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 171 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:34
Challenge to Milo 172 ananda 23-Feb-04 21:21
Re: Challenge to Milo 199 Milo 23-Feb-04 21:38
Re: Challenge to Milo 233 ananda 23-Feb-04 21:43
Re: Challenge to Milo 167 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:31
Yes you are n/t 178 Nejc 23-Feb-04 21:56
Re: Yes you are n/t 150 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:25
Then again... 151 Nejc 24-Feb-04 08:31
Big Blue :) 172 Thirdwave 24-Feb-04 10:54
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 140 debraregypt 23-Feb-04 15:53
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 164 ananda 23-Feb-04 16:16
Archetypes of the collective unconscious 206 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:55
Re: Archetypes of the collective unconscious 190 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:04
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 179 David L 23-Feb-04 22:28
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 164 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 173 David L 24-Feb-04 01:35
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 171 Milo 24-Feb-04 01:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 147 Lee McGiffen 25-Feb-04 09:51
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 128 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:22
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 192 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:24
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 174 Milo 26-Feb-04 15:55
Lee... What about Moses? 175 ananda 26-Feb-04 16:12
Evidence that Jesus Existed 142 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:16
Re: Lee... What about Moses? 162 David L 26-Feb-04 20:37
Deblinkering debunkers... 167 Morph 24-Feb-04 15:26
Re: Deblinkering debunkers... 173 Zosimos 24-Feb-04 18:50
Re: Deblinkering debunkers... 140 Morph 25-Feb-04 15:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 163 Lee McGiffen 25-Feb-04 09:58
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 161 ananda 25-Feb-04 13:10
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 164 Milo 25-Feb-04 16:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 146 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:27
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 144 Zosimos 25-Feb-04 21:16
Re: Christ and Dionysis - good article 152 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:58
6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 152 Milo 25-Feb-04 18:05
Re: 6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 148 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:14
Re: 6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 151 Milo 25-Feb-04 18:34
Hmmm... 186 Morph 26-Feb-04 15:16
Re: Hmmm... 172 Morph 26-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Hmmm... 165 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:44
Au Contraire... 156 Morph 27-Feb-04 14:36


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