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I have always considered very plausible the idea that Christian deities have been shaped over the years as amalgamations and offshoots of former gods and figures as they happen to have been assimilated from other cultures and regions.

In Christ, I could see something of Horus and Mithra, for example (Zoroaster as well?)... in Mary, Isis (Astarte, Ishtar?).

Is this valid thinking?

I think some people are saying that the Christ/Mithra connection has been debunked... god, how I hate that word. However, I would like to know how that happened?

Also, I read somewhere that the origin of haloes came from AE depictions of Isis and Horus. Interesting. Remember we were wondering why some Renaissance painters used haloes and others didn't, and why Michelangelo and da Vinci didn't... though da Vinci was coerced into supplying them in his remake "Madonna of the Rocks." The Russians even went so far as to institutionalize haloes in all of their beautifully stylized icons and symbolic religious paintings. By the Middle Ages, belief was absolute and enforced with an iron hand, alternately a fist for coercion and a palm for accepting gifts, alms, tithes, and payment for indulgences.

Well, anyhow, I find it hard to believe that the Christ and Mary that fleshed out over the years just materialized out of the thin rarefied ether of heaven and fell on earth full blown with no other vertical or horizontal influences or histories to help us create them. Or were they indeed products of the spontaneous combustion of divine inspiration and miraculous events such as no one could invent or even come together to help create?

ananda

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Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 609 ananda 23-Feb-04 02:51
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 218 Milo 23-Feb-04 04:18
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 183 ananda 23-Feb-04 04:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 150 Milo 23-Feb-04 05:12
Mod Comment to you two 148 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 14:42
Re: Mod Comment to you two 154 Milo 23-Feb-04 15:00
Fallen Angels & Co. 164 Nejc 23-Feb-04 15:09
Re: Fallen Angels & Co. 179 Milo 23-Feb-04 15:18
Yes .. ups.. sorry..n/t 167 Nejc 23-Feb-04 15:27
it's me - lol 201 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 16:19
Re: it's me - lol 196 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:21
No probs n/t 200 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 16:30
Re: Divine Beings 189 Nebankh 23-Feb-04 16:47
Re: Divine Beings 180 Milo 23-Feb-04 17:17
Divine Agreement to Differ 188 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 17:58
Re: Divine Agreement to Differ 206 Milo 23-Feb-04 18:22
Believers and Researchers 217 Nejc 23-Feb-04 18:48
I am not a blind believer but a researcher 195 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:01
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 205 Nejc 23-Feb-04 19:15
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 182 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:19
Oh. Thanks for this one :) n/t 195 Nejc 23-Feb-04 19:22
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 151 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:21
On the other hand... 217 Nejc 23-Feb-04 20:21
Re: On the other hand... 187 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:39
Re: Divine Beings 230 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 19:00
Re: Divine Beings 162 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:09
Re: Divine Beings 229 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 19:24
Re: Divine Beings 167 David L 23-Feb-04 22:42
Is there another site for serious discussion? 216 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 188 Paul Mallon 24-Feb-04 18:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 179 Milo 24-Feb-04 19:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 163 David L 25-Feb-04 01:48
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 159 Milo 25-Feb-04 02:14
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 161 David L 25-Feb-04 03:03
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 158 Milo 25-Feb-04 06:37
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 167 David L 25-Feb-04 16:30
No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 180 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:18
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 167 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:47
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 175 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:54
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 171 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:58
Re: Cana 177 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:30
Re: Cana - missed off a bit! 164 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Cana - missed off a bit! 163 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:05
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 136 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:57
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 189 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:36
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 199 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 10:19
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 154 ananda 26-Feb-04 16:01
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 192 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:14
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 190 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:23
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 204 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:27
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 185 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:58
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 145 Milo 26-Feb-04 17:01
Augustinian vs. Gnostic (and even Pelagian) 178 ananda 26-Feb-04 17:30
Re: Augustinian vs. Gnostic (and even Pelagian) 165 Milo 26-Feb-04 17:43
In Addition.... 155 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 18:50
Point was missed 144 ananda 26-Feb-04 18:58
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 172 ArmchairObserver 25-Feb-04 18:45
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 164 Zosimos 25-Feb-04 18:53
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 167 ArmchairObserver 25-Feb-04 19:02
I misread the quoted passage... 150 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:28
Re: I misread the quoted passage... 198 David L 25-Feb-04 23:20
Re: I misread the quoted passage... 163 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:31
One more thing... 177 David L 25-Feb-04 23:25
Re: One more thing... 181 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:32
Also... 182 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:41
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 178 David L 25-Feb-04 23:08
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 179 Thirdwave 25-Feb-04 23:33
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 189 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:36
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 167 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 164 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:37
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 191 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:53
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 162 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:58
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 192 sunbeam 23-Feb-04 15:50
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 191 ananda 23-Feb-04 16:15
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 199 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:28
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 194 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:25
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 180 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:36
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 197 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 199 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:49
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 168 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:22
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 140 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:26
Osirus - Seprapis - Christianity 194 Jaimi 23-Feb-04 21:04
Re: Osirus - Seprapis - Christianity 208 Milo 23-Feb-04 21:27
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 199 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:23
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 196 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:32
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 197 Paul Mallon 24-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 188 Milo 24-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 189 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:35
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 154 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:35
And by the way... 191 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:36
Re: And by the way... 204 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:42
Re: And by the way... 158 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:14
Re: And by the way... 163 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:28
Re: And by the way... 182 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 16:48
Sources? 177 ananda 26-Feb-04 17:24
Re: Sources? 166 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 18:29
Re: And by the way... 251 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 17:00
Re: And by the way... 175 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 17:45
Re: And by the way... 256 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 18:20
Re: And by the way... 164 ananda 26-Feb-04 18:49
Re: And by the way... 234 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 19:15
Re: And by the way... 153 ananda 26-Feb-04 21:11
Re: And by the way... 230 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 23:30
Re: And by the way... 224 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 00:14
Re: And by the way... 164 Kboldt 27-Feb-04 13:35
Re: And by the way... 213 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 16:44
Re: And by the way... 290 Kboldt 27-Feb-04 16:46
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 185 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:40
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 175 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 211 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:57
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 207 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 241 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:23
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 197 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:24
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 194 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:34
Challenge to Milo 192 ananda 23-Feb-04 21:21
Re: Challenge to Milo 217 Milo 23-Feb-04 21:38
Re: Challenge to Milo 253 ananda 23-Feb-04 21:43
Re: Challenge to Milo 190 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:31
Yes you are n/t 200 Nejc 23-Feb-04 21:56
Re: Yes you are n/t 170 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:25
Then again... 172 Nejc 24-Feb-04 08:31
Big Blue :) 193 Thirdwave 24-Feb-04 10:54
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 164 debraregypt 23-Feb-04 15:53
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 185 ananda 23-Feb-04 16:16
Archetypes of the collective unconscious 224 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:55
Re: Archetypes of the collective unconscious 211 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:04
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 203 David L 23-Feb-04 22:28
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 181 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 194 David L 24-Feb-04 01:35
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 191 Milo 24-Feb-04 01:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 167 Lee McGiffen 25-Feb-04 09:51
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 148 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:22
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 212 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:24
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 194 Milo 26-Feb-04 15:55
Lee... What about Moses? 196 ananda 26-Feb-04 16:12
Evidence that Jesus Existed 161 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:16
Re: Lee... What about Moses? 181 David L 26-Feb-04 20:37
Deblinkering debunkers... 190 Morph 24-Feb-04 15:26
Re: Deblinkering debunkers... 195 Zosimos 24-Feb-04 18:50
Re: Deblinkering debunkers... 158 Morph 25-Feb-04 15:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 183 Lee McGiffen 25-Feb-04 09:58
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 179 ananda 25-Feb-04 13:10
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 181 Milo 25-Feb-04 16:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 167 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:27
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 163 Zosimos 25-Feb-04 21:16
Re: Christ and Dionysis - good article 170 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:58
6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 168 Milo 25-Feb-04 18:05
Re: 6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 165 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:14
Re: 6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 170 Milo 25-Feb-04 18:34
Hmmm... 207 Morph 26-Feb-04 15:16
Re: Hmmm... 193 Morph 26-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Hmmm... 182 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:44
Au Contraire... 178 Morph 27-Feb-04 14:36


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