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Hi Anne-Marie
I agree with a lot that you have presented but addictive personality types consider themselves immune to self deception.Its the point I was trying to make in the previous post.It is difficult, if not impossible, for an addictive thinking person to have thoughts not concerned with there addiction.So their light is directed towards their attention.Unfortunately because they live in such self deception it is directed toward attentions that support their addictive thoughts.Addictive personalities seek instant gratification.Anything else is considered a long wait and anything other than instant gratification is intolerable.They will use any rationalization possible to defend there self deception.An example is a friend of mine who was a shop-aholic.When she shopped she felt wonderful.All her problems disappeared while she was purchasing.She purchased so many things that they would still have the price tags on them when she would have a rummage sale.At one sale my ex-wife found 25 pairs of exactly the same blue jeans that all had the price tags on them.They had never been washed or worn.We noticed that many other items were exactly the same way.Five pairs of identical shoes or blouses,etc all with the tags on them.My ex thought that maybe she had purchased this stuff somewhere else and was trying to resale it.When she question the friend,she laughed and said oh no,I bought all this stuff for myself and just never wore them.One of her many rationalizations was she didn't have time to wash and iron her clothes since she was so busy.So she would just purchase a lot of what she liked so they would always be available when she wanted to wear them.She was afraid to not have available what she wanted to wear.If she didn't have it to wear when she wanted, her self-esteem would sink really low, which in turn would push her out the door to the shopping mall and on a buying spree she would go until she felt better about herself.Her and her family went into considerable debt.Her husband even tried to hide money from her and she would search it out,find it and spend it.After a divorce, a lost house to creditors and problems with her kids she finally went for help.The irony is she didn't go for help about her addictive shopping but for other reasons.When she was confronted about her addiction she quit the help for awhile because they didn't know what they were talking about(self deception).She did return and today does much better.This friend had a Masters degree.This,I hope illustates the point I'm trying to present about addictive thinking.It is difficult for a addictive thinker to turn the negative into positive since they believe they are already doing that.They believe that they are already directing there attention and energy on the most important thing in their lives.Most addictive thinkers will not realize the errors of their thinking by themselves but have to be confronted about it.Only confrontation can awaken the addictive personality.Even though I agree with a lot that you have written.I don't think that addictive thinkers can use this successfully since they already believe they are doing what is the truth.Until they are confronted about their self deception and understand how it decieves them
and realize the distortions it presents in their thinking they will remain resistant to any other change.



Thank you,dane

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