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Hello Gene

Another fine topic posting. Thanks.

The historical Jesus can be debated endlessly as if Christ told the Truth , or even debated about if Christ was in fact a real historical character. It all just depends on which source one chooses to believe was actually founded in ‘Truths’.
Christianity is a ‘conceptual’ message based in large part, on the ideas of the brotherhood of mankind , this concept it being upheld as a truth, after the finite experience from a divinely inspired love and mercy for the brotherhood itself , a salvation for all of the faithful members of the concept , it the concept upheld by a ‘Supreme Father’ after ones death , upheld by a creator with a One Perfected Spirit of his self will , existing with as a One personification , an I AM , existing with a divine Son, this the Christ person , existing with a Mother spirit , the divinely inspired origins of those Motherhood concepts of the finite world.
These Three eternal conceptual ways, they comprise together , in the ideas of Christianity, the’ Trinity’ of Father , Son , Holy Spirit , of the one wholeness, of the Supreme Fathers , his own very personal Being, it expressed the Universal manifestation itself, though these acts .
This Supreme Father, he, according to the Message , has as a very personalized place of rewards for those of righteousness, a place existing within his created ever lasting universe, a perfected sphere, existing for the soul purpose alone for a rewards for his created children of Time and Space, there for them too then , on his salvation of them there to dwell blissfully forever and ever , with him, his son and the holy mother spirit. The Trinity has created a perfected Family, by ascension inwards away’s from default, back to perfection, their , the Trinities perfection.

The Apollonian views however, were based for the most part , on the ideas of Fate and Fortune, theses events of self in time and space being acts of life decided by a Supreme family , a family with a ruling monarch.
That life was lived with sense Triumph and Defeat by the acts of the Family of Gods.
That mankind lived out the events of self , with these All-Powerful Deities over-looking them daily , they decided on by the Acts done of humans for the gains of personal favors by the Gods.
Favors often gained through sacrifices. This concept was a natural one to accept , as a ‘Will of the Gods’, on a world of often bloody struggles against the harsh realities of self survival.

In fact it was the ‘Harsh Realities’ of life itself , that aided greatly the priesthood’s as they began to teach a New Message of Salvation, this new message finding fertile soil to blossom in, in the minds of those who saw life itself only as a Hellish a defaulted experience. Thus the Message of Christ was an easier one to believe.
The Apollonians had a concept that a Spirit was existing even on a mountain , in a stone or in a tree.
Fact is Gene, Christ’s message was no more nor less a Truthful message , than was the idea that a materialized part of the finite universe it held in it’s design, a soul or spirit.

Your statement that Christ in someway , was the Master who had the means of repeated births’ is wrong.
In fact, the Message of Christ, is Only true in a sense with the ideas employed by the Eternal Souls , the ever lasting spirit , to give into the finite adventurer’s life time an experience of fate and fortunes , that includes in them , even the ideas that Life is a gift , that Death is real.
Nothing, could be further from the ‘ Truth’. But that idealistic distance is part of the Finite Experience. That idea that salvation is even needed at all , those sort of thoughts, those are the ‘soil of mind’ that Christ’s message found as Fertile ground. Those sort of ideas that the pains of Life and Death meant a default of self from blissfulness lead to the ideas of a creator with evil on his mind , a creator defined as Satan.
Nothing could be further from the Truth.

The Apollonian’s were more correct on truths, in general , than was the Message of Christ.

We are Eternal as a Self. Self exists naturally. The Natural Universe of Origin of Self is Not a place were adventure is apart of that ever lasting selves thoughts.
Both the Ideas of the Apollonian’s and the latter Christian’s , are ideas that as a whole are designed to add to the greatness of the adventure of Self in Time as Space as a ‘Finite’. A Finite that Really Believes in Life with a Death , a Life with an End Time for self.

I for One , do Not Have any Spiritual Christ person in Me , I am an genuine ....I AM.
I AM eternal with or without the ideas inherent of life and deaths of Self and it’s Will.
Regards,

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