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Richard Fusniak wrote:
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> David,
>
> I postulate this: Nirvana is an illusion and a concept
> invented by mankind. For all you know there is no escape
> from the endless ties of mind, body and spirit. Spirit, mind
> and matter are intexorably linked and escape from the
> material world in the long term is sheer wishful thinking and
> poppycock. So showing others the way out of the material
> world is really banging your head up against a brick wall and
> trying to change what may very well be a natural phenomena.

Nirvana--which I call Universal Mind--is an illusion, but it's still more real than the astral and of course the physical. So if you're going to call it an illusion, include the rest of creation, because the Ruler of this world is Universal Mind--aka, The "Causal" plane.
The physical is just a projection of the inner worlds. Plato had it right in "The Cave".
David

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Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 717 Jergat 09-Feb-04 08:32
Moderator note 220 Richard Fusniak 09-Feb-04 19:18
Re: Moderator note 213 Jergat 09-Feb-04 22:13
Re: Moderator note 202 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:23
Re: Moderator note 200 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 00:30
Re: Moderator note 206 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:50
Re: Moderator note 201 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:17
About the moderation process 206 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:54
Re: About the moderation process 203 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:07
Re: About the moderation process 219 Cleopatra 10-Feb-04 20:10
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 203 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 00:59
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 205 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 186 Jergat 10-Feb-04 05:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 260 Briffits 10-Feb-04 09:27
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 218 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 219 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 204 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:11
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 197 David L 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 195 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 206 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 18:43
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 188 Briffits 10-Feb-04 22:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 201 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 202 Briffits 11-Feb-04 00:03
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 196 Milo 11-Feb-04 00:07
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 197 Briffits 11-Feb-04 10:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 200 Milo 11-Feb-04 15:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 193 Briffits 11-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 190 Milo 11-Feb-04 23:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 197 Briffits 12-Feb-04 00:23
Henceforth and forthwith... 212 Milo 12-Feb-04 00:53
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 196 Milo 11-Feb-04 17:08
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 199 Briffits 11-Feb-04 19:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 197 Milo 11-Feb-04 19:30
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 203 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 14:55
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 202 David L 10-Feb-04 01:23
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 214 Milo 10-Feb-04 02:15
Music from other spheres 214 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:59
Re: Music from other spheres 193 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:11
Possibly wrong again 195 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 03:15
Re: Possibly wrong again 201 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:24
Musical mediums 196 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 12:58
Musical plane 212 Kees 10-Feb-04 13:53
Re: Musical plane 195 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:48
Re: Musical plane 202 Kees 10-Feb-04 16:10
Re: Musical mediums 193 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:49
Re: Musical mediums 209 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 16:14
Re: Musical mediums 206 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:25
Re: Musical mediums 196 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:02
Re: Musical mediums 189 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:10
Poo-Pooing "channels" 194 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:19
Re: Poo-Pooing 194 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Possibly wrong again 202 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:49
Talking of Bach.... 206 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 09:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 202 David L 10-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 186 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:58
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 208 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 212 David L 10-Feb-04 18:39
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 207 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 202 David L 10-Feb-04 19:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 204 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:20
Gifts 179 Jergat 10-Feb-04 20:44
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 205 David L 10-Feb-04 23:35
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 250 Saorsa 10-Feb-04 14:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 197 David L 10-Feb-04 19:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 252 Saorsa 11-Feb-04 08:29
Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 217 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 15:05
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 203 David L 10-Feb-04 18:51
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 207 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:04
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 192 David L 10-Feb-04 19:13
Listening By Numbers 226 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Listening By Numbers 202 David L 10-Feb-04 19:19
Re: Listening By Numbers 192 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Listening By Numbers 206 David L 10-Feb-04 23:39
Re: Listening By Numbers 199 Briffits 11-Feb-04 03:11
Re: Listening By Numbers 202 Thirdwave 12-Feb-04 17:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 200 Kees 10-Feb-04 15:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 201 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 228 Mark Staab 11-Feb-04 06:08
Work work work 204 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 189 David L 10-Feb-04 19:24
Books 197 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Books 192 David L 10-Feb-04 23:44
Teachers 202 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 02:08
Re: Teachers 199 David L 11-Feb-04 03:07
Re: Teachers 207 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:16
Re: Teachers 193 David L 11-Feb-04 17:47
The yoga of sound 211 Kees 11-Feb-04 21:55
Re: The yoga of sound 197 David L 11-Feb-04 22:07
Small world indeed 190 Kees 11-Feb-04 22:42
Re: Teachers 202 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 23:24
Re: Teachers 198 David L 12-Feb-04 01:49
Spirtual arrogance and delusion 205 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 02:18
An apology 198 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 12:34
Re: An apology 189 fisherman 12-Feb-04 16:11
Re: An apology 227 David L 12-Feb-04 19:46
The wheel of life. 201 Richard Fusniak 13-Feb-04 01:32
The Catapillar and the Butterfly 205 Milo 13-Feb-04 01:35
Re: The Catapillar and the Butterfly 434 David L 13-Feb-04 02:52
Re: The wheel of life. 196 David L 13-Feb-04 02:50
Re: Teachers 201 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 03:19
Re: Teachers 203 David L 11-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Teachers 199 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 20:08


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