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Richard Fusniak wrote:
>
> I have a problem when people say they have a spiritual
> teacher. I find that most of the time these "teachers" have
> arrived at a point of awareness simply by reading stuff which
> originates from New Age type books and often incorporate
> dubious topics from distorted or unreliable religious based
> material or cults.
>
> Tell us about your teacher, what values you learn and why you
> need one when you have all that is within you to teach
> yourself, David.
>
> Fuzzy

Some of them have pulled their stuff from books, but not mine. She was initiated in the early sixties by a Punjabi teacher named Charan Singh, when NOBODY was doing that stuff... Spent years with him in India. He was last real adept of India. Pre-Beatles... She doesn't just teach--she acts. She works on us from inside and makes changes... It's not about values. Values are a given when you love people. It's about learning to die while living, which is learning to leave the body through a very specific meditation. Leave the body and go inward and upward--not to have "experiences", but to merge with All That Is. To become God, which is what we all are at our innermost core. It's about learning to love and accept love, and lose the self, rise above the mind. Use it, rather than be used by it....

We are very small, numbers wise and that is absolutely critical because it's the only way to achieve the intimacy necessary to transfer what the adept has to the initiates. It takes lots of contact, lots of one-on-one--in most cases. I have seen her make other adepts. I have explained here many times over about the need for a living adept, as opposed to one who has passed on. It comes down to that. We all have what is needed to reach the Source, but it takes an adept to quicken that, to bring it to the forefront of our consciousness so that it may be realized through meditation. If want to research it--the Shabd path, or "path of Sound and Light--there's plenty out there.
You say you have a problem with teachers... Does that include Jesus, Rumi, Siddartha, Krishna, Nanak, and the thousands who's names we'll never know--or is it only modern day teachers who are not needed, in your view?
Do you also have it in you be a virtuoso pianist? Many do--they are born with it. But they still hire teachers. And that goes for every discipline. Why not for the science of the soul?
David

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Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 713 Jergat 09-Feb-04 08:32
Moderator note 220 Richard Fusniak 09-Feb-04 19:18
Re: Moderator note 213 Jergat 09-Feb-04 22:13
Re: Moderator note 202 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:23
Re: Moderator note 199 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 00:30
Re: Moderator note 206 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:50
Re: Moderator note 200 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:17
About the moderation process 206 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:54
Re: About the moderation process 202 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:07
Re: About the moderation process 219 Cleopatra 10-Feb-04 20:10
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 203 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 00:59
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 204 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 186 Jergat 10-Feb-04 05:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 260 Briffits 10-Feb-04 09:27
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 218 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 219 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 203 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:11
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 197 David L 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 195 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 205 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 18:43
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 188 Briffits 10-Feb-04 22:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 201 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 202 Briffits 11-Feb-04 00:03
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 196 Milo 11-Feb-04 00:07
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 197 Briffits 11-Feb-04 10:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 200 Milo 11-Feb-04 15:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 193 Briffits 11-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 189 Milo 11-Feb-04 23:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 197 Briffits 12-Feb-04 00:23
Henceforth and forthwith... 212 Milo 12-Feb-04 00:53
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 196 Milo 11-Feb-04 17:08
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 198 Briffits 11-Feb-04 19:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 197 Milo 11-Feb-04 19:30
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 203 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 14:55
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 202 David L 10-Feb-04 01:23
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 214 Milo 10-Feb-04 02:15
Music from other spheres 214 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:59
Re: Music from other spheres 193 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:11
Possibly wrong again 195 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 03:15
Re: Possibly wrong again 201 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:24
Musical mediums 196 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 12:58
Musical plane 212 Kees 10-Feb-04 13:53
Re: Musical plane 195 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:48
Re: Musical plane 202 Kees 10-Feb-04 16:10
Re: Musical mediums 193 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:49
Re: Musical mediums 209 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 16:14
Re: Musical mediums 206 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:25
Re: Musical mediums 196 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:02
Re: Musical mediums 189 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:10
Poo-Pooing "channels" 194 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:19
Re: Poo-Pooing 194 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Possibly wrong again 201 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:49
Talking of Bach.... 206 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 09:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 201 David L 10-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 186 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:58
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 207 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 212 David L 10-Feb-04 18:39
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 207 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 202 David L 10-Feb-04 19:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 204 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:20
Gifts 179 Jergat 10-Feb-04 20:44
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 205 David L 10-Feb-04 23:35
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 250 Saorsa 10-Feb-04 14:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 197 David L 10-Feb-04 19:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 252 Saorsa 11-Feb-04 08:29
Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 217 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 15:05
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 203 David L 10-Feb-04 18:51
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 207 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:04
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 191 David L 10-Feb-04 19:13
Listening By Numbers 226 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Listening By Numbers 202 David L 10-Feb-04 19:19
Re: Listening By Numbers 192 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Listening By Numbers 205 David L 10-Feb-04 23:39
Re: Listening By Numbers 199 Briffits 11-Feb-04 03:11
Re: Listening By Numbers 202 Thirdwave 12-Feb-04 17:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 200 Kees 10-Feb-04 15:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 201 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 227 Mark Staab 11-Feb-04 06:08
Work work work 204 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 189 David L 10-Feb-04 19:24
Books 197 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Books 192 David L 10-Feb-04 23:44
Teachers 202 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 02:08
Re: Teachers 198 David L 11-Feb-04 03:07
Re: Teachers 207 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:16
Re: Teachers 193 David L 11-Feb-04 17:47
The yoga of sound 211 Kees 11-Feb-04 21:55
Re: The yoga of sound 197 David L 11-Feb-04 22:07
Small world indeed 190 Kees 11-Feb-04 22:42
Re: Teachers 202 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 23:24
Re: Teachers 198 David L 12-Feb-04 01:49
Spirtual arrogance and delusion 205 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 02:18
An apology 198 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 12:34
Re: An apology 189 fisherman 12-Feb-04 16:11
Re: An apology 227 David L 12-Feb-04 19:46
The wheel of life. 201 Richard Fusniak 13-Feb-04 01:32
The Catapillar and the Butterfly 204 Milo 13-Feb-04 01:35
Re: The Catapillar and the Butterfly 431 David L 13-Feb-04 02:52
Re: The wheel of life. 196 David L 13-Feb-04 02:50
Re: Teachers 201 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 03:19
Re: Teachers 203 David L 11-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Teachers 199 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 20:08


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