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Richard Fusniak wrote:
>
> I have a problem when people say they have a spiritual
> teacher. I find that most of the time these "teachers" have
> arrived at a point of awareness simply by reading stuff which
> originates from New Age type books and often incorporate
> dubious topics from distorted or unreliable religious based
> material or cults.
>
> Tell us about your teacher, what values you learn and why you
> need one when you have all that is within you to teach
> yourself, David.
>
> Fuzzy

Some of them have pulled their stuff from books, but not mine. She was initiated in the early sixties by a Punjabi teacher named Charan Singh, when NOBODY was doing that stuff... Spent years with him in India. He was last real adept of India. Pre-Beatles... She doesn't just teach--she acts. She works on us from inside and makes changes... It's not about values. Values are a given when you love people. It's about learning to die while living, which is learning to leave the body through a very specific meditation. Leave the body and go inward and upward--not to have "experiences", but to merge with All That Is. To become God, which is what we all are at our innermost core. It's about learning to love and accept love, and lose the self, rise above the mind. Use it, rather than be used by it....

We are very small, numbers wise and that is absolutely critical because it's the only way to achieve the intimacy necessary to transfer what the adept has to the initiates. It takes lots of contact, lots of one-on-one--in most cases. I have seen her make other adepts. I have explained here many times over about the need for a living adept, as opposed to one who has passed on. It comes down to that. We all have what is needed to reach the Source, but it takes an adept to quicken that, to bring it to the forefront of our consciousness so that it may be realized through meditation. If want to research it--the Shabd path, or "path of Sound and Light--there's plenty out there.
You say you have a problem with teachers... Does that include Jesus, Rumi, Siddartha, Krishna, Nanak, and the thousands who's names we'll never know--or is it only modern day teachers who are not needed, in your view?
Do you also have it in you be a virtuoso pianist? Many do--they are born with it. But they still hire teachers. And that goes for every discipline. Why not for the science of the soul?
David

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Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 440 Jergat 09-Feb-04 08:32
Moderator note 120 Richard Fusniak 09-Feb-04 19:18
Re: Moderator note 121 Jergat 09-Feb-04 22:13
Re: Moderator note 105 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:23
Re: Moderator note 109 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 00:30
Re: Moderator note 106 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:50
Re: Moderator note 106 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:17
About the moderation process 113 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:54
Re: About the moderation process 99 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:07
Re: About the moderation process 115 Cleopatra 10-Feb-04 20:10
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 107 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 00:59
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 103 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 95 Jergat 10-Feb-04 05:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 164 Briffits 10-Feb-04 09:27
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 119 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 121 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 107 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:11
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 102 David L 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 92 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 116 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 18:43
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 94 Briffits 10-Feb-04 22:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 105 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 106 Briffits 11-Feb-04 00:03
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 100 Milo 11-Feb-04 00:07
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 103 Briffits 11-Feb-04 10:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 104 Milo 11-Feb-04 15:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 99 Briffits 11-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 97 Milo 11-Feb-04 23:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 101 Briffits 12-Feb-04 00:23
Henceforth and forthwith... 118 Milo 12-Feb-04 00:53
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 98 Milo 11-Feb-04 17:08
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 108 Briffits 11-Feb-04 19:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 96 Milo 11-Feb-04 19:30
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 106 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 14:55
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 107 David L 10-Feb-04 01:23
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 115 Milo 10-Feb-04 02:15
Music from other spheres 118 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:59
Re: Music from other spheres 92 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:11
Possibly wrong again 102 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 03:15
Re: Possibly wrong again 104 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:24
Musical mediums 106 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 12:58
Musical plane 116 Kees 10-Feb-04 13:53
Re: Musical plane 102 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:48
Re: Musical plane 108 Kees 10-Feb-04 16:10
Re: Musical mediums 100 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:49
Re: Musical mediums 112 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 16:14
Re: Musical mediums 96 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:25
Re: Musical mediums 108 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:02
Re: Musical mediums 97 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:10
Poo-Pooing "channels" 99 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:19
Re: Poo-Pooing 103 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Possibly wrong again 101 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:49
Talking of Bach.... 102 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 09:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 107 David L 10-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 88 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:58
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 106 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 115 David L 10-Feb-04 18:39
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 102 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 100 David L 10-Feb-04 19:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 102 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:20
Gifts 91 Jergat 10-Feb-04 20:44
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 107 David L 10-Feb-04 23:35
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 150 Saorsa 10-Feb-04 14:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 96 David L 10-Feb-04 19:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 153 Saorsa 11-Feb-04 08:29
Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 118 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 15:05
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 106 David L 10-Feb-04 18:51
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 109 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:04
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 97 David L 10-Feb-04 19:13
Listening By Numbers 124 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Listening By Numbers 102 David L 10-Feb-04 19:19
Re: Listening By Numbers 93 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Listening By Numbers 111 David L 10-Feb-04 23:39
Re: Listening By Numbers 103 Briffits 11-Feb-04 03:11
Re: Listening By Numbers 107 Thirdwave 12-Feb-04 17:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 105 Kees 10-Feb-04 15:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 95 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 130 Mark Staab 11-Feb-04 06:08
Work work work 106 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 95 David L 10-Feb-04 19:24
Books 98 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Books 98 David L 10-Feb-04 23:44
Teachers 105 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 02:08
Re: Teachers 98 David L 11-Feb-04 03:07
Re: Teachers 112 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:16
Re: Teachers 100 David L 11-Feb-04 17:47
The yoga of sound 116 Kees 11-Feb-04 21:55
Re: The yoga of sound 99 David L 11-Feb-04 22:07
Small world indeed 98 Kees 11-Feb-04 22:42
Re: Teachers 99 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 23:24
Re: Teachers 98 David L 12-Feb-04 01:49
Spirtual arrogance and delusion 107 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 02:18
An apology 93 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 12:34
Re: An apology 92 fisherman 12-Feb-04 16:11
Re: An apology 117 David L 12-Feb-04 19:46
The wheel of life. 102 Richard Fusniak 13-Feb-04 01:32
The Catapillar and the Butterfly 107 Milo 13-Feb-04 01:35
Re: The Catapillar and the Butterfly 251 David L 13-Feb-04 02:52
Re: The wheel of life. 94 David L 13-Feb-04 02:50
Re: Teachers 96 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 03:19
Re: Teachers 101 David L 11-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Teachers 100 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 20:08


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