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Richard Fusniak wrote:
>
> I have a problem when people say they have a spiritual
> teacher. I find that most of the time these "teachers" have
> arrived at a point of awareness simply by reading stuff which
> originates from New Age type books and often incorporate
> dubious topics from distorted or unreliable religious based
> material or cults.
>
> Tell us about your teacher, what values you learn and why you
> need one when you have all that is within you to teach
> yourself, David.
>
> Fuzzy

Some of them have pulled their stuff from books, but not mine. She was initiated in the early sixties by a Punjabi teacher named Charan Singh, when NOBODY was doing that stuff... Spent years with him in India. He was last real adept of India. Pre-Beatles... She doesn't just teach--she acts. She works on us from inside and makes changes... It's not about values. Values are a given when you love people. It's about learning to die while living, which is learning to leave the body through a very specific meditation. Leave the body and go inward and upward--not to have "experiences", but to merge with All That Is. To become God, which is what we all are at our innermost core. It's about learning to love and accept love, and lose the self, rise above the mind. Use it, rather than be used by it....

We are very small, numbers wise and that is absolutely critical because it's the only way to achieve the intimacy necessary to transfer what the adept has to the initiates. It takes lots of contact, lots of one-on-one--in most cases. I have seen her make other adepts. I have explained here many times over about the need for a living adept, as opposed to one who has passed on. It comes down to that. We all have what is needed to reach the Source, but it takes an adept to quicken that, to bring it to the forefront of our consciousness so that it may be realized through meditation. If want to research it--the Shabd path, or "path of Sound and Light--there's plenty out there.
You say you have a problem with teachers... Does that include Jesus, Rumi, Siddartha, Krishna, Nanak, and the thousands who's names we'll never know--or is it only modern day teachers who are not needed, in your view?
Do you also have it in you be a virtuoso pianist? Many do--they are born with it. But they still hire teachers. And that goes for every discipline. Why not for the science of the soul?
David

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Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 585 Jergat 09-Feb-04 08:32
Moderator note 177 Richard Fusniak 09-Feb-04 19:18
Re: Moderator note 176 Jergat 09-Feb-04 22:13
Re: Moderator note 160 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:23
Re: Moderator note 162 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 00:30
Re: Moderator note 161 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:50
Re: Moderator note 161 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:17
About the moderation process 168 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:54
Re: About the moderation process 161 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:07
Re: About the moderation process 173 Cleopatra 10-Feb-04 20:10
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 160 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 00:59
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 164 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 145 Jergat 10-Feb-04 05:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 221 Briffits 10-Feb-04 09:27
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 178 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 176 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 160 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:11
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 154 David L 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 148 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 168 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 18:43
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 147 Briffits 10-Feb-04 22:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 161 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 161 Briffits 11-Feb-04 00:03
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 159 Milo 11-Feb-04 00:07
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 156 Briffits 11-Feb-04 10:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 159 Milo 11-Feb-04 15:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 153 Briffits 11-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 152 Milo 11-Feb-04 23:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 154 Briffits 12-Feb-04 00:23
Henceforth and forthwith... 167 Milo 12-Feb-04 00:53
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 155 Milo 11-Feb-04 17:08
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 157 Briffits 11-Feb-04 19:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 152 Milo 11-Feb-04 19:30
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 162 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 14:55
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 161 David L 10-Feb-04 01:23
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 175 Milo 10-Feb-04 02:15
Music from other spheres 171 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:59
Re: Music from other spheres 150 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:11
Possibly wrong again 156 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 03:15
Re: Possibly wrong again 157 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:24
Musical mediums 160 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 12:58
Musical plane 169 Kees 10-Feb-04 13:53
Re: Musical plane 155 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:48
Re: Musical plane 162 Kees 10-Feb-04 16:10
Re: Musical mediums 151 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:49
Re: Musical mediums 168 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 16:14
Re: Musical mediums 154 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:25
Re: Musical mediums 162 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:02
Re: Musical mediums 149 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:10
Poo-Pooing "channels" 157 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:19
Re: Poo-Pooing 155 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Possibly wrong again 155 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:49
Talking of Bach.... 160 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 09:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 161 David L 10-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 144 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:58
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 161 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 171 David L 10-Feb-04 18:39
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 162 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 160 David L 10-Feb-04 19:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 165 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:20
Gifts 134 Jergat 10-Feb-04 20:44
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 164 David L 10-Feb-04 23:35
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 208 Saorsa 10-Feb-04 14:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 150 David L 10-Feb-04 19:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 210 Saorsa 11-Feb-04 08:29
Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 176 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 15:05
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 162 David L 10-Feb-04 18:51
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 162 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:04
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 151 David L 10-Feb-04 19:13
Listening By Numbers 182 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Listening By Numbers 162 David L 10-Feb-04 19:19
Re: Listening By Numbers 149 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Listening By Numbers 166 David L 10-Feb-04 23:39
Re: Listening By Numbers 158 Briffits 11-Feb-04 03:11
Re: Listening By Numbers 160 Thirdwave 12-Feb-04 17:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 159 Kees 10-Feb-04 15:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 148 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 183 Mark Staab 11-Feb-04 06:08
Work work work 164 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 148 David L 10-Feb-04 19:24
Books 156 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Books 152 David L 10-Feb-04 23:44
Teachers 160 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 02:08
Re: Teachers 147 David L 11-Feb-04 03:07
Re: Teachers 166 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:16
Re: Teachers 156 David L 11-Feb-04 17:47
The yoga of sound 171 Kees 11-Feb-04 21:55
Re: The yoga of sound 151 David L 11-Feb-04 22:07
Small world indeed 152 Kees 11-Feb-04 22:42
Re: Teachers 159 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 23:24
Re: Teachers 152 David L 12-Feb-04 01:49
Spirtual arrogance and delusion 164 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 02:18
An apology 150 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 12:34
Re: An apology 150 fisherman 12-Feb-04 16:11
Re: An apology 177 David L 12-Feb-04 19:46
The wheel of life. 160 Richard Fusniak 13-Feb-04 01:32
The Catapillar and the Butterfly 163 Milo 13-Feb-04 01:35
Re: The Catapillar and the Butterfly 335 David L 13-Feb-04 02:52
Re: The wheel of life. 150 David L 13-Feb-04 02:50
Re: Teachers 155 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 03:19
Re: Teachers 158 David L 11-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Teachers 158 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 20:08


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