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Richard Fusniak wrote:
>
> I have a problem when people say they have a spiritual
> teacher. I find that most of the time these "teachers" have
> arrived at a point of awareness simply by reading stuff which
> originates from New Age type books and often incorporate
> dubious topics from distorted or unreliable religious based
> material or cults.
>
> Tell us about your teacher, what values you learn and why you
> need one when you have all that is within you to teach
> yourself, David.
>
> Fuzzy

Some of them have pulled their stuff from books, but not mine. She was initiated in the early sixties by a Punjabi teacher named Charan Singh, when NOBODY was doing that stuff... Spent years with him in India. He was last real adept of India. Pre-Beatles... She doesn't just teach--she acts. She works on us from inside and makes changes... It's not about values. Values are a given when you love people. It's about learning to die while living, which is learning to leave the body through a very specific meditation. Leave the body and go inward and upward--not to have "experiences", but to merge with All That Is. To become God, which is what we all are at our innermost core. It's about learning to love and accept love, and lose the self, rise above the mind. Use it, rather than be used by it....

We are very small, numbers wise and that is absolutely critical because it's the only way to achieve the intimacy necessary to transfer what the adept has to the initiates. It takes lots of contact, lots of one-on-one--in most cases. I have seen her make other adepts. I have explained here many times over about the need for a living adept, as opposed to one who has passed on. It comes down to that. We all have what is needed to reach the Source, but it takes an adept to quicken that, to bring it to the forefront of our consciousness so that it may be realized through meditation. If want to research it--the Shabd path, or "path of Sound and Light--there's plenty out there.
You say you have a problem with teachers... Does that include Jesus, Rumi, Siddartha, Krishna, Nanak, and the thousands who's names we'll never know--or is it only modern day teachers who are not needed, in your view?
Do you also have it in you be a virtuoso pianist? Many do--they are born with it. But they still hire teachers. And that goes for every discipline. Why not for the science of the soul?
David

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Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 459 Jergat 09-Feb-04 08:32
Moderator note 126 Richard Fusniak 09-Feb-04 19:18
Re: Moderator note 127 Jergat 09-Feb-04 22:13
Re: Moderator note 112 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:23
Re: Moderator note 115 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 00:30
Re: Moderator note 112 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:50
Re: Moderator note 112 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:17
About the moderation process 119 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:54
Re: About the moderation process 105 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:07
Re: About the moderation process 121 Cleopatra 10-Feb-04 20:10
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 112 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 00:59
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 109 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 101 Jergat 10-Feb-04 05:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 169 Briffits 10-Feb-04 09:27
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 126 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 128 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 112 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:11
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 109 David L 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 99 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 121 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 18:43
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 100 Briffits 10-Feb-04 22:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 111 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 111 Briffits 11-Feb-04 00:03
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 107 Milo 11-Feb-04 00:07
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 109 Briffits 11-Feb-04 10:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 110 Milo 11-Feb-04 15:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 105 Briffits 11-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 104 Milo 11-Feb-04 23:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 106 Briffits 12-Feb-04 00:23
Henceforth and forthwith... 124 Milo 12-Feb-04 00:53
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 105 Milo 11-Feb-04 17:08
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 114 Briffits 11-Feb-04 19:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 102 Milo 11-Feb-04 19:30
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 112 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 14:55
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 113 David L 10-Feb-04 01:23
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 122 Milo 10-Feb-04 02:15
Music from other spheres 124 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:59
Re: Music from other spheres 98 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:11
Possibly wrong again 109 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 03:15
Re: Possibly wrong again 110 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:24
Musical mediums 112 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 12:58
Musical plane 122 Kees 10-Feb-04 13:53
Re: Musical plane 107 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:48
Re: Musical plane 114 Kees 10-Feb-04 16:10
Re: Musical mediums 107 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:49
Re: Musical mediums 118 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 16:14
Re: Musical mediums 102 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:25
Re: Musical mediums 112 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:02
Re: Musical mediums 102 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:10
Poo-Pooing "channels" 106 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:19
Re: Poo-Pooing 108 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Possibly wrong again 106 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:49
Talking of Bach.... 108 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 09:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 113 David L 10-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 94 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:58
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 112 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 122 David L 10-Feb-04 18:39
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 108 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 107 David L 10-Feb-04 19:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 109 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:20
Gifts 98 Jergat 10-Feb-04 20:44
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 113 David L 10-Feb-04 23:35
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 156 Saorsa 10-Feb-04 14:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 102 David L 10-Feb-04 19:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 158 Saorsa 11-Feb-04 08:29
Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 125 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 15:05
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 112 David L 10-Feb-04 18:51
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 115 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:04
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 104 David L 10-Feb-04 19:13
Listening By Numbers 131 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Listening By Numbers 108 David L 10-Feb-04 19:19
Re: Listening By Numbers 100 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Listening By Numbers 117 David L 10-Feb-04 23:39
Re: Listening By Numbers 108 Briffits 11-Feb-04 03:11
Re: Listening By Numbers 112 Thirdwave 12-Feb-04 17:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 112 Kees 10-Feb-04 15:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 101 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 136 Mark Staab 11-Feb-04 06:08
Work work work 112 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 101 David L 10-Feb-04 19:24
Books 105 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Books 105 David L 10-Feb-04 23:44
Teachers 110 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 02:08
Re: Teachers 104 David L 11-Feb-04 03:07
Re: Teachers 118 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:16
Re: Teachers 106 David L 11-Feb-04 17:47
The yoga of sound 122 Kees 11-Feb-04 21:55
Re: The yoga of sound 104 David L 11-Feb-04 22:07
Small world indeed 104 Kees 11-Feb-04 22:42
Re: Teachers 106 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 23:24
Re: Teachers 104 David L 12-Feb-04 01:49
Spirtual arrogance and delusion 113 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 02:18
An apology 100 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 12:34
Re: An apology 99 fisherman 12-Feb-04 16:11
Re: An apology 124 David L 12-Feb-04 19:46
The wheel of life. 109 Richard Fusniak 13-Feb-04 01:32
The Catapillar and the Butterfly 113 Milo 13-Feb-04 01:35
Re: The Catapillar and the Butterfly 265 David L 13-Feb-04 02:52
Re: The wheel of life. 100 David L 13-Feb-04 02:50
Re: Teachers 102 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 03:19
Re: Teachers 106 David L 11-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Teachers 106 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 20:08


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