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I think if the source of creativity is to be considered with regards to music, then some narrowing of scope would help. There is no one size fits all approach to either composing or improvising so one would need to define the hypothetical individual in question as to background, idiom, schooled versus self taught, degree of exposure to different approaches, conventional, graphic, a combination or no notation at all. Is it composing for the page, with or without being heard as written, solely for the ear, for tape or hard disk? Are the motivations behind the composition emotional, intellectual, programmatic? The answer to your question changes as more of those are determined.

In improv, the idiom one is playing in changes and either narrows or widens the number of choices available at any given moment. So a thorough bass improvisor's approach was different than a Lizst or Scriabin's was, than a dixieland jazz player's polyphony, a bebopper's soloing over chord changes, or a post bop player altering the changes against a given theme, than a free jazzer's action painting in sound, than an Indian Raga, Balinese Gamelan or Shona mbira player's. Is it against a fixed meter, non-metered pulse, arhythmic or whatever happens in the moment. How about so called non-idiomatic improvisation which requires virtuosic listening more than anything and while there may be notes and chords involved they are tangential to the proceedings. Though really in even the most rigid forms the intangibles of phrasing and timbral variation, voicings, etc. are seemingly endless. In my small experience thinking is the last thing you want to do in improvisation. The idea is to get your conscious mind out of the way and interact with what you're hearing. Perceptions about what is working and what isn't is not the same in the moment as in listening to a document of it later.

This may seem like nitpicking, but I look at the context of Poe's statement. To him hearing music would have been an ephemeral experience of a very limited amount of music; some popular songs of the time, parlor pieces, etc. Major pieces of symphonic music might be heard once or twice in a lifetime. He probably knew about Bach and Mozart, likely not Schubert or Beethoven, let alone African, Indian, Japanese or what have you. Today our experience of music is nearly all electronic, that to some degree or another intends to create the illusion of a real physical space, or sometimes emphatically doesn't. We have unprecedented opportunities for hearing sounds from all over the planet. The very definition of the boundaries of what is and isn't music has changed drastically. There are many more ideas in music today than there would have been in the music of Poe's time as the 20th C saw an explosion in the available sound world, conceptual underpinnings and the uses that were and are made of music.

As to where inspiration originates is anyone's guess; not from the ego and the conscious mind though in my opinion.

Briffits

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Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 573 Jergat 09-Feb-04 08:32
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Re: Moderator note 156 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:23
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Re: Moderator note 156 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:50
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About the moderation process 162 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:54
Re: About the moderation process 155 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:07
Re: About the moderation process 168 Cleopatra 10-Feb-04 20:10
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 156 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 00:59
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 159 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 141 Jergat 10-Feb-04 05:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 213 Briffits 10-Feb-04 09:27
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 174 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 171 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 156 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:11
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 150 David L 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 142 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 162 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 18:43
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 143 Briffits 10-Feb-04 22:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 155 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 157 Briffits 11-Feb-04 00:03
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 155 Milo 11-Feb-04 00:07
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 152 Briffits 11-Feb-04 10:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 153 Milo 11-Feb-04 15:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 147 Briffits 11-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 147 Milo 11-Feb-04 23:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 150 Briffits 12-Feb-04 00:23
Henceforth and forthwith... 163 Milo 12-Feb-04 00:53
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 150 Milo 11-Feb-04 17:08
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 152 Briffits 11-Feb-04 19:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 147 Milo 11-Feb-04 19:30
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 157 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 14:55
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 156 David L 10-Feb-04 01:23
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 170 Milo 10-Feb-04 02:15
Music from other spheres 166 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:59
Re: Music from other spheres 146 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:11
Possibly wrong again 152 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 03:15
Re: Possibly wrong again 153 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:24
Musical mediums 157 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 12:58
Musical plane 164 Kees 10-Feb-04 13:53
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Re: Musical mediums 147 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:49
Re: Musical mediums 164 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 16:14
Re: Musical mediums 150 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:25
Re: Musical mediums 159 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:02
Re: Musical mediums 144 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:10
Poo-Pooing "channels" 152 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:19
Re: Poo-Pooing 150 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Possibly wrong again 151 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:49
Talking of Bach.... 156 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 09:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 157 David L 10-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 139 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:58
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 155 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 163 David L 10-Feb-04 18:39
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 158 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 156 David L 10-Feb-04 19:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 161 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:20
Gifts 131 Jergat 10-Feb-04 20:44
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 160 David L 10-Feb-04 23:35
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 201 Saorsa 10-Feb-04 14:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 146 David L 10-Feb-04 19:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 205 Saorsa 11-Feb-04 08:29
Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 172 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 15:05
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 157 David L 10-Feb-04 18:51
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 157 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:04
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 144 David L 10-Feb-04 19:13
Listening By Numbers 178 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Listening By Numbers 155 David L 10-Feb-04 19:19
Re: Listening By Numbers 144 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Listening By Numbers 162 David L 10-Feb-04 23:39
Re: Listening By Numbers 150 Briffits 11-Feb-04 03:11
Re: Listening By Numbers 154 Thirdwave 12-Feb-04 17:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 155 Kees 10-Feb-04 15:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 143 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 179 Mark Staab 11-Feb-04 06:08
Work work work 158 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 143 David L 10-Feb-04 19:24
Books 152 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Books 147 David L 10-Feb-04 23:44
Teachers 154 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 02:08
Re: Teachers 142 David L 11-Feb-04 03:07
Re: Teachers 161 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:16
Re: Teachers 148 David L 11-Feb-04 17:47
The yoga of sound 167 Kees 11-Feb-04 21:55
Re: The yoga of sound 147 David L 11-Feb-04 22:07
Small world indeed 148 Kees 11-Feb-04 22:42
Re: Teachers 152 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 23:24
Re: Teachers 148 David L 12-Feb-04 01:49
Spirtual arrogance and delusion 160 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 02:18
An apology 147 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 12:34
Re: An apology 146 fisherman 12-Feb-04 16:11
Re: An apology 171 David L 12-Feb-04 19:46
The wheel of life. 152 Richard Fusniak 13-Feb-04 01:32
The Catapillar and the Butterfly 156 Milo 13-Feb-04 01:35
Re: The Catapillar and the Butterfly 326 David L 13-Feb-04 02:52
Re: The wheel of life. 144 David L 13-Feb-04 02:50
Re: Teachers 150 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 03:19
Re: Teachers 153 David L 11-Feb-04 17:48
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