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Jergat wrote:
>
> One thing about my personality is that I can see these
> connections really clearly, but other people have trouble
> understanding what I am talking about, so I'll start off with
> this post explaining my opinion on the origin of a human
> perspective of music.
>
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> I can think of many connections with the notion of
> synchronicity and the collective consciousness when it comes
> to music. The very notion of music itself is conceived of as
> mere sounds, however, without thought, there is only music.
> Here's what Edgar Allen Poe had to say:
>
> "SHADOWS OF shadows passing. It is now 1831, and as always I
> am absorbed with a delicate thought. It is how poetry has
> indefinite sensations, to which end music is inessential.
> Since the comprehension of sweet sound is our most indefinite
> conception, music, when combined with a pleasurable idea, is
> poetry. Music without the idea is simply music. Without music
> or an intriguing idea, colour becomes pallor, man becomes
> carcase, home becomes catacomb, and the dead are but for a
> moment motionless."
>
> So Poe understands that music without an idea is simply
> music. But when thought is combined with the music, well,
> that's where the indefinite come in. Very interesting stuff.
>
> When we think about classical music and refined or ancient
> musical techniqe, we don't assume that it suddenly sprung
> from nothing. It was indeed a learning process. Beethoven,
> Bach and Mozart wrote their music inspired by their
> surroundings and emotions, so right here we see that there is
> something more to music than just straight sound. But we find
> music in nature; birds singing, rivers rushing and trees
> swaying in the wind - in essence, the music of the spheres,
> transcended into elemental vibrations, on planet earth. But
> no more is human made sound just primitive grunting and
> growls. It has matured and manifested itself into the
> creation of all music we hear and this is an important theme
> to remember when dealing with synchronicity.
>
> Jeremy

Most music is channeled, and some composers channel better than others,
and some very few composers channel from very high places. Like Mozart,
who was channeling his stuff into symphonies at age 4, I believe.
Rap, otoh, is channeled from the astral lowlands... Blues and jazz, not much higher.
David

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Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 440 Jergat 09-Feb-04 08:32
Moderator note 120 Richard Fusniak 09-Feb-04 19:18
Re: Moderator note 121 Jergat 09-Feb-04 22:13
Re: Moderator note 106 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:23
Re: Moderator note 109 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 00:30
Re: Moderator note 107 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:50
Re: Moderator note 106 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:17
About the moderation process 113 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:54
Re: About the moderation process 99 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:07
Re: About the moderation process 115 Cleopatra 10-Feb-04 20:10
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 107 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 00:59
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 103 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 95 Jergat 10-Feb-04 05:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 164 Briffits 10-Feb-04 09:27
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 119 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 121 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 107 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:11
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 102 David L 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 92 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 116 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 18:43
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 94 Briffits 10-Feb-04 22:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 105 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 106 Briffits 11-Feb-04 00:03
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 101 Milo 11-Feb-04 00:07
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 103 Briffits 11-Feb-04 10:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 104 Milo 11-Feb-04 15:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 99 Briffits 11-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 97 Milo 11-Feb-04 23:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 101 Briffits 12-Feb-04 00:23
Henceforth and forthwith... 119 Milo 12-Feb-04 00:53
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 98 Milo 11-Feb-04 17:08
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 108 Briffits 11-Feb-04 19:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 97 Milo 11-Feb-04 19:30
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 106 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 14:55
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 107 David L 10-Feb-04 01:23
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 115 Milo 10-Feb-04 02:15
Music from other spheres 118 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:59
Re: Music from other spheres 93 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:11
Possibly wrong again 102 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 03:15
Re: Possibly wrong again 105 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:24
Musical mediums 106 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 12:58
Musical plane 117 Kees 10-Feb-04 13:53
Re: Musical plane 102 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:48
Re: Musical plane 108 Kees 10-Feb-04 16:10
Re: Musical mediums 100 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:49
Re: Musical mediums 112 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 16:14
Re: Musical mediums 96 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:25
Re: Musical mediums 108 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:02
Re: Musical mediums 97 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:10
Poo-Pooing "channels" 99 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:19
Re: Poo-Pooing 103 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Possibly wrong again 101 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:49
Talking of Bach.... 102 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 09:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 108 David L 10-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 88 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:58
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 106 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 115 David L 10-Feb-04 18:39
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 102 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 100 David L 10-Feb-04 19:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 102 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:20
Gifts 91 Jergat 10-Feb-04 20:44
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 107 David L 10-Feb-04 23:35
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 150 Saorsa 10-Feb-04 14:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 96 David L 10-Feb-04 19:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 153 Saorsa 11-Feb-04 08:29
Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 118 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 15:05
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 106 David L 10-Feb-04 18:51
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 109 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:04
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 98 David L 10-Feb-04 19:13
Listening By Numbers 124 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Listening By Numbers 102 David L 10-Feb-04 19:19
Re: Listening By Numbers 93 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Listening By Numbers 111 David L 10-Feb-04 23:39
Re: Listening By Numbers 103 Briffits 11-Feb-04 03:11
Re: Listening By Numbers 107 Thirdwave 12-Feb-04 17:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 105 Kees 10-Feb-04 15:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 95 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 130 Mark Staab 11-Feb-04 06:08
Work work work 106 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 95 David L 10-Feb-04 19:24
Books 98 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Books 99 David L 10-Feb-04 23:44
Teachers 105 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 02:08
Re: Teachers 99 David L 11-Feb-04 03:07
Re: Teachers 113 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:16
Re: Teachers 101 David L 11-Feb-04 17:47
The yoga of sound 116 Kees 11-Feb-04 21:55
Re: The yoga of sound 99 David L 11-Feb-04 22:07
Small world indeed 99 Kees 11-Feb-04 22:42
Re: Teachers 99 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 23:24
Re: Teachers 99 David L 12-Feb-04 01:49
Spirtual arrogance and delusion 107 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 02:18
An apology 93 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 12:34
Re: An apology 92 fisherman 12-Feb-04 16:11
Re: An apology 117 David L 12-Feb-04 19:46
The wheel of life. 102 Richard Fusniak 13-Feb-04 01:32
The Catapillar and the Butterfly 107 Milo 13-Feb-04 01:35
Re: The Catapillar and the Butterfly 251 David L 13-Feb-04 02:52
Re: The wheel of life. 94 David L 13-Feb-04 02:50
Re: Teachers 96 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 03:19
Re: Teachers 101 David L 11-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Teachers 100 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 20:08


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