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Jergat wrote:
>
> One thing about my personality is that I can see these
> connections really clearly, but other people have trouble
> understanding what I am talking about, so I'll start off with
> this post explaining my opinion on the origin of a human
> perspective of music.
>
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> I can think of many connections with the notion of
> synchronicity and the collective consciousness when it comes
> to music. The very notion of music itself is conceived of as
> mere sounds, however, without thought, there is only music.
> Here's what Edgar Allen Poe had to say:
>
> "SHADOWS OF shadows passing. It is now 1831, and as always I
> am absorbed with a delicate thought. It is how poetry has
> indefinite sensations, to which end music is inessential.
> Since the comprehension of sweet sound is our most indefinite
> conception, music, when combined with a pleasurable idea, is
> poetry. Music without the idea is simply music. Without music
> or an intriguing idea, colour becomes pallor, man becomes
> carcase, home becomes catacomb, and the dead are but for a
> moment motionless."
>
> So Poe understands that music without an idea is simply
> music. But when thought is combined with the music, well,
> that's where the indefinite come in. Very interesting stuff.
>
> When we think about classical music and refined or ancient
> musical techniqe, we don't assume that it suddenly sprung
> from nothing. It was indeed a learning process. Beethoven,
> Bach and Mozart wrote their music inspired by their
> surroundings and emotions, so right here we see that there is
> something more to music than just straight sound. But we find
> music in nature; birds singing, rivers rushing and trees
> swaying in the wind - in essence, the music of the spheres,
> transcended into elemental vibrations, on planet earth. But
> no more is human made sound just primitive grunting and
> growls. It has matured and manifested itself into the
> creation of all music we hear and this is an important theme
> to remember when dealing with synchronicity.
>
> Jeremy

Most music is channeled, and some composers channel better than others,
and some very few composers channel from very high places. Like Mozart,
who was channeling his stuff into symphonies at age 4, I believe.
Rap, otoh, is channeled from the astral lowlands... Blues and jazz, not much higher.
David

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Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 506 Jergat 09-Feb-04 08:32
Moderator note 150 Richard Fusniak 09-Feb-04 19:18
Re: Moderator note 149 Jergat 09-Feb-04 22:13
Re: Moderator note 134 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:23
Re: Moderator note 134 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 00:30
Re: Moderator note 133 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:50
Re: Moderator note 131 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:17
About the moderation process 140 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:54
Re: About the moderation process 130 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:07
Re: About the moderation process 143 Cleopatra 10-Feb-04 20:10
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 134 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 00:59
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 132 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 119 Jergat 10-Feb-04 05:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 192 Briffits 10-Feb-04 09:27
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 149 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 150 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 134 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:11
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 128 David L 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 120 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 141 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 18:43
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 120 Briffits 10-Feb-04 22:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 132 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 134 Briffits 11-Feb-04 00:03
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 130 Milo 11-Feb-04 00:07
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 129 Briffits 11-Feb-04 10:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 131 Milo 11-Feb-04 15:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 125 Briffits 11-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 126 Milo 11-Feb-04 23:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 128 Briffits 12-Feb-04 00:23
Henceforth and forthwith... 143 Milo 12-Feb-04 00:53
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 127 Milo 11-Feb-04 17:08
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 132 Briffits 11-Feb-04 19:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 125 Milo 11-Feb-04 19:30
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 133 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 14:55
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 133 David L 10-Feb-04 01:23
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 145 Milo 10-Feb-04 02:15
Music from other spheres 144 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:59
Re: Music from other spheres 120 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:11
Possibly wrong again 130 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 03:15
Re: Possibly wrong again 130 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:24
Musical mediums 134 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 12:58
Musical plane 143 Kees 10-Feb-04 13:53
Re: Musical plane 127 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:48
Re: Musical plane 135 Kees 10-Feb-04 16:10
Re: Musical mediums 126 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:49
Re: Musical mediums 141 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 16:14
Re: Musical mediums 126 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:25
Re: Musical mediums 135 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:02
Re: Musical mediums 124 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:10
Poo-Pooing "channels" 129 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:19
Re: Poo-Pooing 129 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Possibly wrong again 128 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:49
Talking of Bach.... 130 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 09:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 136 David L 10-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 116 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:58
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 133 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 142 David L 10-Feb-04 18:39
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 130 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 131 David L 10-Feb-04 19:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 136 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:20
Gifts 108 Jergat 10-Feb-04 20:44
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 135 David L 10-Feb-04 23:35
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 177 Saorsa 10-Feb-04 14:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 124 David L 10-Feb-04 19:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 182 Saorsa 11-Feb-04 08:29
Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 148 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 15:05
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 134 David L 10-Feb-04 18:51
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 136 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:04
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 123 David L 10-Feb-04 19:13
Listening By Numbers 154 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Listening By Numbers 131 David L 10-Feb-04 19:19
Re: Listening By Numbers 122 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Listening By Numbers 139 David L 10-Feb-04 23:39
Re: Listening By Numbers 128 Briffits 11-Feb-04 03:11
Re: Listening By Numbers 131 Thirdwave 12-Feb-04 17:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 133 Kees 10-Feb-04 15:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 121 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 157 Mark Staab 11-Feb-04 06:08
Work work work 134 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 120 David L 10-Feb-04 19:24
Books 126 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Books 125 David L 10-Feb-04 23:44
Teachers 131 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 02:08
Re: Teachers 124 David L 11-Feb-04 03:07
Re: Teachers 139 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:16
Re: Teachers 127 David L 11-Feb-04 17:47
The yoga of sound 145 Kees 11-Feb-04 21:55
Re: The yoga of sound 125 David L 11-Feb-04 22:07
Small world indeed 126 Kees 11-Feb-04 22:42
Re: Teachers 128 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 23:24
Re: Teachers 125 David L 12-Feb-04 01:49
Spirtual arrogance and delusion 136 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 02:18
An apology 121 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 12:34
Re: An apology 121 fisherman 12-Feb-04 16:11
Re: An apology 147 David L 12-Feb-04 19:46
The wheel of life. 131 Richard Fusniak 13-Feb-04 01:32
The Catapillar and the Butterfly 134 Milo 13-Feb-04 01:35
Re: The Catapillar and the Butterfly 283 David L 13-Feb-04 02:52
Re: The wheel of life. 121 David L 13-Feb-04 02:50
Re: Teachers 124 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 03:19
Re: Teachers 127 David L 11-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Teachers 129 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 20:08


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