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One thing about my personality is that I can see these connections really clearly, but other people have trouble understanding what I am talking about, so I'll start off with this post explaining my opinion on the origin of a human perspective of music.

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I can think of many connections with the notion of synchronicity and the collective consciousness when it comes to music. The very notion of music itself is conceived of as mere sounds, however, without thought, there is only music. Here's what Edgar Allen Poe had to say:

"SHADOWS OF shadows passing. It is now 1831, and as always I am absorbed with a delicate thought. It is how poetry has indefinite sensations, to which end music is inessential. Since the comprehension of sweet sound is our most indefinite conception, music, when combined with a pleasurable idea, is poetry. Music without the idea is simply music. Without music or an intriguing idea, colour becomes pallor, man becomes carcase, home becomes catacomb, and the dead are but for a moment motionless."

So Poe understands that music without an idea is simply music. But when thought is combined with the music, well, that's where the indefinite come in. Very interesting stuff.

When we think about classical music and refined or ancient musical techniqe, we don't assume that it suddenly sprung from nothing. It was indeed a learning process. Beethoven, Bach and Mozart wrote their music inspired by their surroundings and emotions, so right here we see that there is something more to music than just straight sound. But we find music in nature; birds singing, rivers rushing and trees swaying in the wind - in essence, the music of the spheres, transcended into elemental vibrations, on planet earth. But no more is human made sound just primitive grunting and growls. It has matured and manifested itself into the creation of all music we hear and this is an important theme to remember when dealing with synchronicity.

Jeremy

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Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 462 Jergat 09-Feb-04 08:32
Moderator note 126 Richard Fusniak 09-Feb-04 19:18
Re: Moderator note 127 Jergat 09-Feb-04 22:13
Re: Moderator note 112 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:23
Re: Moderator note 115 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 00:30
Re: Moderator note 112 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:50
Re: Moderator note 112 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:17
About the moderation process 119 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:54
Re: About the moderation process 105 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:07
Re: About the moderation process 121 Cleopatra 10-Feb-04 20:10
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 112 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 00:59
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 110 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 102 Jergat 10-Feb-04 05:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 170 Briffits 10-Feb-04 09:27
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 126 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 129 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 113 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:11
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 109 David L 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 99 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 122 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 18:43
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 100 Briffits 10-Feb-04 22:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 111 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 111 Briffits 11-Feb-04 00:03
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 108 Milo 11-Feb-04 00:07
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 109 Briffits 11-Feb-04 10:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 110 Milo 11-Feb-04 15:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 105 Briffits 11-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 104 Milo 11-Feb-04 23:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 106 Briffits 12-Feb-04 00:23
Henceforth and forthwith... 124 Milo 12-Feb-04 00:53
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 105 Milo 11-Feb-04 17:08
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 114 Briffits 11-Feb-04 19:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 102 Milo 11-Feb-04 19:30
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 112 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 14:55
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 113 David L 10-Feb-04 01:23
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 122 Milo 10-Feb-04 02:15
Music from other spheres 124 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:59
Re: Music from other spheres 98 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:11
Possibly wrong again 110 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 03:15
Re: Possibly wrong again 110 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:24
Musical mediums 112 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 12:58
Musical plane 122 Kees 10-Feb-04 13:53
Re: Musical plane 107 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:48
Re: Musical plane 114 Kees 10-Feb-04 16:10
Re: Musical mediums 107 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:49
Re: Musical mediums 119 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 16:14
Re: Musical mediums 102 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:25
Re: Musical mediums 112 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:02
Re: Musical mediums 102 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:10
Poo-Pooing "channels" 106 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:19
Re: Poo-Pooing 109 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Possibly wrong again 106 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:49
Talking of Bach.... 108 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 09:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 113 David L 10-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 94 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:58
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 112 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 122 David L 10-Feb-04 18:39
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 108 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 108 David L 10-Feb-04 19:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 109 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:20
Gifts 99 Jergat 10-Feb-04 20:44
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 113 David L 10-Feb-04 23:35
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 156 Saorsa 10-Feb-04 14:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 102 David L 10-Feb-04 19:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 160 Saorsa 11-Feb-04 08:29
Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 125 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 15:05
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 113 David L 10-Feb-04 18:51
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 115 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:04
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 104 David L 10-Feb-04 19:13
Listening By Numbers 131 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Listening By Numbers 108 David L 10-Feb-04 19:19
Re: Listening By Numbers 100 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Listening By Numbers 117 David L 10-Feb-04 23:39
Re: Listening By Numbers 108 Briffits 11-Feb-04 03:11
Re: Listening By Numbers 112 Thirdwave 12-Feb-04 17:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 112 Kees 10-Feb-04 15:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 101 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 137 Mark Staab 11-Feb-04 06:08
Work work work 112 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 101 David L 10-Feb-04 19:24
Books 106 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Books 105 David L 10-Feb-04 23:44
Teachers 111 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 02:08
Re: Teachers 105 David L 11-Feb-04 03:07
Re: Teachers 118 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:16
Re: Teachers 106 David L 11-Feb-04 17:47
The yoga of sound 122 Kees 11-Feb-04 21:55
Re: The yoga of sound 104 David L 11-Feb-04 22:07
Small world indeed 104 Kees 11-Feb-04 22:42
Re: Teachers 106 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 23:24
Re: Teachers 105 David L 12-Feb-04 01:49
Spirtual arrogance and delusion 113 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 02:18
An apology 100 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 12:34
Re: An apology 99 fisherman 12-Feb-04 16:11
Re: An apology 124 David L 12-Feb-04 19:46
The wheel of life. 109 Richard Fusniak 13-Feb-04 01:32
The Catapillar and the Butterfly 113 Milo 13-Feb-04 01:35
Re: The Catapillar and the Butterfly 266 David L 13-Feb-04 02:52
Re: The wheel of life. 101 David L 13-Feb-04 02:50
Re: Teachers 102 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 03:19
Re: Teachers 106 David L 11-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Teachers 107 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 20:08


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