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One thing about my personality is that I can see these connections really clearly, but other people have trouble understanding what I am talking about, so I'll start off with this post explaining my opinion on the origin of a human perspective of music.

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I can think of many connections with the notion of synchronicity and the collective consciousness when it comes to music. The very notion of music itself is conceived of as mere sounds, however, without thought, there is only music. Here's what Edgar Allen Poe had to say:

"SHADOWS OF shadows passing. It is now 1831, and as always I am absorbed with a delicate thought. It is how poetry has indefinite sensations, to which end music is inessential. Since the comprehension of sweet sound is our most indefinite conception, music, when combined with a pleasurable idea, is poetry. Music without the idea is simply music. Without music or an intriguing idea, colour becomes pallor, man becomes carcase, home becomes catacomb, and the dead are but for a moment motionless."

So Poe understands that music without an idea is simply music. But when thought is combined with the music, well, that's where the indefinite come in. Very interesting stuff.

When we think about classical music and refined or ancient musical techniqe, we don't assume that it suddenly sprung from nothing. It was indeed a learning process. Beethoven, Bach and Mozart wrote their music inspired by their surroundings and emotions, so right here we see that there is something more to music than just straight sound. But we find music in nature; birds singing, rivers rushing and trees swaying in the wind - in essence, the music of the spheres, transcended into elemental vibrations, on planet earth. But no more is human made sound just primitive grunting and growls. It has matured and manifested itself into the creation of all music we hear and this is an important theme to remember when dealing with synchronicity.

Jeremy

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Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 573 Jergat 09-Feb-04 08:32
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Re: Moderator note 156 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:23
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Re: Moderator note 156 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:50
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About the moderation process 162 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:54
Re: About the moderation process 155 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:07
Re: About the moderation process 168 Cleopatra 10-Feb-04 20:10
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 156 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 00:59
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 159 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 141 Jergat 10-Feb-04 05:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 214 Briffits 10-Feb-04 09:27
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 174 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 171 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 156 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:11
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 150 David L 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 143 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 163 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 18:43
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 143 Briffits 10-Feb-04 22:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 155 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 157 Briffits 11-Feb-04 00:03
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 155 Milo 11-Feb-04 00:07
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 152 Briffits 11-Feb-04 10:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 153 Milo 11-Feb-04 15:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 147 Briffits 11-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 147 Milo 11-Feb-04 23:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 150 Briffits 12-Feb-04 00:23
Henceforth and forthwith... 163 Milo 12-Feb-04 00:53
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 150 Milo 11-Feb-04 17:08
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 152 Briffits 11-Feb-04 19:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 147 Milo 11-Feb-04 19:30
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 157 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 14:55
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 156 David L 10-Feb-04 01:23
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 170 Milo 10-Feb-04 02:15
Music from other spheres 166 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:59
Re: Music from other spheres 146 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:11
Possibly wrong again 152 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 03:15
Re: Possibly wrong again 153 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:24
Musical mediums 157 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 12:58
Musical plane 164 Kees 10-Feb-04 13:53
Re: Musical plane 149 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:48
Re: Musical plane 156 Kees 10-Feb-04 16:10
Re: Musical mediums 147 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:49
Re: Musical mediums 164 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 16:14
Re: Musical mediums 150 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:25
Re: Musical mediums 159 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:02
Re: Musical mediums 144 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:10
Poo-Pooing "channels" 152 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:19
Re: Poo-Pooing 150 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Possibly wrong again 151 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:49
Talking of Bach.... 156 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 09:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 157 David L 10-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 139 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:58
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 155 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 163 David L 10-Feb-04 18:39
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 158 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 156 David L 10-Feb-04 19:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 161 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:20
Gifts 131 Jergat 10-Feb-04 20:44
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 160 David L 10-Feb-04 23:35
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 201 Saorsa 10-Feb-04 14:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 146 David L 10-Feb-04 19:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 206 Saorsa 11-Feb-04 08:29
Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 172 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 15:05
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 158 David L 10-Feb-04 18:51
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 158 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:04
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 144 David L 10-Feb-04 19:13
Listening By Numbers 178 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Listening By Numbers 155 David L 10-Feb-04 19:19
Re: Listening By Numbers 144 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Listening By Numbers 162 David L 10-Feb-04 23:39
Re: Listening By Numbers 150 Briffits 11-Feb-04 03:11
Re: Listening By Numbers 154 Thirdwave 12-Feb-04 17:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 155 Kees 10-Feb-04 15:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 143 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 179 Mark Staab 11-Feb-04 06:08
Work work work 158 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 143 David L 10-Feb-04 19:24
Books 152 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Books 147 David L 10-Feb-04 23:44
Teachers 154 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 02:08
Re: Teachers 142 David L 11-Feb-04 03:07
Re: Teachers 161 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:16
Re: Teachers 148 David L 11-Feb-04 17:47
The yoga of sound 167 Kees 11-Feb-04 21:55
Re: The yoga of sound 147 David L 11-Feb-04 22:07
Small world indeed 148 Kees 11-Feb-04 22:42
Re: Teachers 152 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 23:24
Re: Teachers 148 David L 12-Feb-04 01:49
Spirtual arrogance and delusion 160 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 02:18
An apology 147 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 12:34
Re: An apology 146 fisherman 12-Feb-04 16:11
Re: An apology 171 David L 12-Feb-04 19:46
The wheel of life. 152 Richard Fusniak 13-Feb-04 01:32
The Catapillar and the Butterfly 156 Milo 13-Feb-04 01:35
Re: The Catapillar and the Butterfly 326 David L 13-Feb-04 02:52
Re: The wheel of life. 144 David L 13-Feb-04 02:50
Re: Teachers 150 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 03:19
Re: Teachers 153 David L 11-Feb-04 17:48
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