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One thing about my personality is that I can see these connections really clearly, but other people have trouble understanding what I am talking about, so I'll start off with this post explaining my opinion on the origin of a human perspective of music.

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I can think of many connections with the notion of synchronicity and the collective consciousness when it comes to music. The very notion of music itself is conceived of as mere sounds, however, without thought, there is only music. Here's what Edgar Allen Poe had to say:

"SHADOWS OF shadows passing. It is now 1831, and as always I am absorbed with a delicate thought. It is how poetry has indefinite sensations, to which end music is inessential. Since the comprehension of sweet sound is our most indefinite conception, music, when combined with a pleasurable idea, is poetry. Music without the idea is simply music. Without music or an intriguing idea, colour becomes pallor, man becomes carcase, home becomes catacomb, and the dead are but for a moment motionless."

So Poe understands that music without an idea is simply music. But when thought is combined with the music, well, that's where the indefinite come in. Very interesting stuff.

When we think about classical music and refined or ancient musical techniqe, we don't assume that it suddenly sprung from nothing. It was indeed a learning process. Beethoven, Bach and Mozart wrote their music inspired by their surroundings and emotions, so right here we see that there is something more to music than just straight sound. But we find music in nature; birds singing, rivers rushing and trees swaying in the wind - in essence, the music of the spheres, transcended into elemental vibrations, on planet earth. But no more is human made sound just primitive grunting and growls. It has matured and manifested itself into the creation of all music we hear and this is an important theme to remember when dealing with synchronicity.

Jeremy

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Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 321 Jergat 09-Feb-04 08:32
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Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 82 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 00:59
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 77 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 67 Jergat 10-Feb-04 05:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 129 Briffits 10-Feb-04 09:27
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 95 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 92 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 78 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:11
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 76 David L 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 67 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 72 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 18:43
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 67 Briffits 10-Feb-04 22:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 79 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 80 Briffits 11-Feb-04 00:03
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 75 Milo 11-Feb-04 00:07
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 76 Briffits 11-Feb-04 10:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 77 Milo 11-Feb-04 15:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 70 Briffits 11-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 69 Milo 11-Feb-04 23:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 72 Briffits 12-Feb-04 00:23
Henceforth and forthwith... 94 Milo 12-Feb-04 00:53
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 72 Milo 11-Feb-04 17:08
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 80 Briffits 11-Feb-04 19:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 70 Milo 11-Feb-04 19:30
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 78 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 14:55
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 81 David L 10-Feb-04 01:23
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 88 Milo 10-Feb-04 02:15
Music from other spheres 92 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:59
Re: Music from other spheres 66 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:11
Possibly wrong again 73 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 03:15
Re: Possibly wrong again 77 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:24
Musical mediums 78 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 12:58
Musical plane 90 Kees 10-Feb-04 13:53
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Re: Musical mediums 74 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:49
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Re: Musical mediums 69 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:25
Re: Musical mediums 79 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:02
Re: Musical mediums 74 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:10
Poo-Pooing "channels" 73 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:19
Re: Poo-Pooing 75 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Possibly wrong again 73 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:49
Talking of Bach.... 76 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 09:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 80 David L 10-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 63 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:58
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 79 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 87 David L 10-Feb-04 18:39
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 74 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 73 David L 10-Feb-04 19:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 75 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:20
Gifts 64 Jergat 10-Feb-04 20:44
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 82 David L 10-Feb-04 23:35
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 123 Saorsa 10-Feb-04 14:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 70 David L 10-Feb-04 19:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 123 Saorsa 11-Feb-04 08:29
Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 91 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 15:05
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 78 David L 10-Feb-04 18:51
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 80 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:04
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 71 David L 10-Feb-04 19:13
Listening By Numbers 97 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Listening By Numbers 74 David L 10-Feb-04 19:19
Re: Listening By Numbers 66 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Listening By Numbers 85 David L 10-Feb-04 23:39
Re: Listening By Numbers 76 Briffits 11-Feb-04 03:11
Re: Listening By Numbers 80 Thirdwave 12-Feb-04 17:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 79 Kees 10-Feb-04 15:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 66 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 103 Mark Staab 11-Feb-04 06:08
Work work work 79 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 68 David L 10-Feb-04 19:24
Books 72 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Books 73 David L 10-Feb-04 23:44
Teachers 78 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 02:08
Re: Teachers 72 David L 11-Feb-04 03:07
Re: Teachers 87 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:16
Re: Teachers 72 David L 11-Feb-04 17:47
The yoga of sound 90 Kees 11-Feb-04 21:55
Re: The yoga of sound 71 David L 11-Feb-04 22:07
Small world indeed 73 Kees 11-Feb-04 22:42
Re: Teachers 73 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 23:24
Re: Teachers 71 David L 12-Feb-04 01:49
Spirtual arrogance and delusion 81 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 02:18
An apology 67 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 12:34
Re: An apology 66 fisherman 12-Feb-04 16:11
Re: An apology 91 David L 12-Feb-04 19:46
The wheel of life. 74 Richard Fusniak 13-Feb-04 01:32
The Catapillar and the Butterfly 79 Milo 13-Feb-04 01:35
Re: The Catapillar and the Butterfly 183 David L 13-Feb-04 02:52
Re: The wheel of life. 67 David L 13-Feb-04 02:50
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