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One thing about my personality is that I can see these connections really clearly, but other people have trouble understanding what I am talking about, so I'll start off with this post explaining my opinion on the origin of a human perspective of music.

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I can think of many connections with the notion of synchronicity and the collective consciousness when it comes to music. The very notion of music itself is conceived of as mere sounds, however, without thought, there is only music. Here's what Edgar Allen Poe had to say:

"SHADOWS OF shadows passing. It is now 1831, and as always I am absorbed with a delicate thought. It is how poetry has indefinite sensations, to which end music is inessential. Since the comprehension of sweet sound is our most indefinite conception, music, when combined with a pleasurable idea, is poetry. Music without the idea is simply music. Without music or an intriguing idea, colour becomes pallor, man becomes carcase, home becomes catacomb, and the dead are but for a moment motionless."

So Poe understands that music without an idea is simply music. But when thought is combined with the music, well, that's where the indefinite come in. Very interesting stuff.

When we think about classical music and refined or ancient musical techniqe, we don't assume that it suddenly sprung from nothing. It was indeed a learning process. Beethoven, Bach and Mozart wrote their music inspired by their surroundings and emotions, so right here we see that there is something more to music than just straight sound. But we find music in nature; birds singing, rivers rushing and trees swaying in the wind - in essence, the music of the spheres, transcended into elemental vibrations, on planet earth. But no more is human made sound just primitive grunting and growls. It has matured and manifested itself into the creation of all music we hear and this is an important theme to remember when dealing with synchronicity.

Jeremy

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Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 342 Jergat 09-Feb-04 08:32
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About the moderation process 90 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:54
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Re: About the moderation process 88 Cleopatra 10-Feb-04 20:10
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 85 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 00:59
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 80 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 72 Jergat 10-Feb-04 05:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 134 Briffits 10-Feb-04 09:27
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 97 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 96 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 83 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:11
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 79 David L 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 69 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 75 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 18:43
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 70 Briffits 10-Feb-04 22:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 82 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 82 Briffits 11-Feb-04 00:03
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 77 Milo 11-Feb-04 00:07
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 79 Briffits 11-Feb-04 10:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 80 Milo 11-Feb-04 15:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 73 Briffits 11-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 73 Milo 11-Feb-04 23:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 76 Briffits 12-Feb-04 00:23
Henceforth and forthwith... 98 Milo 12-Feb-04 00:53
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 75 Milo 11-Feb-04 17:08
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 84 Briffits 11-Feb-04 19:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 73 Milo 11-Feb-04 19:30
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 82 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 14:55
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 84 David L 10-Feb-04 01:23
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 92 Milo 10-Feb-04 02:15
Music from other spheres 95 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:59
Re: Music from other spheres 69 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:11
Possibly wrong again 77 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 03:15
Re: Possibly wrong again 81 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:24
Musical mediums 82 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 12:58
Musical plane 93 Kees 10-Feb-04 13:53
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Re: Musical mediums 77 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:49
Re: Musical mediums 86 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 16:14
Re: Musical mediums 72 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:25
Re: Musical mediums 82 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:02
Re: Musical mediums 76 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:10
Poo-Pooing "channels" 77 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:19
Re: Poo-Pooing 79 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Possibly wrong again 77 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:49
Talking of Bach.... 79 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 09:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 84 David L 10-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 67 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:58
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 83 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 92 David L 10-Feb-04 18:39
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 78 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 76 David L 10-Feb-04 19:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 79 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:20
Gifts 68 Jergat 10-Feb-04 20:44
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 84 David L 10-Feb-04 23:35
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 126 Saorsa 10-Feb-04 14:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 74 David L 10-Feb-04 19:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 127 Saorsa 11-Feb-04 08:29
Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 94 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 15:05
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 81 David L 10-Feb-04 18:51
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 84 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:04
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 75 David L 10-Feb-04 19:13
Listening By Numbers 100 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Listening By Numbers 77 David L 10-Feb-04 19:19
Re: Listening By Numbers 70 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Listening By Numbers 87 David L 10-Feb-04 23:39
Re: Listening By Numbers 79 Briffits 11-Feb-04 03:11
Re: Listening By Numbers 83 Thirdwave 12-Feb-04 17:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 82 Kees 10-Feb-04 15:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 70 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 105 Mark Staab 11-Feb-04 06:08
Work work work 82 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 71 David L 10-Feb-04 19:24
Books 75 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Books 75 David L 10-Feb-04 23:44
Teachers 80 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 02:08
Re: Teachers 75 David L 11-Feb-04 03:07
Re: Teachers 89 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:16
Re: Teachers 75 David L 11-Feb-04 17:47
The yoga of sound 93 Kees 11-Feb-04 21:55
Re: The yoga of sound 75 David L 11-Feb-04 22:07
Small world indeed 76 Kees 11-Feb-04 22:42
Re: Teachers 77 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 23:24
Re: Teachers 74 David L 12-Feb-04 01:49
Spirtual arrogance and delusion 84 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 02:18
An apology 71 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 12:34
Re: An apology 69 fisherman 12-Feb-04 16:11
Re: An apology 94 David L 12-Feb-04 19:46
The wheel of life. 77 Richard Fusniak 13-Feb-04 01:32
The Catapillar and the Butterfly 83 Milo 13-Feb-04 01:35
Re: The Catapillar and the Butterfly 198 David L 13-Feb-04 02:52
Re: The wheel of life. 70 David L 13-Feb-04 02:50
Re: Teachers 73 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 03:19
Re: Teachers 77 David L 11-Feb-04 17:48
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