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One thing about my personality is that I can see these connections really clearly, but other people have trouble understanding what I am talking about, so I'll start off with this post explaining my opinion on the origin of a human perspective of music.

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I can think of many connections with the notion of synchronicity and the collective consciousness when it comes to music. The very notion of music itself is conceived of as mere sounds, however, without thought, there is only music. Here's what Edgar Allen Poe had to say:

"SHADOWS OF shadows passing. It is now 1831, and as always I am absorbed with a delicate thought. It is how poetry has indefinite sensations, to which end music is inessential. Since the comprehension of sweet sound is our most indefinite conception, music, when combined with a pleasurable idea, is poetry. Music without the idea is simply music. Without music or an intriguing idea, colour becomes pallor, man becomes carcase, home becomes catacomb, and the dead are but for a moment motionless."

So Poe understands that music without an idea is simply music. But when thought is combined with the music, well, that's where the indefinite come in. Very interesting stuff.

When we think about classical music and refined or ancient musical techniqe, we don't assume that it suddenly sprung from nothing. It was indeed a learning process. Beethoven, Bach and Mozart wrote their music inspired by their surroundings and emotions, so right here we see that there is something more to music than just straight sound. But we find music in nature; birds singing, rivers rushing and trees swaying in the wind - in essence, the music of the spheres, transcended into elemental vibrations, on planet earth. But no more is human made sound just primitive grunting and growls. It has matured and manifested itself into the creation of all music we hear and this is an important theme to remember when dealing with synchronicity.

Jeremy

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Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 452 Jergat 09-Feb-04 08:32
Moderator note 125 Richard Fusniak 09-Feb-04 19:18
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Re: Moderator note 109 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:23
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Re: Moderator note 111 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:50
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About the moderation process 117 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:54
Re: About the moderation process 103 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:07
Re: About the moderation process 119 Cleopatra 10-Feb-04 20:10
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 111 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 00:59
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 107 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 98 Jergat 10-Feb-04 05:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 168 Briffits 10-Feb-04 09:27
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 123 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 124 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 110 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:11
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 106 David L 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 97 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 119 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 18:43
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 97 Briffits 10-Feb-04 22:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 109 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 109 Briffits 11-Feb-04 00:03
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 104 Milo 11-Feb-04 00:07
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 106 Briffits 11-Feb-04 10:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 107 Milo 11-Feb-04 15:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 102 Briffits 11-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 100 Milo 11-Feb-04 23:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 104 Briffits 12-Feb-04 00:23
Henceforth and forthwith... 122 Milo 12-Feb-04 00:53
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 103 Milo 11-Feb-04 17:08
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 111 Briffits 11-Feb-04 19:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 100 Milo 11-Feb-04 19:30
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 111 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 14:55
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 111 David L 10-Feb-04 01:23
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 119 Milo 10-Feb-04 02:15
Music from other spheres 122 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:59
Re: Music from other spheres 96 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:11
Possibly wrong again 107 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 03:15
Re: Possibly wrong again 109 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:24
Musical mediums 110 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 12:58
Musical plane 121 Kees 10-Feb-04 13:53
Re: Musical plane 106 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:48
Re: Musical plane 112 Kees 10-Feb-04 16:10
Re: Musical mediums 105 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:49
Re: Musical mediums 115 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 16:14
Re: Musical mediums 100 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:25
Re: Musical mediums 111 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:02
Re: Musical mediums 101 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:10
Poo-Pooing "channels" 104 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:19
Re: Poo-Pooing 106 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Possibly wrong again 105 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:49
Talking of Bach.... 107 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 09:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 111 David L 10-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 92 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:58
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 110 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 119 David L 10-Feb-04 18:39
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 106 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 105 David L 10-Feb-04 19:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 106 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:20
Gifts 96 Jergat 10-Feb-04 20:44
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 111 David L 10-Feb-04 23:35
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 155 Saorsa 10-Feb-04 14:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 100 David L 10-Feb-04 19:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 156 Saorsa 11-Feb-04 08:29
Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 124 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 15:05
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 109 David L 10-Feb-04 18:51
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 113 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:04
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 101 David L 10-Feb-04 19:13
Listening By Numbers 128 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Listening By Numbers 106 David L 10-Feb-04 19:19
Re: Listening By Numbers 97 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Listening By Numbers 114 David L 10-Feb-04 23:39
Re: Listening By Numbers 106 Briffits 11-Feb-04 03:11
Re: Listening By Numbers 110 Thirdwave 12-Feb-04 17:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 110 Kees 10-Feb-04 15:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 98 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 133 Mark Staab 11-Feb-04 06:08
Work work work 110 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 98 David L 10-Feb-04 19:24
Books 102 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Books 102 David L 10-Feb-04 23:44
Teachers 107 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 02:08
Re: Teachers 102 David L 11-Feb-04 03:07
Re: Teachers 116 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:16
Re: Teachers 104 David L 11-Feb-04 17:47
The yoga of sound 119 Kees 11-Feb-04 21:55
Re: The yoga of sound 102 David L 11-Feb-04 22:07
Small world indeed 102 Kees 11-Feb-04 22:42
Re: Teachers 105 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 23:24
Re: Teachers 103 David L 12-Feb-04 01:49
Spirtual arrogance and delusion 111 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 02:18
An apology 97 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 12:34
Re: An apology 96 fisherman 12-Feb-04 16:11
Re: An apology 122 David L 12-Feb-04 19:46
The wheel of life. 107 Richard Fusniak 13-Feb-04 01:32
The Catapillar and the Butterfly 110 Milo 13-Feb-04 01:35
Re: The Catapillar and the Butterfly 260 David L 13-Feb-04 02:52
Re: The wheel of life. 97 David L 13-Feb-04 02:50
Re: Teachers 100 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 03:19
Re: Teachers 104 David L 11-Feb-04 17:48
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