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One thing about my personality is that I can see these connections really clearly, but other people have trouble understanding what I am talking about, so I'll start off with this post explaining my opinion on the origin of a human perspective of music.

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I can think of many connections with the notion of synchronicity and the collective consciousness when it comes to music. The very notion of music itself is conceived of as mere sounds, however, without thought, there is only music. Here's what Edgar Allen Poe had to say:

"SHADOWS OF shadows passing. It is now 1831, and as always I am absorbed with a delicate thought. It is how poetry has indefinite sensations, to which end music is inessential. Since the comprehension of sweet sound is our most indefinite conception, music, when combined with a pleasurable idea, is poetry. Music without the idea is simply music. Without music or an intriguing idea, colour becomes pallor, man becomes carcase, home becomes catacomb, and the dead are but for a moment motionless."

So Poe understands that music without an idea is simply music. But when thought is combined with the music, well, that's where the indefinite come in. Very interesting stuff.

When we think about classical music and refined or ancient musical techniqe, we don't assume that it suddenly sprung from nothing. It was indeed a learning process. Beethoven, Bach and Mozart wrote their music inspired by their surroundings and emotions, so right here we see that there is something more to music than just straight sound. But we find music in nature; birds singing, rivers rushing and trees swaying in the wind - in essence, the music of the spheres, transcended into elemental vibrations, on planet earth. But no more is human made sound just primitive grunting and growls. It has matured and manifested itself into the creation of all music we hear and this is an important theme to remember when dealing with synchronicity.

Jeremy

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Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 402 Jergat 09-Feb-04 08:32
Moderator note 112 Richard Fusniak 09-Feb-04 19:18
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Re: Moderator note 96 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:23
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About the moderation process 105 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:54
Re: About the moderation process 90 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:07
Re: About the moderation process 107 Cleopatra 10-Feb-04 20:10
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 99 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 00:59
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 95 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 86 Jergat 10-Feb-04 05:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 155 Briffits 10-Feb-04 09:27
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 111 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 112 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 97 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:11
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 94 David L 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 84 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 102 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 18:43
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 85 Briffits 10-Feb-04 22:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 97 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 97 Briffits 11-Feb-04 00:03
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 92 Milo 11-Feb-04 00:07
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 94 Briffits 11-Feb-04 10:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 95 Milo 11-Feb-04 15:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 89 Briffits 11-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 88 Milo 11-Feb-04 23:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 91 Briffits 12-Feb-04 00:23
Henceforth and forthwith... 111 Milo 12-Feb-04 00:53
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 90 Milo 11-Feb-04 17:08
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 99 Briffits 11-Feb-04 19:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 88 Milo 11-Feb-04 19:30
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 98 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 14:55
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 99 David L 10-Feb-04 01:23
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 107 Milo 10-Feb-04 02:15
Music from other spheres 110 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:59
Re: Music from other spheres 84 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:11
Possibly wrong again 93 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 03:15
Re: Possibly wrong again 96 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:24
Musical mediums 97 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 12:58
Musical plane 108 Kees 10-Feb-04 13:53
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Re: Musical plane 99 Kees 10-Feb-04 16:10
Re: Musical mediums 92 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:49
Re: Musical mediums 102 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 16:14
Re: Musical mediums 88 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:25
Re: Musical mediums 98 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:02
Re: Musical mediums 89 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:10
Poo-Pooing "channels" 91 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:19
Re: Poo-Pooing 94 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Possibly wrong again 92 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:49
Talking of Bach.... 94 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 09:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 99 David L 10-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 80 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:58
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 98 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 107 David L 10-Feb-04 18:39
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 94 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 92 David L 10-Feb-04 19:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 93 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:20
Gifts 82 Jergat 10-Feb-04 20:44
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 99 David L 10-Feb-04 23:35
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 142 Saorsa 10-Feb-04 14:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 88 David L 10-Feb-04 19:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 144 Saorsa 11-Feb-04 08:29
Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 110 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 15:05
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 96 David L 10-Feb-04 18:51
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 100 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:04
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 90 David L 10-Feb-04 19:13
Listening By Numbers 115 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Listening By Numbers 93 David L 10-Feb-04 19:19
Re: Listening By Numbers 84 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Listening By Numbers 102 David L 10-Feb-04 23:39
Re: Listening By Numbers 94 Briffits 11-Feb-04 03:11
Re: Listening By Numbers 98 Thirdwave 12-Feb-04 17:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 97 Kees 10-Feb-04 15:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 86 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 120 Mark Staab 11-Feb-04 06:08
Work work work 98 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 86 David L 10-Feb-04 19:24
Books 90 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Books 90 David L 10-Feb-04 23:44
Teachers 95 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 02:08
Re: Teachers 90 David L 11-Feb-04 03:07
Re: Teachers 104 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:16
Re: Teachers 91 David L 11-Feb-04 17:47
The yoga of sound 107 Kees 11-Feb-04 21:55
Re: The yoga of sound 90 David L 11-Feb-04 22:07
Small world indeed 90 Kees 11-Feb-04 22:42
Re: Teachers 91 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 23:24
Re: Teachers 90 David L 12-Feb-04 01:49
Spirtual arrogance and delusion 99 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 02:18
An apology 85 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 12:34
Re: An apology 84 fisherman 12-Feb-04 16:11
Re: An apology 109 David L 12-Feb-04 19:46
The wheel of life. 93 Richard Fusniak 13-Feb-04 01:32
The Catapillar and the Butterfly 98 Milo 13-Feb-04 01:35
Re: The Catapillar and the Butterfly 229 David L 13-Feb-04 02:52
Re: The wheel of life. 85 David L 13-Feb-04 02:50
Re: Teachers 88 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 03:19
Re: Teachers 92 David L 11-Feb-04 17:48
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