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Hi all,

I have this largely non provable idea about the possible larger picture containing the origin of western, Christian religion.

Try to imagine a time long before civilisation (according to the scientific definition that is) was present. Maybe our ancestors where of a unity with the cosmos and each other that made any need for symbols and/or rituals obsolete. They (we) simply were all that was to be.

During our further development the connection with, and understanding of, the material world grew. This could have led to a spiritual devolution.

We have this mechanism of elders who tend to write things down, or express knowledge in symbols, when it is noticeable to them that a certain general capability is on its way out. We can see plenty of examples in almost every area of human endeavour over this. Elders tend to preserve knowledge on its way out, not on its way in.

So it can therefore be constructed that these elders started to create the first symbols and rituals to preserve what was slowly escaping us.

My guess is that these first symbols and rituals where all star/sun/moon/planet based servicing our then fresh need (fresh as in opposed to “was not needed before”) to reconnect and express our role and/or part in the cosmos. This could have been the blue print of all the star based religions we see emerging later on all around the world.

Focussing on the AE variant of this, we see a lot of examples in their deities, temple complexes and so on.

The story of Moses could very well be symbolic of the fact that the early Jewish faith as expressed in the Torah and Kabala is the closest to the star based AE version we have.

Taking into account that Christianity branched off from there it can be suggested that the actual core of Christianity is also star based. (Christ being born on the winter solstice does reminds us of Osiris !!)

During the 2000 year of suppression one can ask, what was suppressed?
What was the role of all these so called secret societies in these matters?
Where are we now?

Again, much of the above is speculation but still I find this prospect very appealing.

Please let me hear your thoughts on this.

Regards,

Kees

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The origin of Christian religion 520 Kees 06-Feb-04 16:28
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Re: The origin of Christian religion 136 Kees 06-Feb-04 22:57
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Ezekiel's Wheel 143 maria k. 07-Feb-04 04:32
The Four Beasts 138 Milo 07-Feb-04 05:06
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Hidden Meanings 156 Elizabeth Newton 08-Feb-04 07:17
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Re: Hidden Meanings 218 Laird Scranton 08-Feb-04 16:59
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Re: Hidden Meanings 208 Laird Scranton 09-Feb-04 02:40
Re: Hidden Meanings 138 Mark Staab 09-Feb-04 07:42
Re: Hidden Meanings 202 Laird Scranton 09-Feb-04 21:26
Re: Hidden Meanings 155 Jaimi 10-Feb-04 04:18
Re: Hidden Meanings 190 Laird Scranton 10-Feb-04 22:24
Re: The Four Beasts 160 Lee McGiffen 07-Feb-04 12:02
Re: The origin of Christian religion 135 Mark Staab 08-Feb-04 01:19
Re: The origin of Christian religion 134 maria k. 08-Feb-04 21:02
Re: The origin of Christian religion 176 Kees 08-Feb-04 22:04
Re: The origin of Christian religion 123 Mark Staab 09-Feb-04 08:48
the bible's "written word" 153 maria k. 09-Feb-04 20:50
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What use is the bible? 183 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 23:06
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Re: What use is the bible? 141 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 23:59
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I forgot to comment on.... 165 Milo 12-Feb-04 00:25
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Thanks Fuzzy! 135 maria k. 11-Feb-04 05:04
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Re: The origin of Christian religion 131 Kees 07-Feb-04 11:23
Re: The origin of Christian religion 148 Mark Staab 08-Feb-04 01:34
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