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> On the one hand, you tell me to "let it be". Then you ask me why I say
> we must be initiated while in the human form in order to go back to God
> once and for all...

So, what is there for you after "once and for all"!? I suppose that you are looking for some sort of closure! Unless you are talking about the fairy tale ending that says: and they lived happily together forever after, or something like that!!!

> I have said here many times that all adepts have given this teaching--
> from Jesus to my own teacher, and all true adepts in between and
> before Jesus...

So, you are putting your own teacher apar with Jesus or something like that!? Or are there now, may I ask, any other true adepts after Jesus!?

> This is a rule for all those souls who incarnate on the
> physical plane.

Who came up with this rule?

> This is why all the talk about the human form being "higher than the
> angels", Because ONLY FROM THIS FORM can we become "perfect"--as
> Jesus said we must become.

Who is having all this talk?

> He was talking about becoming what is known in the east as a "perfect
> master" or adept. Because that's what these people do--they make
> other people perfect...that's their job.

I suppose that this is probably why you are projecting your own personal reality into others! You believe this to be your job!

> So he was saying that as great as his initiator John was, anyone else
> has the potential to become even greater...

I suppose that is why all rules (records) are suppose to eventually be broken! Like in the Olympic games! Isn't this also why things are relative!!??

> One more thing...this teaching applies to this age, this yuga, mainly
> because of the short life span and because well, it's physical--whereas
> the higher ages are not--not like it is here.

and it is even shorter when one takes into account that one spends almost half of one's life sleeping (in their unique inner space dimension!)...

-wirelessguru1

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Questions about Truth 722 adequatedane 24-Jan-04 10:24
Re: Questions about Truth 171 Segestan 24-Jan-04 14:00
Re: Questions about Truth 163 adequatedane 25-Jan-04 08:38
Re: Questions about Truth 204 gene douglas 24-Jan-04 14:57
Re: Questions about Truth 170 Alex S 25-Jan-04 01:13
Re: Questions about Truth 170 gene douglas 25-Jan-04 04:04
Re: Questions about Truth 179 Alex S 26-Jan-04 01:18
Re: Questions about Truth 189 gene douglas 26-Jan-04 02:14
Re: Questions about Truth 172 Alex S 27-Jan-04 01:57
Re: Questions about Truth 167 gene douglas 27-Jan-04 09:44
Re: Questions about Truth 158 adequatedane 25-Jan-04 08:34
Re: Questions about Truth 187 adequatedane 25-Jan-04 08:42
Re: Questions about Truth 176 gene douglas 25-Jan-04 10:05
Re: Questions about Truth 172 adequatedane 25-Jan-04 11:21
Re: Questions about Truth 164 gene douglas 25-Jan-04 15:40
Re: Questions about Truth 183 gene douglas 25-Jan-04 16:14
Re: Questions about Truth 172 adequatedane 25-Jan-04 17:06
Re: Questions about Truth 160 gene douglas 25-Jan-04 21:51
Re: Questions about Truth 176 adequatedane 26-Jan-04 22:50
Re: Questions about Truth 163 David L 24-Jan-04 15:55
Re: Questions about Truth 159 newrisingsun 24-Jan-04 17:32
Re: Questions about Truth 172 RichardC 24-Jan-04 23:40
Re: Questions about Truth 188 David L 25-Jan-04 03:46
Re: Questions about Truth 166 RichardC 25-Jan-04 19:45
Re: Questions about Truth 173 David L 25-Jan-04 20:49
Re: Questions about Truth 190 adequatedane 25-Jan-04 09:37
Re: Questions about Truth 168 David L 25-Jan-04 17:31
Re: Questions about Truth 157 adequatedane 26-Jan-04 22:55
Re: Questions about Truth 177 adequatedane 28-Jan-04 23:04
Re: Questions about Truth 154 David L 28-Jan-04 23:28
Re: Questions about Truth 159 adequatedane 29-Jan-04 23:01
Re: Questions about Truth 166 wirelessguru1 29-Jan-04 23:26
Re: Questions about Truth 178 David L 30-Jan-04 03:24
Re: Questions about Truth 184 wirelessguru1 30-Jan-04 03:48
Re: Questions about Truth 192 David L 30-Jan-04 22:32
Re: Questions about Truth 162 wirelessguru1 31-Jan-04 00:30
Re: Questions about Truth 160 adequatedane 30-Jan-04 21:01
Re: Questions about Truth 178 David L 30-Jan-04 22:24
Re: Questions about Truth 159 banah 31-Jan-04 09:13
Re: Questions about Truth 162 David L 31-Jan-04 14:20
Re: Questions about Truth 186 banah 31-Jan-04 20:20
Re: Questions about Truth 172 David L 01-Feb-04 01:59
Jesus didn't say anything of the sort 161 Richard Fusniak 01-Feb-04 14:28
Re: Jesus didn't say anything of the sort 216 banah 01-Feb-04 17:21
Re: Questions about Truth 162 Zurg 03-Feb-04 08:12
Re: Questions about Truth 155 banah 04-Feb-04 10:58
Re: Questions about Truth 188 adequatedane 31-Jan-04 10:17
Re: Questions about Truth 170 banah 31-Jan-04 09:20
Re: Questions about Truth 186 David L 30-Jan-04 03:26
We don't live in a "true or false" world... 166 David L 30-Jan-04 03:30
Re: We don't live in a "true or false" world... 178 banah 31-Jan-04 09:27
Re: We don't live in a "true or false" world... 168 adequatedane 31-Jan-04 10:53
Re: We don't live in a "true or false" world... 159 David L 31-Jan-04 13:38
Re: We don't live in a "true or false" world... 167 banah 31-Jan-04 20:47
Re: Questions about Truth 145 RichardC 24-Jan-04 23:50
Re: Questions about Truth 204 adequatedane 25-Jan-04 09:48
Re: Questions about Truth 192 RichardC 25-Jan-04 19:49
Re: Questions about Truth 177 adequatedane 26-Jan-04 23:00
Re: Questions about Truth 200 RichardC 26-Jan-04 23:32
Re: Questions about Truth 177 banah 25-Jan-04 17:56
Re: Questions about Truth 166 adequatedane 26-Jan-04 23:24
No such thing 176 Nejc 25-Jan-04 23:13
Re: No such thing 182 adequatedane 26-Jan-04 23:40
Re: No such thing 163 Alex S 27-Jan-04 14:13
Re: No such thing 165 gene douglas 27-Jan-04 19:01
Re: Questions about Truth 180 Mark Staab 25-Jan-04 23:35
Re: Questions about Truth 168 adequatedane 27-Jan-04 00:15
Re: Questions about Truth 171 Mark Staab 27-Jan-04 02:00
Re: Questions about Truth 168 adequatedane 27-Jan-04 22:40
Re: Questions about Truth 181 banah 30-Jan-04 19:40
Re: Questions about Truth 160 Mark Staab 30-Jan-04 22:22
Re: Questions about Truth 175 banah 31-Jan-04 11:05
Re: Questions about Truth 210 Mark Staab 01-Feb-04 06:33
Re: Questions about Truth 206 banah 01-Feb-04 11:48
Re: Questions about Truth 170 adequatedane 01-Feb-04 16:06
Re: Questions about Truth 156 banah 01-Feb-04 17:25
Re: Questions about Truth 178 adequatedane 02-Feb-04 23:58
Re: Questions about Truth 178 banah 04-Feb-04 11:04
Re: Questions about Truth 172 adequatedane 05-Feb-04 22:26
Re: Questions about Truth 155 banah 07-Feb-04 13:19
Re: Questions about Truth 191 adequatedane 07-Feb-04 14:47
Re: ps 165 banah 01-Feb-04 17:29
Re: Questions about Truth 160 Mark Staab 01-Feb-04 23:42
Re: Questions about Truth 157 banah 04-Feb-04 11:07
Tree of knowledge is the kundalini shakti 181 David L 01-Feb-04 21:33
Re: Tree of knowledge is the kundalini shakti 187 Mark Staab 02-Feb-04 02:09
Re: Tree of knowledge is the kundalini shakti 218 David L 02-Feb-04 23:50
Re: Tree of knowledge is the kundalini shakti 167 Mark Staab 03-Feb-04 05:57
Re: Tree of knowledge is the kundalini shakti 198 David L 03-Feb-04 16:11
Regarding the Old Testament... 156 David L 03-Feb-04 16:19
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 171 banah 04-Feb-04 10:45
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 154 David L 04-Feb-04 13:49
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 176 Mark Staab 05-Feb-04 00:38
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 154 David L 05-Feb-04 01:07
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 183 banah 05-Feb-04 16:48
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 178 David L 05-Feb-04 19:51
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 168 wirelessguru1 06-Feb-04 00:50
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 194 David L 06-Feb-04 01:49
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 177 wirelessguru1 06-Feb-04 02:24
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 155 Anne-Marie 06-Feb-04 07:36
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 175 adequatedane 06-Feb-04 14:09
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 167 David L 06-Feb-04 18:37
Who speaks the truth... 186 wirelessguru1 07-Feb-04 01:37
Re: Who speaks the truth... 181 David L 07-Feb-04 06:12
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 177 banah 07-Feb-04 13:05
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 196 David L 07-Feb-04 15:49
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 175 Anne-Marie 06-Feb-04 07:22
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 159 wirelessguru1 07-Feb-04 02:28
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 177 Anne-Marie 07-Feb-04 08:19
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 153 banah 07-Feb-04 13:13
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 175 David L 07-Feb-04 16:17
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 170 Cesar 07-Feb-04 17:22
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 214 David L 07-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 168 Anne-Marie 07-Feb-04 19:59
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 181 David L 07-Feb-04 22:01
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 185 wirelessguru1 08-Feb-04 19:23
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 176 Anne-Marie 08-Feb-04 20:18
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 516 wirelessguru1 08-Feb-04 21:08
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 162 Cesar 08-Feb-04 18:31
Re: Regarding the Old Testament... 160 David L 08-Feb-04 19:15
Re: Questions about Truth 180 Caduceus 27-Jan-04 01:32
Re: Questions about Truth 182 adequatedane 27-Jan-04 22:49
Re: Questions about Truth 169 Caduceus 29-Jan-04 04:12
Re: Questions about Truth 180 xiang 27-Jan-04 03:16
Re: Questions about Truth 164 Caduceus 27-Jan-04 10:53
Re: Questions about Truth 192 wirelessguru1 27-Jan-04 17:49
Re: Questions about Truth 161 adequatedane 27-Jan-04 22:13
Re: Questions about Truth 173 wirelessguru1 27-Jan-04 22:28
Re: Questions about Truth 160 adequatedane 27-Jan-04 23:16
Re: Questions about Truth 198 wirelessguru1 28-Jan-04 00:04
Re: Questions about Truth 182 adequatedane 28-Jan-04 21:32
Re: Questions about Truth 169 xiang 28-Jan-04 01:50
Re: Questions about Truth 179 adequatedane 28-Jan-04 21:55
Re: Questions about Truth 174 wirelessguru1 27-Jan-04 07:57
Re: Questions about Truth 165 adequatedane 27-Jan-04 23:24
Re: Questions about Truth 155 wirelessguru1 28-Jan-04 00:24
Re: Questions about Truth 163 adequatedane 28-Jan-04 22:22
Re: Questions about Truth 147 wirelessguru1 29-Jan-04 01:03
Re: Questions about Truth 150 adequatedane 29-Jan-04 23:35
Re: Questions about Truth 166 wirelessguru1 29-Jan-04 23:56
Re: Questions about Truth 186 adequatedane 30-Jan-04 02:19
Re: Questions about Truth 169 wirelessguru1 30-Jan-04 03:15
Re: Questions about Truth 155 adequatedane 30-Jan-04 21:32
Re: Questions about Truth 175 wirelessguru1 31-Jan-04 01:04
Re: Questions about Truth 185 adequatedane 31-Jan-04 09:23
Re: Questions about Truth 165 wirelessguru1 31-Jan-04 19:33
Re: Questions about Truth 183 Zurg 30-Jan-04 13:19
Re: Questions about Truth 164 adequatedane 30-Jan-04 22:07
Re: Questions about Truth 172 Dominick Ohrbeck 30-Jan-04 21:39
Re: Questions about Truth 163 adequatedane 31-Jan-04 10:47
Re: Questions about Truth 165 Cesar 08-Feb-04 11:51


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