> IMHO there is more mumbo jumbo than worthwhile info in other
> sources regarding spiritual matter.... but that's my opinion.
> Many of them do however talk about a tree of life.... It was
> the Jewish mystics (Kabbalists) who turned the door into a
> tree, if the door is not a tree, but a door, it is worthwhile
> to know how it opens and closes.... once again my opinion.
The door is eye-center. The mystic threshhold. "Tisra Til", The Tenth Gate.
(the other 9 being the orifices of the physical body)
> >>This is a different age, and we
> don't worry about secrecy and persecution,
> I'm not sure what you are referring to here? Who's worried
> about secrecy? Who's persecuted? Anyway.......
I was referring to the days in which the OT was slapped together. I'm referring to the Kabbalah. The whole notion of "encoding"... Libraries were burned, books were burned, people were burned...all over secrecy and persecution. There is no need for it in this day and age. And by "age" I was not speaking of yuga. There are cycles with in cycles within cycles... I was speaking of the 20th century and the present millennium
> >>or decoding dusty old books.
> Someone has decoded your dusty old books ... are you so sure
> they have been decoded right? I certainly know that the OT is
> badly mutilated by subjective translation, which is why it
> needs to be "decoded" to find the truth...... is it a tree
> or is it a door?
My knowledge does not come from books but from experience and a living adept. I use books to illustrate a point--to show that long gone mystics have experienced the same things I'm talking about. I'm perfectly content to toss the books and speak straight out about what I know. But people always want "back up". Validation. After all, it couldn't possibly be true simply because I say I know it, or have experienced it... But some dusty old book says the same thing, well hey--that's OK then.
> >>There really is no point in trying to justify or validate
> your seeking by
> trying to make Truth conform the to the OT.
> I thought you said truth is an illusion :
I believe I said truth is relative, until one goes beyond Mind. Not illusion-relative. Shades of gray...
> and you said:
> >>we must play
> the cards as they appear to be and make the right
> choices--that is choices
> that lead to spirititual growth. But that's yet another
> paradox, because
> everything leas to growth eventually.
> So whatever we do, we are growing spiritually - aren't
> we........even decoding dusty old books!
Yes. We are all going through what we must go through. But that doesn't mean I can't suggest something that might get one "there" sooner.
> In fact, it seems that your version of things can simply make
> and break it's own rules as you go along, to "justify or
> validate your seeking by trying to make Truth conform " to it.
> I am not harmed by Truth and do not fear it. In fact this is
> what I seek most. I don't need anybody to lie to me to spare
> my feelings, I am quite capable of deeling with reality here
> and now and not in some future Nirvana. But that's just me
> and thank Goodness that we don't all have to be "Smith's" so
> you can be you as well and we can discuss things without
> insult or taking offense.
I was not referring to lying about spirituality, but more mundane matters.
Truth is not absolute on this plane. There are higher truths that trump little white lies told to spare someone hurt. Be careful of getting hung up on truth or reading too much into a white lie. Like in medicine, the first rule is "do no harm."
All the best,