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Hi David,

Once again I find contradiction in your ideas... in other posts you claim that Jesus is a great "mystic" teacher. Jesus said this:

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. {of his own: or, from his own will or disposition}

but you say this:

>>My teacher also teaches that cruelty is the greatest sin. So therefore, a white lie that can save someone needless pain, is a means to a worthy end. It is not control, anymore than withholding truth on a "need to know" basis is control. What I know is my truth to dispense as I see fit.

Jesus:When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. {of his own: or, from his own will or disposition}

David:>>What I know is my truth to dispense as I see fit.

Sounds to me that Jesus was referring to liars who see fit to withold truth as sons of the devil............

Bolessings
Banah

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