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Hi Dane,

With respect, the examples of universal truths that you suggest are simply observations, and as such, they have very little to do with TRUTH.

Truth is simply that which remains- after all artifice, all contrivance, all attempts to prise its virginal legs open- still intact, still undefiled; unchanging, impermeable, indivisible..,the bedrock matrix from which all existence flows in its infinite variety....; more simply, truth is what underlies the appearance of things...truth is 'what is'.

But..., for the sake of argument- which is afterall what we're all indulging ourselves with here- one could suggest:
there is a distinction between TRUTH..., and 'A TRUTH'.
Which is to say, we do as sentient beings accept the appearance of truth in modified form- something called gravity causes apples to fall back onto the earth instead of spiralling gloriously into the far reaches of the universe. But this is in the nature of a compromise- we sort of have to accept token 'rules of the road' in order to prevent the whole system from crashing in a screaming heap around our ears....., despite the fact that we have no idea what this thing called 'gravity' really is.

So, there's really no harm in conjectures of this sort Dane..., it helps pass the time and sometimes lasting relationships are formed by our mutual speculations...., but it is not the avenue through which to pursue such an elusive entity- reminiscent of those sub-atomic particles which are transformed merely by the intrusion of our observation..., as truth.

TRUTH is all around us; truth is everywhere...it is only our assurance, our sense of self-importance that prevents us from enjoying it.

cheers,

XI

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Re: Questions about Truth 156 Alex S 26-Jan-04 01:18
Re: Questions about Truth 167 gene douglas 26-Jan-04 02:14
Re: Questions about Truth 153 Alex S 27-Jan-04 01:57
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Re: Questions about Truth 138 gene douglas 25-Jan-04 21:51
Re: Questions about Truth 151 adequatedane 26-Jan-04 22:50
Re: Questions about Truth 143 David L 24-Jan-04 15:55
Re: Questions about Truth 136 newrisingsun 24-Jan-04 17:32
Re: Questions about Truth 152 RichardC 24-Jan-04 23:40
Re: Questions about Truth 170 David L 25-Jan-04 03:46
Re: Questions about Truth 144 RichardC 25-Jan-04 19:45
Re: Questions about Truth 152 David L 25-Jan-04 20:49
Re: Questions about Truth 169 adequatedane 25-Jan-04 09:37
Re: Questions about Truth 148 David L 25-Jan-04 17:31
Re: Questions about Truth 139 adequatedane 26-Jan-04 22:55
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Re: Questions about Truth 131 David L 28-Jan-04 23:28
Re: Questions about Truth 138 adequatedane 29-Jan-04 23:01
Re: Questions about Truth 145 wirelessguru1 29-Jan-04 23:26
Re: Questions about Truth 156 David L 30-Jan-04 03:24
Re: Questions about Truth 163 wirelessguru1 30-Jan-04 03:48
Re: Questions about Truth 172 David L 30-Jan-04 22:32
Re: Questions about Truth 138 wirelessguru1 31-Jan-04 00:30
Re: Questions about Truth 139 adequatedane 30-Jan-04 21:01
Re: Questions about Truth 157 David L 30-Jan-04 22:24
Re: Questions about Truth 138 banah 31-Jan-04 09:13
Re: Questions about Truth 142 David L 31-Jan-04 14:20
Re: Questions about Truth 163 banah 31-Jan-04 20:20
Re: Questions about Truth 150 David L 01-Feb-04 01:59
Jesus didn't say anything of the sort 138 Richard Fusniak 01-Feb-04 14:28
Re: Jesus didn't say anything of the sort 190 banah 01-Feb-04 17:21
Re: Questions about Truth 141 Zurg 03-Feb-04 08:12
Re: Questions about Truth 136 banah 04-Feb-04 10:58
Re: Questions about Truth 167 adequatedane 31-Jan-04 10:17
Re: Questions about Truth 149 banah 31-Jan-04 09:20
Re: Questions about Truth 165 David L 30-Jan-04 03:26
We don't live in a "true or false" world... 144 David L 30-Jan-04 03:30
Re: We don't live in a "true or false" world... 159 banah 31-Jan-04 09:27
Re: We don't live in a "true or false" world... 146 adequatedane 31-Jan-04 10:53
Re: We don't live in a "true or false" world... 140 David L 31-Jan-04 13:38
Re: We don't live in a "true or false" world... 147 banah 31-Jan-04 20:47
Re: Questions about Truth 125 RichardC 24-Jan-04 23:50
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Re: Questions about Truth 162 RichardC 25-Jan-04 19:49
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Re: Questions about Truth 158 banah 25-Jan-04 17:56
Re: Questions about Truth 146 adequatedane 26-Jan-04 23:24
No such thing 157 Nejc 25-Jan-04 23:13
Re: No such thing 160 adequatedane 26-Jan-04 23:40
Re: No such thing 141 Alex S 27-Jan-04 14:13
Re: No such thing 144 gene douglas 27-Jan-04 19:01
Re: Questions about Truth 161 Mark Staab 25-Jan-04 23:35
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Re: Questions about Truth 149 Mark Staab 27-Jan-04 02:00
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Re: Questions about Truth 161 banah 30-Jan-04 19:40
Re: Questions about Truth 141 Mark Staab 30-Jan-04 22:22
Re: Questions about Truth 153 banah 31-Jan-04 11:05
Re: Questions about Truth 189 Mark Staab 01-Feb-04 06:33
Re: Questions about Truth 181 banah 01-Feb-04 11:48
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Re: ps 144 banah 01-Feb-04 17:29
Re: Questions about Truth 139 Mark Staab 01-Feb-04 23:42
Re: Questions about Truth 136 banah 04-Feb-04 11:07
Tree of knowledge is the kundalini shakti 162 David L 01-Feb-04 21:33
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Re: Tree of knowledge is the kundalini shakti 179 David L 03-Feb-04 16:11
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