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I'm a
> little confused here. Are you commenting about 2 loves;one
> real and the other mystical or writting about 1 love having 2
> parts?

I'm only commenting about true love, which is mystical, and that it has nothing to do with our wants or desires for our self--only for the beloved.
And you are right about expectations--they have nothing to do with Love.
There are degrees of intensity of love--it can be so intense that one doesn't think one can go on anymore in a separated state:

"The fire of separation is burning my body and my whole being is restless. The soul has left the body and is completely merged in her Lord. The angel of death comes but does not find the soul and goes away. Kabir,
the lover, cries out: O Lord listen to my message. Come at once and meet me, otherwise I shall give up my life! Either bring death to my body if it is to be separated from thee, or give me your darshan.(show yourself to me) I am unable to bear this pain of separation and longer. My eyes have become two cups, waiting for the elixer of your Darshan.
Kabir

This may seem over the top, but I can tell you from experience it happens.

All love is from the same Source. There is only one kind of love, but in varying intensity. Humans try to pigeon-hole love into categories--for a child, for a pet, for a parent, a friend, a partner...but it is all the same.
That feeling of love is God--nothing less.

Of course we share our time and energy--but that's not always possible. We may not always be able to be with the beloved, so we must learn to be with them inside, and we must learn that expectations have nothing to do with love. All are worthy of love, but Love wants nothing for itself.
As you say, God loves us unconditionally and wants nothing more than for us to want Him. But that's not easy... Longing for God is the highest form of grace that can be given--that's what Kabir was experiencing...his love was for his Teacher, who was One with God. This is why God becomes human--it's easier to fall in love with a human form than something that seems abstract. That is what Christ meant by "I am a door"...fall in love with me, and you are falling in love with God because I am One with God...That is the true teaching. By attaching oneself to God--in human form--one is in effect detaching from the world. And by detaching from the world, we eliminate the causes of having to be reborn here.
David

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