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(Woe to the fallen, for they do not see themselves as such but as those exalted.)


I've found something that seems interestingly related but is their anything else?

15- "Woe to those who go to great depths to hide their plans from the Lord, who do their work in darkness and think, "Who sees us? Who will know?" 16- You turn things upside down, as if the potter were thought to be like the clay! .... Isaiah 29


This seems to be related to those who would play "adept and initiate" does it not? ..."Adept and Initiate" also falling as the descriptitory for Orders with secret teaching; agendas and whatnot.

This may actually prove wrong what David L is saying about adepts and initiation in relation to Jesus as it appears to be speaking against it and as their can be found nothing that is speaking for it.


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Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 636 Cesar 24-Jan-04 02:22
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 140 Zosimos 24-Jan-04 03:05
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 140 Cesar 24-Jan-04 03:41
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 129 Zosimos 24-Jan-04 23:39
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 138 Milo 25-Jan-04 00:02
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 143 Zosimos 25-Jan-04 00:55
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 134 Milo 25-Jan-04 01:40
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 438 ThreeFeathers 03-Feb-04 19:41
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 191 Milo 24-Jan-04 03:20
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 155 Cesar 24-Jan-04 04:13
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 140 David L 24-Jan-04 22:20
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 150 Milo 24-Jan-04 22:57
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 138 David L 25-Jan-04 03:55
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 116 Milo 25-Jan-04 05:37
Mod Remark - For Rob and David 152 Thirdwave 25-Jan-04 15:00
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 127 banah 25-Jan-04 16:56
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 130 Hoppy 26-Jan-04 03:52
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 142 Milo 26-Jan-04 04:32
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 287 Hoppy 26-Jan-04 06:06
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 153 Milo 26-Jan-04 14:01
Invented??? 122 Cookiemonsters 29-Jan-04 22:49
Re: Invented??? 153 David L 30-Jan-04 03:37
Re: Invented??? 199 Cookiemonsters 31-Jan-04 06:28
Re: Invented??? 153 banah 31-Jan-04 08:26
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 149 Dominick Ohrbeck 31-Jan-04 09:33
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 120 Dominick Ohrbeck 31-Jan-04 09:37


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