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(Woe to the fallen, for they do not see themselves as such but as those exalted.)


I've found something that seems interestingly related but is their anything else?

15- "Woe to those who go to great depths to hide their plans from the Lord, who do their work in darkness and think, "Who sees us? Who will know?" 16- You turn things upside down, as if the potter were thought to be like the clay! .... Isaiah 29


This seems to be related to those who would play "adept and initiate" does it not? ..."Adept and Initiate" also falling as the descriptitory for Orders with secret teaching; agendas and whatnot.

This may actually prove wrong what David L is saying about adepts and initiation in relation to Jesus as it appears to be speaking against it and as their can be found nothing that is speaking for it.


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Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 472 Cesar 24-Jan-04 02:22
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 94 Zosimos 24-Jan-04 03:05
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 92 Cesar 24-Jan-04 03:41
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 83 Zosimos 24-Jan-04 23:39
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 91 Milo 25-Jan-04 00:02
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 99 Zosimos 25-Jan-04 00:55
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 89 Milo 25-Jan-04 01:40
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 328 ThreeFeathers 03-Feb-04 19:41
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 145 Milo 24-Jan-04 03:20
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 112 Cesar 24-Jan-04 04:13
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 97 David L 24-Jan-04 22:20
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 106 Milo 24-Jan-04 22:57
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 96 David L 25-Jan-04 03:55
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 74 Milo 25-Jan-04 05:37
Mod Remark - For Rob and David 91 Thirdwave 25-Jan-04 15:00
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 84 banah 25-Jan-04 16:56
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 85 Hoppy 26-Jan-04 03:52
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 96 Milo 26-Jan-04 04:32
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 237 Hoppy 26-Jan-04 06:06
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 109 Milo 26-Jan-04 14:01
Invented??? 79 Cookiemonsters 29-Jan-04 22:49
Re: Invented??? 109 David L 30-Jan-04 03:37
Re: Invented??? 155 Cookiemonsters 31-Jan-04 06:28
Re: Invented??? 107 banah 31-Jan-04 08:26
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 104 Dominick Ohrbeck 31-Jan-04 09:33
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 78 Dominick Ohrbeck 31-Jan-04 09:37


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