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(Woe to the fallen, for they do not see themselves as such but as those exalted.)


I've found something that seems interestingly related but is their anything else?

15- "Woe to those who go to great depths to hide their plans from the Lord, who do their work in darkness and think, "Who sees us? Who will know?" 16- You turn things upside down, as if the potter were thought to be like the clay! .... Isaiah 29


This seems to be related to those who would play "adept and initiate" does it not? ..."Adept and Initiate" also falling as the descriptitory for Orders with secret teaching; agendas and whatnot.

This may actually prove wrong what David L is saying about adepts and initiation in relation to Jesus as it appears to be speaking against it and as their can be found nothing that is speaking for it.


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Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 638 Cesar 24-Jan-04 02:22
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 141 Zosimos 24-Jan-04 03:05
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 141 Cesar 24-Jan-04 03:41
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 130 Zosimos 24-Jan-04 23:39
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 139 Milo 25-Jan-04 00:02
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 144 Zosimos 25-Jan-04 00:55
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 135 Milo 25-Jan-04 01:40
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 440 ThreeFeathers 03-Feb-04 19:41
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 192 Milo 24-Jan-04 03:20
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 156 Cesar 24-Jan-04 04:13
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 141 David L 24-Jan-04 22:20
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 151 Milo 24-Jan-04 22:57
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 139 David L 25-Jan-04 03:55
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 117 Milo 25-Jan-04 05:37
Mod Remark - For Rob and David 153 Thirdwave 25-Jan-04 15:00
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 128 banah 25-Jan-04 16:56
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 131 Hoppy 26-Jan-04 03:52
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 143 Milo 26-Jan-04 04:32
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 288 Hoppy 26-Jan-04 06:06
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 154 Milo 26-Jan-04 14:01
Invented??? 123 Cookiemonsters 29-Jan-04 22:49
Re: Invented??? 154 David L 30-Jan-04 03:37
Re: Invented??? 200 Cookiemonsters 31-Jan-04 06:28
Re: Invented??? 154 banah 31-Jan-04 08:26
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 150 Dominick Ohrbeck 31-Jan-04 09:33
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 121 Dominick Ohrbeck 31-Jan-04 09:37


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