> You really ought to read the context, David, of the
> scriptures you quote. Jesus was not the "door" only for
> initiates. He said, "by me if any man enter in, he
> shall be saved".
> So there you are David. Any man, not any initiate.
Right. "By me." While he's alive, and through his initiation, which can only be given while he's physically on the planet.