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In another thread (Gene Matlock's) Trygve Hogebol wrote:

As a friendly advice I would suggest refraining from using the term "proof" in any kind of metaphysical debate. The topic is beyond the realm of scientific logic, and claiming to have proven anything tends to provoke counter-arguments that deals primarily with alternate views rather than elaboration on the original one.

I think this is extremely relevant. The term "proof" these days has aassumed the connotation of scientific proof. There is of course a difference, and a big one at that, between modern scientific proof and experiential proof. I think that both can be logical, indeed both have to be logical. Proving to oneself is easier than proving to others however, and more often than not the latter is a thankless and fruitless task. Better perhaps to put one's energies into the former. How does one do this? Well, this is a work of ages. Amongst Buddha's last words were "work out your own salvation". The Buddhist way is to trust in the Buddha nature; simply put "buddhi" or intuition, something we all can and should do rather than pay heed to so many proclamations of truth and proof.

As an aside, one very appealing thing to me about Graham Hancock is that he has never, as far as I know, said that he has proof. He states his findings in a passionate way, and presents compelling arguments yes, but not as dogma as so many of his peers and establishment academics do. He uses the word "may" a lot.

Harry

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reincarnation 610 Melusine 19-Jan-04 20:55
Re: reincarnation 197 Zosimos 19-Jan-04 21:53
Re: reincarnation 155 Melusine 19-Jan-04 21:59
Re: reincarnation 179 Zosimos 20-Jan-04 00:09
Re: reincarnation 165 Melusine 20-Jan-04 03:59
Re: reincarnation 158 David L 19-Jan-04 23:24
Re: reincarnation 187 Milo 19-Jan-04 23:38
Re: reincarnation 176 David L 20-Jan-04 15:08
Re: reincarnation 141 Milo 21-Jan-04 00:19
Re: reincarnation 180 David L 21-Jan-04 15:10
Re: reincarnation 170 Zosimos 20-Jan-04 00:23
Re: reincarnation 160 David L 20-Jan-04 15:03
Re: reincarnation 175 Zosimos 20-Jan-04 21:38
Re: reincarnation 131 David L 20-Jan-04 23:22
Re: reincarnation 174 Melusine 20-Jan-04 18:57
Re: reincarnation 163 Melusine 20-Jan-04 04:12
Re: reincarnation 145 David L 20-Jan-04 15:21
Re: reincarnation 157 gene douglas 20-Jan-04 17:13
Re: reincarnation 154 David L 20-Jan-04 18:54
Re: reincarnation 165 gene douglas 20-Jan-04 19:27
Re: reincarnation 186 David L 20-Jan-04 23:35
Re: reincarnation 188 banah 25-Jan-04 20:54
Re: reincarnation 176 David L 26-Jan-04 04:23
Re: reincarnation 170 banah 30-Jan-04 19:54
Water Symbolism 146 Cleopatra 11-Feb-04 13:59
Re: Water Symbolism 162 David L 11-Feb-04 17:32
Re: reincarnation 201 HarryWJYoung 21-Jan-04 10:16
Re: reincarnation 180 gene douglas 21-Jan-04 13:26
Re: reincarnation 162 HarryWJYoung 22-Jan-04 00:21
Re: reincarnation 178 David L 21-Jan-04 15:26
Re: reincarnation 186 HarryWJYoung 21-Jan-04 16:02
Re: reincarnation 172 David L 21-Jan-04 22:13
Re: reincarnation 161 banah 25-Jan-04 19:41
Re: reincarnation 151 SunSword 14-Feb-04 18:29
Re: reincarnation 163 fiascohoho 20-Jan-04 19:22
Re: reincarnation 176 David L 20-Jan-04 23:41
Re: reincarnation 174 Milo 21-Jan-04 00:39
Re: reincarnation 151 David L 21-Jan-04 02:48
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Re: reincarnation 173 David L 21-Jan-04 15:41
Re: reincarnation 171 Milo 21-Jan-04 15:58
Re: reincarnation 167 David L 21-Jan-04 22:20
Re: reincarnation 180 Milo 21-Jan-04 22:52
Re: reincarnation 165 David L 22-Jan-04 01:55
Re: reincarnation 150 Milo 22-Jan-04 02:13
Re: reincarnation 124 Nebankh 22-Jan-04 12:44
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Re: reincarnation 171 Nebankh 22-Jan-04 17:34
Re: reincarnation 121 Milo 22-Jan-04 19:09
Re: reincarnation 204 David L 22-Jan-04 21:53
Re: reincarnation 314 Cesar 22-Jan-04 22:49
Re: reincarnation 239 David L 23-Jan-04 02:37
Re: reincarnation 181 Cesar 23-Jan-04 10:41
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Re: reincarnation 185 HarryWJYoung 23-Jan-04 09:41
Re: reincarnation 161 David L 23-Jan-04 15:36
Re: reincarnation 180 HarryWJYoung 23-Jan-04 16:35
Re: reincarnation 165 HarryWJYoung 23-Jan-04 17:06
Re: reincarnation 173 David L 23-Jan-04 20:28
Re: reincarnation 408 David L 23-Jan-04 20:10
Re: reincarnation 147 Milo 23-Jan-04 20:50
Re: reincarnation 144 David L 23-Jan-04 23:06
Re: reincarnation 144 Milo 23-Jan-04 23:43
Re: reincarnation 159 David L 24-Jan-04 01:04
Re: reincarnation 161 ArmchairObserver 24-Jan-04 07:43
Re: reincarnation 184 Cesar 24-Jan-04 17:31
Re: reincarnation 178 Cesar 24-Jan-04 00:31
Re: reincarnation 161 Cesar 24-Jan-04 00:45
Re: reincarnation 157 Milo 22-Jan-04 23:17
Re: reincarnation 138 Zosimos 22-Jan-04 22:53
Re: reincarnation 183 lobo-hotei 19-Jan-04 23:26
Re: reincarnation 174 Zosimos 20-Jan-04 00:27
Re: reincarnation 148 ArmchairObserver 21-Jan-04 09:08
Re: reincarnation 201 RichardC 20-Jan-04 13:06
Re: reincarnation 177 SunSword 14-Feb-04 18:13
Master of your own ship 310 Richard Fusniak 14-Feb-04 18:31
Re: reincarnation 171 David L 19-Jan-04 23:16
Re: reincarnation 182 newrisingsun 19-Jan-04 23:37
Re: reincarnation 150 David L 20-Jan-04 01:33
Re: reincarnation 163 newrisingsun 20-Jan-04 17:04
Re: reincarnation 138 Saorsa 20-Jan-04 08:46
Re: reincarnation 270 Aarooga 20-Jan-04 16:35
Re: reincarnation 136 Saorsa 21-Jan-04 08:20
Re: reincarnation 166 ArmchairObserver 21-Jan-04 09:15
Re: reincarnation 148 Saorsa 21-Jan-04 11:58
Re: reincarnation 130 ArmchairObserver 21-Jan-04 15:33
Re: reincarnation 148 Saorsa 21-Jan-04 16:19
Re: reincarnation 193 Aarooga 22-Jan-04 13:13
Re: reincarnation 150 Saorsa 22-Jan-04 14:48
Re: reincarnation 179 Dominick Ohrbeck 20-Jan-04 20:21
Fuzzy 165 Richard Fusniak 20-Jan-04 23:21
Re: Fuzzy 144 Saorsa 21-Jan-04 08:35
Re: Fuzzy 161 Mark Staab 22-Jan-04 21:53
Re: reincarnation 152 Segestan 21-Jan-04 16:33
Re: reincarnation 129 Earache 21-Jan-04 21:34
Re: reincarnation 172 Trygve Hogebol 22-Jan-04 07:17
Re: reincarnation 147 Earache 24-Jan-04 13:07
Re: reincarnation 154 Richard Fusniak 25-Jan-04 21:17
Re: reincarnation 151 Earache 31-Jan-04 15:42
Re: reincarnation 165 Alex S 26-Jan-04 01:56
Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 154 Richard Fusniak 27-Jan-04 01:26
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 153 Alex S 27-Jan-04 15:11
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 151 Richard Fusniak 29-Jan-04 02:04
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 180 Alex S 29-Jan-04 12:13
Planetary Consciousness 136 Trygve Hogebol 30-Jan-04 05:59
Re: Planetary Consciousness 157 Mark Staab 30-Jan-04 16:18
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 224 timewaster 29-Jan-04 16:25
The value of regression 164 Richard Fusniak 31-Jan-04 23:17
Re: The value of regression 159 timewaster 02-Feb-04 03:22
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 185 David L 01-Feb-04 01:28
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 149 Trygve Hogebol 02-Feb-04 03:48
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 168 Trygve Hogebol 29-Jan-04 02:58
King or pauper 157 Richard Fusniak 29-Jan-04 12:40
Re: King or pauper 152 Saorsa 29-Jan-04 12:51
Re: reincarnation 147 Lee McGiffen 27-Jan-04 10:38


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