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In another thread (Gene Matlock's) Trygve Hogebol wrote:

As a friendly advice I would suggest refraining from using the term "proof" in any kind of metaphysical debate. The topic is beyond the realm of scientific logic, and claiming to have proven anything tends to provoke counter-arguments that deals primarily with alternate views rather than elaboration on the original one.

I think this is extremely relevant. The term "proof" these days has aassumed the connotation of scientific proof. There is of course a difference, and a big one at that, between modern scientific proof and experiential proof. I think that both can be logical, indeed both have to be logical. Proving to oneself is easier than proving to others however, and more often than not the latter is a thankless and fruitless task. Better perhaps to put one's energies into the former. How does one do this? Well, this is a work of ages. Amongst Buddha's last words were "work out your own salvation". The Buddhist way is to trust in the Buddha nature; simply put "buddhi" or intuition, something we all can and should do rather than pay heed to so many proclamations of truth and proof.

As an aside, one very appealing thing to me about Graham Hancock is that he has never, as far as I know, said that he has proof. He states his findings in a passionate way, and presents compelling arguments yes, but not as dogma as so many of his peers and establishment academics do. He uses the word "may" a lot.

Harry

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reincarnation 679 Melusine 19-Jan-04 20:55
Re: reincarnation 220 Zosimos 19-Jan-04 21:53
Re: reincarnation 180 Melusine 19-Jan-04 21:59
Re: reincarnation 204 Zosimos 20-Jan-04 00:09
Re: reincarnation 192 Melusine 20-Jan-04 03:59
Re: reincarnation 180 David L 19-Jan-04 23:24
Re: reincarnation 210 Milo 19-Jan-04 23:38
Re: reincarnation 202 David L 20-Jan-04 15:08
Re: reincarnation 164 Milo 21-Jan-04 00:19
Re: reincarnation 201 David L 21-Jan-04 15:10
Re: reincarnation 193 Zosimos 20-Jan-04 00:23
Re: reincarnation 191 David L 20-Jan-04 15:03
Re: reincarnation 201 Zosimos 20-Jan-04 21:38
Re: reincarnation 155 David L 20-Jan-04 23:22
Re: reincarnation 200 Melusine 20-Jan-04 18:57
Re: reincarnation 187 Melusine 20-Jan-04 04:12
Re: reincarnation 170 David L 20-Jan-04 15:21
Re: reincarnation 180 gene douglas 20-Jan-04 17:13
Re: reincarnation 177 David L 20-Jan-04 18:54
Re: reincarnation 188 gene douglas 20-Jan-04 19:27
Re: reincarnation 208 David L 20-Jan-04 23:35
Re: reincarnation 215 banah 25-Jan-04 20:54
Re: reincarnation 198 David L 26-Jan-04 04:23
Re: reincarnation 193 banah 30-Jan-04 19:54
Water Symbolism 170 Cleopatra 11-Feb-04 13:59
Re: Water Symbolism 189 David L 11-Feb-04 17:32
Re: reincarnation 224 HarryWJYoung 21-Jan-04 10:16
Re: reincarnation 226 gene douglas 21-Jan-04 13:26
Re: reincarnation 186 HarryWJYoung 22-Jan-04 00:21
Re: reincarnation 204 David L 21-Jan-04 15:26
Re: reincarnation 208 HarryWJYoung 21-Jan-04 16:02
Re: reincarnation 196 David L 21-Jan-04 22:13
Re: reincarnation 185 banah 25-Jan-04 19:41
Re: reincarnation 172 SunSword 14-Feb-04 18:29
Re: reincarnation 189 fiascohoho 20-Jan-04 19:22
Re: reincarnation 198 David L 20-Jan-04 23:41
Re: reincarnation 197 Milo 21-Jan-04 00:39
Re: reincarnation 175 David L 21-Jan-04 02:48
Re: reincarnation 188 Milo 21-Jan-04 03:03
Re: reincarnation 198 David L 21-Jan-04 15:41
Re: reincarnation 193 Milo 21-Jan-04 15:58
Re: reincarnation 188 David L 21-Jan-04 22:20
Re: reincarnation 206 Milo 21-Jan-04 22:52
Re: reincarnation 186 David L 22-Jan-04 01:55
Re: reincarnation 175 Milo 22-Jan-04 02:13
Re: reincarnation 148 Nebankh 22-Jan-04 12:44
Re: reincarnation 202 Milo 22-Jan-04 17:00
Re: reincarnation 193 Nebankh 22-Jan-04 17:34
Re: reincarnation 143 Milo 22-Jan-04 19:09
Re: reincarnation 245 David L 22-Jan-04 21:53
Re: reincarnation 337 Cesar 22-Jan-04 22:49
Re: reincarnation 262 David L 23-Jan-04 02:37
Re: reincarnation 209 Cesar 23-Jan-04 10:41
Re: reincarnation 265 David L 23-Jan-04 02:53
Re: reincarnation 205 HarryWJYoung 23-Jan-04 09:41
Re: reincarnation 183 David L 23-Jan-04 15:36
Re: reincarnation 207 HarryWJYoung 23-Jan-04 16:35
Re: reincarnation 188 HarryWJYoung 23-Jan-04 17:06
Re: reincarnation 197 David L 23-Jan-04 20:28
Re: reincarnation 430 David L 23-Jan-04 20:10
Re: reincarnation 171 Milo 23-Jan-04 20:50
Re: reincarnation 168 David L 23-Jan-04 23:06
Re: reincarnation 167 Milo 23-Jan-04 23:43
Re: reincarnation 182 David L 24-Jan-04 01:04
Re: reincarnation 183 ArmchairObserver 24-Jan-04 07:43
Re: reincarnation 219 Cesar 24-Jan-04 17:31
Re: reincarnation 203 Cesar 24-Jan-04 00:31
Re: reincarnation 181 Cesar 24-Jan-04 00:45
Re: reincarnation 180 Milo 22-Jan-04 23:17
Re: reincarnation 162 Zosimos 22-Jan-04 22:53
Re: reincarnation 207 lobo-hotei 19-Jan-04 23:26
Re: reincarnation 196 Zosimos 20-Jan-04 00:27
Re: reincarnation 169 ArmchairObserver 21-Jan-04 09:08
Re: reincarnation 226 RichardC 20-Jan-04 13:06
Re: reincarnation 197 SunSword 14-Feb-04 18:13
Master of your own ship 354 Richard Fusniak 14-Feb-04 18:31
Re: reincarnation 197 David L 19-Jan-04 23:16
Re: reincarnation 208 newrisingsun 19-Jan-04 23:37
Re: reincarnation 174 David L 20-Jan-04 01:33
Re: reincarnation 188 newrisingsun 20-Jan-04 17:04
Re: reincarnation 160 Saorsa 20-Jan-04 08:46
Re: reincarnation 294 Aarooga 20-Jan-04 16:35
Re: reincarnation 157 Saorsa 21-Jan-04 08:20
Re: reincarnation 188 ArmchairObserver 21-Jan-04 09:15
Re: reincarnation 171 Saorsa 21-Jan-04 11:58
Re: reincarnation 153 ArmchairObserver 21-Jan-04 15:33
Re: reincarnation 171 Saorsa 21-Jan-04 16:19
Re: reincarnation 217 Aarooga 22-Jan-04 13:13
Re: reincarnation 174 Saorsa 22-Jan-04 14:48
Re: reincarnation 205 Dominick Ohrbeck 20-Jan-04 20:21
Fuzzy 188 Richard Fusniak 20-Jan-04 23:21
Re: Fuzzy 169 Saorsa 21-Jan-04 08:35
Re: Fuzzy 184 Mark Staab 22-Jan-04 21:53
Re: reincarnation 177 Segestan 21-Jan-04 16:33
Re: reincarnation 158 Earache 21-Jan-04 21:34
Re: reincarnation 192 Trygve Hogebol 22-Jan-04 07:17
Re: reincarnation 171 Earache 24-Jan-04 13:07
Re: reincarnation 173 Richard Fusniak 25-Jan-04 21:17
Re: reincarnation 177 Earache 31-Jan-04 15:42
Re: reincarnation 188 Alex S 26-Jan-04 01:56
Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 177 Richard Fusniak 27-Jan-04 01:26
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 176 Alex S 27-Jan-04 15:11
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 173 Richard Fusniak 29-Jan-04 02:04
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 201 Alex S 29-Jan-04 12:13
Planetary Consciousness 160 Trygve Hogebol 30-Jan-04 05:59
Re: Planetary Consciousness 180 Mark Staab 30-Jan-04 16:18
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 245 timewaster 29-Jan-04 16:25
The value of regression 187 Richard Fusniak 31-Jan-04 23:17
Re: The value of regression 179 timewaster 02-Feb-04 03:22
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 208 David L 01-Feb-04 01:28
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 169 Trygve Hogebol 02-Feb-04 03:48
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 189 Trygve Hogebol 29-Jan-04 02:58
King or pauper 178 Richard Fusniak 29-Jan-04 12:40
Re: King or pauper 174 Saorsa 29-Jan-04 12:51
Re: reincarnation 169 Lee McGiffen 27-Jan-04 10:38


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