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gene douglas wrote:
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> Magdalen, it is so strange that the Christian denominations
> reject the idea of reincarnation when this teaching was a
> major part of Christ's teachings. According to the Bible,
> Christ said, "Except a man be born again, he shall never see
> the kingdom of heaven." Yet, I have listened to people insist
> that Christ did not really mean this when he said it.

I also believe Christ taught reincarnation to his initiates, although not to the public. But I do not agree that the "born again" teaching refers to reincarnation. Rather it refers to initiation, as do these statements:

John 3:5
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

John 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Matthew 3:11 (John the Baptist speaking)
I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire.

The "water" referred to is not earthly water, but the "Living Water" referred to in:
John 4:10
Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.

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reincarnation 526 Melusine 19-Jan-04 20:55
Re: reincarnation 161 Zosimos 19-Jan-04 21:53
Re: reincarnation 138 Melusine 19-Jan-04 21:59
Re: reincarnation 144 Zosimos 20-Jan-04 00:09
Re: reincarnation 128 Melusine 20-Jan-04 03:59
Re: reincarnation 125 David L 19-Jan-04 23:24
Re: reincarnation 149 Milo 19-Jan-04 23:38
Re: reincarnation 155 David L 20-Jan-04 15:08
Re: reincarnation 119 Milo 21-Jan-04 00:19
Re: reincarnation 143 David L 21-Jan-04 15:10
Re: reincarnation 137 Zosimos 20-Jan-04 00:23
Re: reincarnation 139 David L 20-Jan-04 15:03
Re: reincarnation 156 Zosimos 20-Jan-04 21:38
Re: reincarnation 109 David L 20-Jan-04 23:22
Re: reincarnation 133 Melusine 20-Jan-04 18:57
Re: reincarnation 132 Melusine 20-Jan-04 04:12
Re: reincarnation 115 David L 20-Jan-04 15:21
Re: reincarnation 132 gene douglas 20-Jan-04 17:13
Re: reincarnation 129 David L 20-Jan-04 18:54
Re: reincarnation 132 gene douglas 20-Jan-04 19:27
Re: reincarnation 149 David L 20-Jan-04 23:35
Re: reincarnation 146 banah 25-Jan-04 20:54
Re: reincarnation 139 David L 26-Jan-04 04:23
Re: reincarnation 140 banah 30-Jan-04 19:54
Water Symbolism 128 Cleopatra 11-Feb-04 13:59
Re: Water Symbolism 138 David L 11-Feb-04 17:32
Re: reincarnation 170 HarryWJYoung 21-Jan-04 10:16
Re: reincarnation 141 gene douglas 21-Jan-04 13:26
Re: reincarnation 144 HarryWJYoung 22-Jan-04 00:21
Re: reincarnation 158 David L 21-Jan-04 15:26
Re: reincarnation 154 HarryWJYoung 21-Jan-04 16:02
Re: reincarnation 137 David L 21-Jan-04 22:13
Re: reincarnation 139 banah 25-Jan-04 19:41
Re: reincarnation 132 SunSword 14-Feb-04 18:29
Re: reincarnation 123 fiascohoho 20-Jan-04 19:22
Re: reincarnation 146 David L 20-Jan-04 23:41
Re: reincarnation 136 Milo 21-Jan-04 00:39
Re: reincarnation 129 David L 21-Jan-04 02:48
Re: reincarnation 146 Milo 21-Jan-04 03:03
Re: reincarnation 137 David L 21-Jan-04 15:41
Re: reincarnation 136 Milo 21-Jan-04 15:58
Re: reincarnation 131 David L 21-Jan-04 22:20
Re: reincarnation 143 Milo 21-Jan-04 22:52
Re: reincarnation 133 David L 22-Jan-04 01:55
Re: reincarnation 133 Milo 22-Jan-04 02:13
Re: reincarnation 100 Nebankh 22-Jan-04 12:44
Re: reincarnation 130 Milo 22-Jan-04 17:00
Re: reincarnation 127 Nebankh 22-Jan-04 17:34
Re: reincarnation 103 Milo 22-Jan-04 19:09
Re: reincarnation 182 David L 22-Jan-04 21:53
Re: reincarnation 277 Cesar 22-Jan-04 22:49
Re: reincarnation 196 David L 23-Jan-04 02:37
Re: reincarnation 147 Cesar 23-Jan-04 10:41
Re: reincarnation 206 David L 23-Jan-04 02:53
Re: reincarnation 149 HarryWJYoung 23-Jan-04 09:41
Re: reincarnation 135 David L 23-Jan-04 15:36
Re: reincarnation 163 HarryWJYoung 23-Jan-04 16:35
Re: reincarnation 131 HarryWJYoung 23-Jan-04 17:06
Re: reincarnation 139 David L 23-Jan-04 20:28
Re: reincarnation 375 David L 23-Jan-04 20:10
Re: reincarnation 114 Milo 23-Jan-04 20:50
Re: reincarnation 112 David L 23-Jan-04 23:06
Re: reincarnation 109 Milo 23-Jan-04 23:43
Re: reincarnation 126 David L 24-Jan-04 01:04
Re: reincarnation 130 ArmchairObserver 24-Jan-04 07:43
Re: reincarnation 152 Cesar 24-Jan-04 17:31
Re: reincarnation 144 Cesar 24-Jan-04 00:31
Re: reincarnation 125 Cesar 24-Jan-04 00:45
Re: reincarnation 118 Milo 22-Jan-04 23:17
Re: reincarnation 102 Zosimos 22-Jan-04 22:53
Re: reincarnation 148 lobo-hotei 19-Jan-04 23:26
Re: reincarnation 142 Zosimos 20-Jan-04 00:27
Re: reincarnation 108 ArmchairObserver 21-Jan-04 09:08
Re: reincarnation 162 RichardC 20-Jan-04 13:06
Re: reincarnation 144 SunSword 14-Feb-04 18:13
Master of your own ship 260 Richard Fusniak 14-Feb-04 18:31
Re: reincarnation 139 David L 19-Jan-04 23:16
Re: reincarnation 134 newrisingsun 19-Jan-04 23:37
Re: reincarnation 120 David L 20-Jan-04 01:33
Re: reincarnation 131 newrisingsun 20-Jan-04 17:04
Re: reincarnation 116 Saorsa 20-Jan-04 08:46
Re: reincarnation 233 Aarooga 20-Jan-04 16:35
Re: reincarnation 104 Saorsa 21-Jan-04 08:20
Re: reincarnation 132 ArmchairObserver 21-Jan-04 09:15
Re: reincarnation 114 Saorsa 21-Jan-04 11:58
Re: reincarnation 112 ArmchairObserver 21-Jan-04 15:33
Re: reincarnation 125 Saorsa 21-Jan-04 16:19
Re: reincarnation 175 Aarooga 22-Jan-04 13:13
Re: reincarnation 118 Saorsa 22-Jan-04 14:48
Re: reincarnation 143 Dominick Ohrbeck 20-Jan-04 20:21
Fuzzy 130 Richard Fusniak 20-Jan-04 23:21
Re: Fuzzy 111 Saorsa 21-Jan-04 08:35
Re: Fuzzy 136 Mark Staab 22-Jan-04 21:53
Re: reincarnation 132 Segestan 21-Jan-04 16:33
Re: reincarnation 110 Earache 21-Jan-04 21:34
Re: reincarnation 136 Trygve Hogebol 22-Jan-04 07:17
Re: reincarnation 128 Earache 24-Jan-04 13:07
Re: reincarnation 116 Richard Fusniak 25-Jan-04 21:17
Re: reincarnation 115 Earache 31-Jan-04 15:42
Re: reincarnation 129 Alex S 26-Jan-04 01:56
Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 137 Richard Fusniak 27-Jan-04 01:26
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 119 Alex S 27-Jan-04 15:11
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 131 Richard Fusniak 29-Jan-04 02:04
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 149 Alex S 29-Jan-04 12:13
Planetary Consciousness 106 Trygve Hogebol 30-Jan-04 05:59
Re: Planetary Consciousness 126 Mark Staab 30-Jan-04 16:18
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 183 timewaster 29-Jan-04 16:25
The value of regression 142 Richard Fusniak 31-Jan-04 23:17
Re: The value of regression 125 timewaster 02-Feb-04 03:22
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 153 David L 01-Feb-04 01:28
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 120 Trygve Hogebol 02-Feb-04 03:48
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 138 Trygve Hogebol 29-Jan-04 02:58
King or pauper 124 Richard Fusniak 29-Jan-04 12:40
Re: King or pauper 132 Saorsa 29-Jan-04 12:51
Re: reincarnation 116 Lee McGiffen 27-Jan-04 10:38


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