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By definition, "universe" means everything that exists. So yes, the phrase "many universes" is nonsense. Many worlds is a bit less out of focus, but still not really right. It's many different possible states of this world. Many timelines would be the more accurate way to describe it, I think. All this comes down to is the implications of a couple of facts that have emerged from modern physics.

1) The "Arrow of Time" is not essential to the laws physics, so far as we can tell. There is no known reason that events must only progress in one direction. Which probably means that time itself is not a property of the universe but a property of our minds.

2) Physical reality is somehow determined by a probability field that is not actually settled to one of the possible alternatives until consciousness "collapses" it. This is called the "measurement problem". Things don't fully exist until someone looks at them. Which might also be a limitation of our minds rather than a property of the universe. In which case, the "collapse" of the probability field is not in the "real world" but in our minds.

Combining these leads to a staggering speculation -- the "real world" is everything possible at once, and we can (and must) choose what to perceive from the unimaginably vast possibilities. Note: This is NOT infinity! Infinity is very different from any measurable or calculable system. Mathematicians could possibly lecture about what infinity really is. I am not a mathematician. :) The universe is finite even though it is huge beyond any normal way of understanding. There is an estimate of the number of particles in the entire universe. Protons, electrons, etc. It's one of those crazy scientific notation numbers. And since there is a finite number of them, there is a finite number of "states" (inter-relations) they could be arranged in. That is also a crazy scientific notation number, naturally many times larger than the number of particles. We live on one small planet in this huge universe, and we have limited life spans, so the number of possible "worlds" or timelines is much smaller for us than for the entire universe. But it's still pretty huge.

We know very well that the "real" physical world is not what we perceive with our senses. Solid matter is actually fields of force, for example, and mostly empty space. But our minds, our ability to think about things, are built mostly from our experience in the first "real" world of our senses. It has been a slow process building up the abstract ideas that can begin to let us understand beyond our sensory world. The "many worlds" hypothesis is just a speculation using some of those abstract ideas. But it is an amazing image, isn't it?



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What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 509 Itatw70s 11-Jan-20 17:55
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 53 Eddie Larry 11-Jan-20 18:58
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 42 Itatw70s 11-Jan-20 23:10
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 37 Eddie Larry 12-Jan-20 00:12
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 38 Itatw70s 12-Jan-20 00:21
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 35 Eddie Larry 12-Jan-20 00:30
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 37 Itatw70s 12-Jan-20 00:42
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 35 Eddie Larry 12-Jan-20 00:50
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 40 Itatw70s 12-Jan-20 00:59
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 41 Glass Jigsaw 12-Jan-20 02:56
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 47 Aine 12-Jan-20 03:43
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 43 Eddie Larry 12-Jan-20 05:17
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 46 Aine 12-Jan-20 13:18
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 34 Eddie Larry 12-Jan-20 14:51
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 40 Glass Jigsaw 12-Jan-20 15:00
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 36 Eddie Larry 13-Jan-20 05:20
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 34 Glass Jigsaw 13-Jan-20 12:57
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 39 Eddie Larry 13-Jan-20 13:26
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 41 Susan Doris 13-Jan-20 18:36
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 33 Itatw70s 13-Jan-20 23:07
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 51 Nolondil 12-Jan-20 16:49
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 48 Susan Doris 12-Jan-20 16:57
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 50 Itatw70s 12-Jan-20 17:38
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 41 Glass Jigsaw 13-Jan-20 00:11
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 35 Itatw70s 13-Jan-20 20:43
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 37 Glass Jigsaw 14-Jan-20 00:07
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 50 Glass Jigsaw 13-Jan-20 00:33
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 42 Aine 13-Jan-20 18:41
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 42 Poster Boy 13-Jan-20 20:23
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 35 Itatw70s 14-Jan-20 12:55
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 38 Susan Doris 14-Jan-20 14:33
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 42 Itatw70s 14-Jan-20 16:45
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 45 Susan Doris 14-Jan-20 17:54
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 39 Itatw70s 14-Jan-20 22:36
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 39 Glass Jigsaw 15-Jan-20 01:52
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 40 Nolondil 15-Jan-20 02:05
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 35 Susan Doris 15-Jan-20 05:59
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 50 Glass Jigsaw 14-Jan-20 18:20
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 48 drew 14-Jan-20 23:27
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 46 Kaaron 15-Jan-20 07:59
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 35 Glass Jigsaw 15-Jan-20 18:19
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 39 Kaaron 15-Jan-20 18:40
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 42 Itatw70s 15-Jan-20 21:18
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 39 Susan Doris 16-Jan-20 06:07
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 33 Aine 16-Jan-20 13:23
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 34 Susan Doris 16-Jan-20 16:44
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 33 Itatw70s 16-Jan-20 20:27
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 37 Susan Doris 17-Jan-20 06:40
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 32 Itatw70s 17-Jan-20 12:32
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 32 Aine 17-Jan-20 13:49
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 39 Susan Doris 17-Jan-20 14:36
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 43 drew 15-Jan-20 23:05
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 46 Kaaron 16-Jan-20 04:14
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 50 drew 16-Jan-20 09:18
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 50 Glass Jigsaw 17-Jan-20 00:12
Suggesting a paradigm shift 43 drrayeye 19-Jan-20 02:56
Re: Suggesting a paradigm shift 36 Glass Jigsaw 19-Jan-20 12:27
Re: Suggesting a paradigm shift 33 drrayeye 20-Jan-20 00:26
Re: Suggesting a paradigm shift 36 Glass Jigsaw 20-Jan-20 14:42
Re: Suggesting a paradigm shift 32 Itatw70s 20-Jan-20 22:20
Re: Suggesting a paradigm shift 30 Glass Jigsaw 20-Jan-20 22:43
Re: Suggesting a paradigm shift 34 Itatw70s 20-Jan-20 23:41
Re: Suggesting a paradigm shift 29 Glass Jigsaw 21-Jan-20 01:21
Re: Suggesting a paradigm shift 26 Glass Jigsaw 21-Jan-20 18:54
Scientific moonshine 27 drrayeye 21-Jan-20 22:08
Re: Suggesting a paradigm shift 25 Itatw70s 21-Jan-20 23:09
Keeping it simple 33 drrayeye 21-Jan-20 05:02
Re: Suggesting a paradigm shift 40 drew 20-Jan-20 22:12
Re: Suggesting a paradigm shift 31 Itatw70s 20-Jan-20 22:37
Riding the light 34 Eddie Larry 20-Jan-20 23:52
Re: Riding the light 28 Itatw70s 21-Jan-20 12:47
Re: Riding the light 28 drrayeye 21-Jan-20 15:47
Re: Riding the light 28 Itatw70s 21-Jan-20 17:05
Re: Riding the light 36 Kaaron 21-Jan-20 18:41
Re: Suggesting a different perspective on photons 22 drew 25-Jan-20 22:17
Quantum physicists 34 drrayeye 21-Jan-20 05:08
Re: Quantum physicists 34 Susan Doris 21-Jan-20 06:37
Response to Drew 34 drrayeye 21-Jan-20 16:03
Re: Quantum physicists 28 drew 21-Jan-20 21:51
There aren't factions 28 drrayeye 21-Jan-20 21:59
Re: There aren't factions 31 drew 22-Jan-20 07:47
Re: There aren't factions 31 drrayeye 22-Jan-20 16:30
Re: There aren't factions 25 drew 22-Jan-20 23:07
Re: There aren't factions 28 drrayeye 22-Jan-20 23:49
Re: There aren't factions 25 drew 23-Jan-20 01:15
Nonsense 26 drrayeye 23-Jan-20 01:47
Re: Nonsense 37 drew 23-Jan-20 09:38
Re: Nonsense 25 shando 29-Jan-20 01:20
Re: Nonsense 20 drew 29-Jan-20 02:57
Re: Suggesting a paradigm shift 41 Glass Jigsaw 21-Jan-20 19:06
Re: Suggesting a paradigm shift 40 Itatw70s 21-Jan-20 23:37
Not quantum physics 44 drrayeye 22-Jan-20 00:08
Re: Not quantum physics 26 Glass Jigsaw 22-Jan-20 23:03
Re: Not quantum physics 25 drrayeye 23-Jan-20 01:18
Re: Not quantum physics 25 Glass Jigsaw 23-Jan-20 01:33
it's OK 27 drrayeye 23-Jan-20 01:50
Re: it's OK 32 Glass Jigsaw 23-Jan-20 02:12
Re: it's OK 29 Itatw70s 25-Jan-20 21:52
Re: it's OK 25 drew 28-Jan-20 04:59
Re: it's OK 24 drew 28-Jan-20 04:46
Re: it's OK 23 drrayeye 28-Jan-20 05:36
Re: it's OK 23 drew 28-Jan-20 07:36
Re: it's OK 28 drrayeye 28-Jan-20 08:26
Re: it's OK 22 Itatw70s 28-Jan-20 21:07
Re: it's OK 21 drew 28-Jan-20 23:41
Re: it's OK 21 Itatw70s 29-Jan-20 12:41
Re: it's OK 21 drew 30-Jan-20 01:47
Care to try a meditative trip, Tom? 22 drew 30-Jan-20 21:47
Re: Care to try a meditative trip, Tom? 36 Glass Jigsaw 01-Feb-20 01:37
Re: Suggesting a paradigm shift 33 drew 22-Jan-20 07:56
Re: Suggesting a paradigm shift 33 Kaaron 22-Jan-20 05:45
Re: Suggesting a paradigm shift 33 drew 22-Jan-20 07:51
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 58 Itatw70s 19-Jan-20 14:53
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 43 Kaaron 20-Jan-20 19:46
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 41 Kaaron 23-Jan-20 02:47
Intereresrting alternative w/o time 41 drrayeye 23-Jan-20 03:16
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 30 drew 25-Jan-20 22:31
Reality and predetermination..... 31 Itatw70s 26-Jan-20 00:28
Re: Reality and predetermination..... 22 drew 26-Jan-20 21:24
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 35 Kaaron 26-Jan-20 01:39
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 25 drew 26-Jan-20 21:48
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 26 Kaaron 26-Jan-20 22:50
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 27 Itatw70s 26-Jan-20 23:04
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 29 Kaaron 26-Jan-20 23:19
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 30 drew 27-Jan-20 02:41
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 30 Kaaron 27-Jan-20 04:50
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 30 drew 27-Jan-20 10:25
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 36 Itatw70s 27-Jan-20 12:52
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 29 Glass Jigsaw 27-Jan-20 19:37
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 25 Itatw70s 27-Jan-20 21:22
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 24 Glass Jigsaw 28-Jan-20 02:53
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 22 drew 27-Jan-20 23:33
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 23 Itatw70s 28-Jan-20 21:14
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 23 drew 28-Jan-20 23:45
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 21 Itatw70s 29-Jan-20 12:51
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 34 Kaaron 27-Jan-20 19:10
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 21 drew 27-Jan-20 23:43
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 22 Kaaron 28-Jan-20 00:19
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 30 Glass Jigsaw 27-Jan-20 19:26
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 24 Eddie Larry 27-Jan-20 22:33
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 21 Itatw70s 28-Jan-20 21:29
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 29 drew 28-Jan-20 00:03
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 25 Eddie Larry 28-Jan-20 05:25
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 27 drew 28-Jan-20 07:40
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 24 Eddie Larry 28-Jan-20 17:18
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 24 Susan Doris 28-Jan-20 18:03
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 28 Eddie Larry 28-Jan-20 18:44
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 27 Susan Doris 29-Jan-20 06:01
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 23 Eddie Larry 29-Jan-20 15:29
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 28 Susan Doris 29-Jan-20 16:30
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 23 drew 30-Jan-20 01:49
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 27 Itatw70s 28-Jan-20 21:36
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 28 Glass Jigsaw 28-Jan-20 21:15
Re: What do you think about the "Many Worlds" theory? 22 drew 29-Jan-20 01:04
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