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My reply: Here is what I think is wrong with your conclusions. First off, Thomas Edison said we as human beings only understand 1 millionth of one percent about anything (not a direct quote, but something close to that).
I don’t doubt that he said that. His contributions to science and the world of electricity are rightly acknowledged, respected and are part of our history. However, that does not mean that all his other remarks on other subjects carry the same weight. Do you think he would express the same thoughts in today’s world?
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From the film "What the bleep do we know" - addressing visual perception - "the eye takes in about 400,000 bits of information anytime we look out at the world, but by the time our brain and eyes filter out information (or in my mind, edits out everything we do not understand) only 2000 bits of info are received" (again, not an exact quote). So, what is it we are not seeing
The straightforward answer to that is: everything else beyond our visual field. What you quote here sounds as if it is dealing with focal vision – is the pperipheral area mentioned or included? Remember, I know quite a lot about using the peripheral area.
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our dead grandparents lingering nearby perhaps,
Only if they are still living!
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guardian angels,
If someone wants to imagine entities such as guardian angels, good luck to them. Angels are figments of the imagination. The room for doubt is so vanishingly small that it can be rejected absolutely.
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I'm in the camp with Edison, I think there is so much more to know and the knowledge will change us as a species, hopefully in a way that will keep our home planet healthy.
There is always more to learn and it’s daft to think otherwise. If you wish to think that the totally subjective evidence (i.e. of any kind of supernatural anything) of those in previous times is better than the objective stuff available today, you have of course the freedom to do so, but to delude yourself into thinking it is real is, in my opinion, a mistake and possibly a waste of valuable living and thinking time.
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I pretty much see that as a goal of evolution - to expand our knowledge and learn how to operate in a "kind" way in the universe or multi-verse.
Why do you think that evolution has a goal? How can something that happens as a result of the material ((chemical, etc) world, not directed by anything, be the result of sX’s ‘goal’? There is no evidence at all for such a goal. If you think there is, what is it?
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But, from what I perceive in the many replies I've seen of yours over many years, is that everything is KNOWN, period,
And that is absolute balderdash. I guarantee that I have never said or implied that all is known. I know that to be a statement that cannot be made and I never deliberately tell lies – it is far too difficult to remember what one has said.
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that's the end of it. I could be wrong about you, of course, and frankly I don't have a problem with your opinions and in no way think you are a bad person.
) Well, that’s nice!!!! You may or may not be interested to know that one thing I have learnt about myself in my 83 years is that people find me comfortable and harmonious to be with. The moment I find myself becoming personally irritated by anything people say on this (or any other) forum is the day I leave it – and since that is not going to happen, you’re stuck with me until I die!!
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My reply: reality is flexible, but you would have to understand something about spirit to understand that.
So give me one objective fact about spirits!! A definition would probably be a good idea too.
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Personally, I think Einstein was aware of this. There is plenty of evidence out there that a great deal of science is correct, however, it is always being tweaked with new incoming info and investigations. Thus our understanding is constantly evolving, as are our bodies. Science has to develop ways to test the ethereal,
Define this ‘ethereal’ of which you speak. Science has to start with observation of some sort. Where and how can anything ‘ethereal’ be observed?
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but as long as they are in denial that it exists
And you close with a classic NPF (negative proof theory) request. It is not up to scientists to prove something exists, it is up to those who claim it does to provide the observable evidence on which to base a hypothesis.

Susan

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What is the point of Evolution? 1689 thirdpal 05-Nov-19 18:53
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 252 thirdpal 06-Nov-19 17:39
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 227 thirdpal 13-Nov-19 17:52
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 247 Susan Doris 14-Nov-19 06:11
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 210 thirdpal 14-Nov-19 19:22
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 197 Susan Doris 15-Nov-19 06:08
An accident 191 greengirl5 20-Nov-19 00:01
Re: An accident 188 Susan Doris 20-Nov-19 06:06
No accident 200 greengirl5 20-Nov-19 09:28
Re: No accident 185 tayga 23-Nov-19 08:13
Re: No accident 192 Susan Doris 23-Nov-19 08:33
Re: No accident 180 greengirl5 23-Nov-19 11:13
Re: No accident 165 Susan Doris 24-Nov-19 06:22
Re: No accident 177 greengirl5 24-Nov-19 09:17
Re: No accident 172 Eddie Larry 24-Nov-19 14:06
Re: No accident 167 Susan Doris 24-Nov-19 16:36
Re: No accident 175 Eddie Larry 24-Nov-19 16:52
Re: No accident 165 greengirl5 24-Nov-19 20:26
Re: No accident 165 Eddie Larry 24-Nov-19 23:38
Re: No accident 165 greengirl5 25-Nov-19 00:50
Re: No accident 173 Eddie Larry 25-Nov-19 01:01
Re: No accident 187 Susan Doris 25-Nov-19 07:07
Re: No accident 172 greengirl5 23-Nov-19 11:09
Re: An accident 169 Itatw70s 26-Nov-19 23:44
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 196 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-19 08:08
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 197 thirdpal 14-Nov-19 19:29
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 185 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-19 22:11
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 196 Susan Doris 15-Nov-19 06:36
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 206 thirdpal 15-Nov-19 16:41
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 190 Susan Doris 16-Nov-19 06:08
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 187 thirdpal 18-Nov-19 18:19
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 186 Eddie Larry 18-Nov-19 21:03
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 187 Susan Doris 19-Nov-19 08:27
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 184 thirdpal 19-Nov-19 18:30
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 177 Susan Doris 19-Nov-19 23:31
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 177 thirdpal 20-Nov-19 14:19
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 171 Susan Doris 21-Nov-19 06:24
Einstein again 170 greengirl5 21-Nov-19 12:59
Re: Einstein again 160 Eddie Larry 21-Nov-19 17:27
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 193 thirdpal 21-Nov-19 19:40
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 184 Susan Doris 22-Nov-19 08:21
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 168 tayga 23-Nov-19 13:54
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 171 Eddie Larry 23-Nov-19 14:31
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 192 greengirl5 20-Nov-19 09:34
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 213 thirdpal 20-Nov-19 14:27
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 168 Itatw70s 27-Nov-19 00:19
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 152 Eddie Larry 21-Dec-19 21:08
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 172 gulsbo 23-Dec-19 19:26
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 139 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-19 19:45
Mod Note > Topic Moved 187 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Nov-19 16:07
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 183 gulsbo 26-Nov-19 14:26
Stupid is the word! 179 greengirl5 26-Nov-19 21:28
Re: Stupid is the word! 175 gulsbo 27-Nov-19 16:12
Re: Stupid is the word! 199 Susan Doris 27-Nov-19 17:06
Re: Stupid is the word! 183 gulsbo 27-Nov-19 17:30
Re: Stupid is the word! 181 Eddie Larry 27-Nov-19 18:47
Your problem 187 drrayeye 27-Nov-19 19:20
Re: Your problem 185 Susan Doris 28-Nov-19 06:30
Lets stick to the OP 173 drrayeye 28-Nov-19 10:07
Re: Lets stick to the OP 176 Susan Doris 28-Nov-19 13:48
Re: Your problem 174 gulsbo 28-Nov-19 13:53
Re: Your problem 187 Eddie Larry 28-Nov-19 17:22
Re: Your problem 179 gulsbo 28-Nov-19 19:50
Re: Your problem 180 Eddie Larry 29-Nov-19 00:34
Re: Your problem 180 gulsbo 29-Nov-19 15:49
Re: Your problem 171 Eddie Larry 29-Nov-19 17:30
Re: Your problem 160 gulsbo 30-Nov-19 13:49
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 168 Eddie Larry 30-Nov-19 15:40
Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 156 drrayeye 30-Nov-19 20:58
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 170 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 00:17
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 159 drrayeye 01-Dec-19 04:19
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 165 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 04:35
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 159 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 06:03
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 164 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 14:41
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 163 gulsbo 02-Dec-19 16:30
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 162 drrayeye 03-Dec-19 03:54
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 160 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 21:36
Your "philosophical" evolution 160 drrayeye 04-Dec-19 14:19
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 159 gulsbo 04-Dec-19 15:14
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 156 Glass Jigsaw 04-Dec-19 15:19
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 162 drrayeye 05-Dec-19 08:02
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 163 Susan Doris 05-Dec-19 13:10
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 163 drrayeye 05-Dec-19 19:10
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 160 Glass Jigsaw 03-Dec-19 11:50
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 162 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 21:43
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 158 Susan Doris 04-Dec-19 06:39
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 159 gulsbo 04-Dec-19 06:59
Your "philosophical" evolution 166 drrayeye 04-Dec-19 14:33
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 176 gulsbo 04-Dec-19 15:33
It's still philosophy 159 drrayeye 05-Dec-19 00:06
Re: It's still philosophy 171 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 15:10
Re: It's still philosophy 151 Susan Doris 05-Dec-19 15:33
Re: It's still philosophy 177 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 16:36
Re: It's still philosophy 159 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 01:21
Re: It's still philosophy 177 gulsbo 06-Dec-19 08:02
Re: It's still philosophy 158 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 14:21
Re: It's still philosophy 179 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 11:41
Re: It's still philosophy 154 Susan Doris 07-Dec-19 13:21
Re: It's still philosophy 181 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 22:26
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 161 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 06:00
Scientists don't refute 174 drrayeye 01-Dec-19 06:33
Re: Scientists don't refute 165 Glass Jigsaw 01-Dec-19 19:01
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 176 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 21:27
NOPE 161 drrayeye 02-Dec-19 00:11
Re: NOPE 169 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 01:18
Re: NOPE 168 drrayeye 02-Dec-19 06:28
Re: NOPE 155 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 14:53
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 149 Susan Doris 02-Dec-19 06:04
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 146 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 14:50
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 145 Susan Doris 02-Dec-19 18:05
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 142 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 18:10
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 153 Glass Jigsaw 02-Dec-19 12:52
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 148 drrayeye 02-Dec-19 14:29
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 141 Glass Jigsaw 02-Dec-19 14:49
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 144 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 15:13
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 149 gulsbo 02-Dec-19 16:39
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 144 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 17:39
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 171 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 18:31
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 153 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 13:32
100% faith 149 greengirl5 01-Dec-19 21:17
Re: 100% faith 149 Susan Doris 02-Dec-19 06:27
Re: 99 % faith and something new to do 161 greengirl5 02-Dec-19 20:44
Re: 99 % faith and something new to do 147 Susan Doris 03-Dec-19 06:04
Re: 100% faith 149 Susan Doris 03-Dec-19 16:08
Short email sent 143 greengirl5 03-Dec-19 21:19
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 149 drrayeye 02-Dec-19 00:29
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 148 Susan Doris 02-Dec-19 06:37
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 150 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 05:44
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 148 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 11:39
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 154 Glass Jigsaw 03-Dec-19 12:35
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 149 Eddie Larry 03-Dec-19 18:40
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 156 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 21:54
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 154 Eddie Larry 04-Dec-19 15:37
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 168 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 15:17
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 147 Susan Doris 05-Dec-19 15:37
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 166 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 16:39
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 150 Eddie Larry 05-Dec-19 16:58
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 174 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 20:23
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 149 Eddie Larry 05-Dec-19 23:14
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 146 Glass Jigsaw 06-Dec-19 00:31
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 140 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 01:30
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 158 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 05:03
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 148 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 06:00
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 141 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 17:17
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 131 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 18:24
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 140 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 19:00
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 147 Susan Doris 07-Dec-19 06:08
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 132 Eddie Larry 10-Dec-19 19:20
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 148 Glass Jigsaw 06-Dec-19 12:09
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 143 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 14:37
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 166 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 11:50
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 140 Eddie Larry 07-Dec-19 23:58
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 147 Glass Jigsaw 06-Dec-19 17:59
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 148 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 19:03
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 155 Glass Jigsaw 06-Dec-19 19:28
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 150 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 20:47
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 165 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 11:53
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 139 Glass Jigsaw 07-Dec-19 13:01
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 171 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 22:35
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 152 Glass Jigsaw 08-Dec-19 13:23
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 160 gulsbo 23-Dec-19 12:34
Re: Your problem 163 greengirl5 29-Nov-19 20:51
Re: Your problem 157 Glass Jigsaw 29-Nov-19 19:26
Re: Your problem 154 Susan Doris 30-Nov-19 06:14
Re: Your problem 155 gulsbo 30-Nov-19 14:11
Re: Your problem 143 Glass Jigsaw 30-Nov-19 15:19
Re: Your problem 143 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 06:08
Re: Your problem 152 Eddie Larry 30-Nov-19 15:25
Re: Your problem 149 Glass Jigsaw 30-Nov-19 15:45
Re: Your problem 154 Eddie Larry 30-Nov-19 15:57
Re: Your problem 153 Glass Jigsaw 30-Nov-19 16:04
Re: Your problem 159 gulsbo 30-Nov-19 17:43
Re: Your problem 156 Eddie Larry 30-Nov-19 20:26
Re: Your problem 150 gulsbo 01-Dec-19 14:57
Re: Your problem 152 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 16:36
Re: Your problem 147 gulsbo 02-Dec-19 11:38
Re: Your problem 159 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 14:59
Re: Your problem 150 Glass Jigsaw 02-Dec-19 15:11
Re: Your problem 146 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 17:45
Re: Your problem 154 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 10:54
Re: Your problem 152 Eddie Larry 03-Dec-19 15:11
Re: Your problem 153 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 21:59
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 177 Enigcom 01-Dec-19 04:02
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 165 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 06:17
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 150 Enigcom 04-Dec-19 14:49
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 152 Susan Doris 04-Dec-19 15:36
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 169 gulsbo 01-Dec-19 15:07
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 171 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 16:36
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 159 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 11:09
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 165 Enigcom 04-Dec-19 14:54
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 178 Enigcom 03-Dec-19 18:58
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 190 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 16:41
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 166 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 01:32
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 183 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 11:56
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 155 Susan Doris 07-Dec-19 13:54
Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 162 Mayavitch 07-Dec-19 20:50
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 196 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 22:44
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 156 Mayavitch 07-Dec-19 23:27
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 162 Susan Doris 08-Dec-19 05:55
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 165 Mayavitch 08-Dec-19 17:53
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 147 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 07:13
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 139 Eddie Larry 09-Dec-19 13:33
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 142 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 14:01
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 141 Eddie Larry 09-Dec-19 15:34
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 139 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 18:41
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 137 Eddie Larry 09-Dec-19 20:57
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 142 Susan Doris 10-Dec-19 01:38
Perhaps “bossy” would be better! 141 Eddie Larry 10-Dec-19 19:34
Re: Perhaps “bossy” would be better! 141 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 06:34
Evidence never good enough for some 135 greengirl5 11-Dec-19 11:24
Re: Evidence never good enough for some 132 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 16:13
Re: Perhaps “bossy” would be better! 138 drrayeye 11-Dec-19 11:36
Re: Perhaps “bossy” would be better! 127 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 16:21
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 145 Mayavitch 09-Dec-19 18:55
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 146 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 19:15
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 147 Mayavitch 09-Dec-19 19:34
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 154 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 19:51
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 156 Mayavitch 09-Dec-19 21:13
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 149 Eddie Larry 09-Dec-19 22:45
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 144 Mayavitch 10-Dec-19 22:07
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 138 Eddie Larry 10-Dec-19 23:28
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 161 Susan Doris 10-Dec-19 01:49
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 151 Mayavitch 10-Dec-19 19:21
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 145 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 01:39
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 143 greengirl5 11-Dec-19 11:48
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 148 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 16:35
A tip for you 132 greengirl5 11-Dec-19 21:24
Re: A tip for you 141 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 22:30
Re: A tip for you 143 greengirl5 12-Dec-19 02:45
Re: A tip for you 148 drrayeye 12-Dec-19 14:27
Re: A tip for you 144 Susan Doris 12-Dec-19 15:15
My way 132 drrayeye 12-Dec-19 17:47
Re: My way 143 Susan Doris 12-Dec-19 18:18
All roads lead to beliefs 146 Eddie Larry 12-Dec-19 18:51
Re: All roads lead to beliefs 138 greengirl5 12-Dec-19 22:00
Seek and you will find 137 greengirl5 12-Dec-19 21:58
Re: My way 147 drrayeye 12-Dec-19 23:05
Re: My way 141 Susan Doris 13-Dec-19 06:19
Re: My way 136 Glass Jigsaw 13-Dec-19 11:57
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 139 greengirl5 11-Dec-19 11:38
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 159 D-Archer 10-Dec-19 14:51
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 161 Susan Doris 10-Dec-19 15:18
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 148 D-Archer 12-Dec-19 15:46
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 150 greengirl5 12-Dec-19 22:03
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 193 D-Archer 13-Dec-19 13:26
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 156 drrayeye 10-Dec-19 18:01
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 170 gulsbo 21-Dec-19 21:04
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 141 Kaaron 23-Dec-19 22:09
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 127 Susan Doris 24-Dec-19 07:12
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 152 Kaaron 24-Dec-19 09:54
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 136 Susan Doris 24-Dec-19 18:15
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 140 Eddie Larry 24-Dec-19 18:44
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 163 gulsbo 29-Dec-19 19:36
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 137 Kaaron 29-Dec-19 19:45
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 252 Eddie Larry 29-Dec-19 21:11
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 162 Kaaron 25-Dec-19 07:07
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 178 gulsbo 29-Dec-19 19:30


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