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My reply: Here is what I think is wrong with your conclusions. First off, Thomas Edison said we as human beings only understand 1 millionth of one percent about anything (not a direct quote, but something close to that).
I don’t doubt that he said that. His contributions to science and the world of electricity are rightly acknowledged, respected and are part of our history. However, that does not mean that all his other remarks on other subjects carry the same weight. Do you think he would express the same thoughts in today’s world?
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From the film "What the bleep do we know" - addressing visual perception - "the eye takes in about 400,000 bits of information anytime we look out at the world, but by the time our brain and eyes filter out information (or in my mind, edits out everything we do not understand) only 2000 bits of info are received" (again, not an exact quote). So, what is it we are not seeing
The straightforward answer to that is: everything else beyond our visual field. What you quote here sounds as if it is dealing with focal vision – is the pperipheral area mentioned or included? Remember, I know quite a lot about using the peripheral area.
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our dead grandparents lingering nearby perhaps,
Only if they are still living!
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guardian angels,
If someone wants to imagine entities such as guardian angels, good luck to them. Angels are figments of the imagination. The room for doubt is so vanishingly small that it can be rejected absolutely.
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I'm in the camp with Edison, I think there is so much more to know and the knowledge will change us as a species, hopefully in a way that will keep our home planet healthy.
There is always more to learn and it’s daft to think otherwise. If you wish to think that the totally subjective evidence (i.e. of any kind of supernatural anything) of those in previous times is better than the objective stuff available today, you have of course the freedom to do so, but to delude yourself into thinking it is real is, in my opinion, a mistake and possibly a waste of valuable living and thinking time.
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I pretty much see that as a goal of evolution - to expand our knowledge and learn how to operate in a "kind" way in the universe or multi-verse.
Why do you think that evolution has a goal? How can something that happens as a result of the material ((chemical, etc) world, not directed by anything, be the result of sX’s ‘goal’? There is no evidence at all for such a goal. If you think there is, what is it?
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But, from what I perceive in the many replies I've seen of yours over many years, is that everything is KNOWN, period,
And that is absolute balderdash. I guarantee that I have never said or implied that all is known. I know that to be a statement that cannot be made and I never deliberately tell lies – it is far too difficult to remember what one has said.
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that's the end of it. I could be wrong about you, of course, and frankly I don't have a problem with your opinions and in no way think you are a bad person.
) Well, that’s nice!!!! You may or may not be interested to know that one thing I have learnt about myself in my 83 years is that people find me comfortable and harmonious to be with. The moment I find myself becoming personally irritated by anything people say on this (or any other) forum is the day I leave it – and since that is not going to happen, you’re stuck with me until I die!!
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My reply: reality is flexible, but you would have to understand something about spirit to understand that.
So give me one objective fact about spirits!! A definition would probably be a good idea too.
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Personally, I think Einstein was aware of this. There is plenty of evidence out there that a great deal of science is correct, however, it is always being tweaked with new incoming info and investigations. Thus our understanding is constantly evolving, as are our bodies. Science has to develop ways to test the ethereal,
Define this ‘ethereal’ of which you speak. Science has to start with observation of some sort. Where and how can anything ‘ethereal’ be observed?
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but as long as they are in denial that it exists
And you close with a classic NPF (negative proof theory) request. It is not up to scientists to prove something exists, it is up to those who claim it does to provide the observable evidence on which to base a hypothesis.

Susan

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What is the point of Evolution? 1486 thirdpal 05-Nov-19 18:53
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 184 thirdpal 06-Nov-19 17:39
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 156 thirdpal 13-Nov-19 17:52
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 184 Susan Doris 14-Nov-19 06:11
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 143 thirdpal 14-Nov-19 19:22
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 139 Susan Doris 15-Nov-19 06:08
An accident 134 greengirl5 20-Nov-19 00:01
Re: An accident 129 Susan Doris 20-Nov-19 06:06
No accident 136 greengirl5 20-Nov-19 09:28
Re: No accident 126 tayga 23-Nov-19 08:13
Re: No accident 126 Susan Doris 23-Nov-19 08:33
Re: No accident 119 greengirl5 23-Nov-19 11:13
Re: No accident 111 Susan Doris 24-Nov-19 06:22
Re: No accident 117 greengirl5 24-Nov-19 09:17
Re: No accident 114 Eddie Larry 24-Nov-19 14:06
Re: No accident 111 Susan Doris 24-Nov-19 16:36
Re: No accident 114 Eddie Larry 24-Nov-19 16:52
Re: No accident 108 greengirl5 24-Nov-19 20:26
Re: No accident 107 Eddie Larry 24-Nov-19 23:38
Re: No accident 103 greengirl5 25-Nov-19 00:50
Re: No accident 107 Eddie Larry 25-Nov-19 01:01
Re: No accident 116 Susan Doris 25-Nov-19 07:07
Re: No accident 110 greengirl5 23-Nov-19 11:09
Re: An accident 108 Itatw70s 26-Nov-19 23:44
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 141 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-19 08:08
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 139 thirdpal 14-Nov-19 19:29
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 129 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-19 22:11
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 133 Susan Doris 15-Nov-19 06:36
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 134 thirdpal 15-Nov-19 16:41
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 135 Susan Doris 16-Nov-19 06:08
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 126 thirdpal 18-Nov-19 18:19
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 126 Eddie Larry 18-Nov-19 21:03
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 129 Susan Doris 19-Nov-19 08:27
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 122 thirdpal 19-Nov-19 18:30
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 120 Susan Doris 19-Nov-19 23:31
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 113 thirdpal 20-Nov-19 14:19
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 111 Susan Doris 21-Nov-19 06:24
Einstein again 111 greengirl5 21-Nov-19 12:59
Re: Einstein again 105 Eddie Larry 21-Nov-19 17:27
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 128 thirdpal 21-Nov-19 19:40
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 120 Susan Doris 22-Nov-19 08:21
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 110 tayga 23-Nov-19 13:54
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 108 Eddie Larry 23-Nov-19 14:31
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 132 greengirl5 20-Nov-19 09:34
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 147 thirdpal 20-Nov-19 14:27
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 108 Itatw70s 27-Nov-19 00:19
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 90 Eddie Larry 21-Dec-19 21:08
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 102 gulsbo 23-Dec-19 19:26
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 78 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-19 19:45
Mod Note > Topic Moved 121 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Nov-19 16:07
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 123 gulsbo 26-Nov-19 14:26
Stupid is the word! 120 greengirl5 26-Nov-19 21:28
Re: Stupid is the word! 114 gulsbo 27-Nov-19 16:12
Re: Stupid is the word! 131 Susan Doris 27-Nov-19 17:06
Re: Stupid is the word! 118 gulsbo 27-Nov-19 17:30
Re: Stupid is the word! 119 Eddie Larry 27-Nov-19 18:47
Your problem 121 drrayeye 27-Nov-19 19:20
Re: Your problem 120 Susan Doris 28-Nov-19 06:30
Lets stick to the OP 111 drrayeye 28-Nov-19 10:07
Re: Lets stick to the OP 109 Susan Doris 28-Nov-19 13:48
Re: Your problem 117 gulsbo 28-Nov-19 13:53
Re: Your problem 123 Eddie Larry 28-Nov-19 17:22
Re: Your problem 116 gulsbo 28-Nov-19 19:50
Re: Your problem 122 Eddie Larry 29-Nov-19 00:34
Re: Your problem 116 gulsbo 29-Nov-19 15:49
Re: Your problem 112 Eddie Larry 29-Nov-19 17:30
Re: Your problem 103 gulsbo 30-Nov-19 13:49
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 104 Eddie Larry 30-Nov-19 15:40
Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 100 drrayeye 30-Nov-19 20:58
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 105 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 00:17
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 104 drrayeye 01-Dec-19 04:19
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 103 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 04:35
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 99 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 06:03
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 105 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 14:41
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 103 gulsbo 02-Dec-19 16:30
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 100 drrayeye 03-Dec-19 03:54
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 100 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 21:36
Your "philosophical" evolution 103 drrayeye 04-Dec-19 14:19
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 100 gulsbo 04-Dec-19 15:14
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 98 Glass Jigsaw 04-Dec-19 15:19
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 99 drrayeye 05-Dec-19 08:02
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 100 Susan Doris 05-Dec-19 13:10
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 96 drrayeye 05-Dec-19 19:10
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 102 Glass Jigsaw 03-Dec-19 11:50
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 104 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 21:43
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 98 Susan Doris 04-Dec-19 06:39
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 102 gulsbo 04-Dec-19 06:59
Your "philosophical" evolution 106 drrayeye 04-Dec-19 14:33
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 114 gulsbo 04-Dec-19 15:33
It's still philosophy 104 drrayeye 05-Dec-19 00:06
Re: It's still philosophy 114 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 15:10
Re: It's still philosophy 95 Susan Doris 05-Dec-19 15:33
Re: It's still philosophy 119 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 16:36
Re: It's still philosophy 98 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 01:21
Re: It's still philosophy 120 gulsbo 06-Dec-19 08:02
Re: It's still philosophy 97 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 14:21
Re: It's still philosophy 119 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 11:41
Re: It's still philosophy 99 Susan Doris 07-Dec-19 13:21
Re: It's still philosophy 121 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 22:26
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 102 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 06:00
Scientists don't refute 116 drrayeye 01-Dec-19 06:33
Re: Scientists don't refute 106 Glass Jigsaw 01-Dec-19 19:01
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 110 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 21:27
NOPE 102 drrayeye 02-Dec-19 00:11
Re: NOPE 108 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 01:18
Re: NOPE 104 drrayeye 02-Dec-19 06:28
Re: NOPE 99 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 14:53
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 95 Susan Doris 02-Dec-19 06:04
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 99 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 14:50
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 94 Susan Doris 02-Dec-19 18:05
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 95 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 18:10
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 101 Glass Jigsaw 02-Dec-19 12:52
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 97 drrayeye 02-Dec-19 14:29
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 94 Glass Jigsaw 02-Dec-19 14:49
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 95 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 15:13
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 93 gulsbo 02-Dec-19 16:39
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 91 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 17:39
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 114 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 18:31
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 99 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 13:32
100% faith 100 greengirl5 01-Dec-19 21:17
Re: 100% faith 99 Susan Doris 02-Dec-19 06:27
Re: 99 % faith and something new to do 104 greengirl5 02-Dec-19 20:44
Re: 99 % faith and something new to do 96 Susan Doris 03-Dec-19 06:04
Re: 100% faith 100 Susan Doris 03-Dec-19 16:08
Short email sent 95 greengirl5 03-Dec-19 21:19
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 99 drrayeye 02-Dec-19 00:29
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 93 Susan Doris 02-Dec-19 06:37
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 97 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 05:44
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 94 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 11:39
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 101 Glass Jigsaw 03-Dec-19 12:35
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 99 Eddie Larry 03-Dec-19 18:40
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 99 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 21:54
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 103 Eddie Larry 04-Dec-19 15:37
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 114 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 15:17
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 97 Susan Doris 05-Dec-19 15:37
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 112 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 16:39
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 96 Eddie Larry 05-Dec-19 16:58
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 119 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 20:23
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 100 Eddie Larry 05-Dec-19 23:14
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 95 Glass Jigsaw 06-Dec-19 00:31
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 93 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 01:30
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 100 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 05:03
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 96 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 06:00
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 89 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 17:17
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 86 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 18:24
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 91 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 19:00
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 94 Susan Doris 07-Dec-19 06:08
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 79 Eddie Larry 10-Dec-19 19:20
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 97 Glass Jigsaw 06-Dec-19 12:09
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 94 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 14:37
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 112 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 11:50
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 91 Eddie Larry 07-Dec-19 23:58
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 98 Glass Jigsaw 06-Dec-19 17:59
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 95 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 19:03
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 96 Glass Jigsaw 06-Dec-19 19:28
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 100 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 20:47
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 114 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 11:53
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 90 Glass Jigsaw 07-Dec-19 13:01
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 113 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 22:35
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 98 Glass Jigsaw 08-Dec-19 13:23
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 103 gulsbo 23-Dec-19 12:34
Re: Your problem 110 greengirl5 29-Nov-19 20:51
Re: Your problem 111 Glass Jigsaw 29-Nov-19 19:26
Re: Your problem 105 Susan Doris 30-Nov-19 06:14
Re: Your problem 98 gulsbo 30-Nov-19 14:11
Re: Your problem 97 Glass Jigsaw 30-Nov-19 15:19
Re: Your problem 94 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 06:08
Re: Your problem 99 Eddie Larry 30-Nov-19 15:25
Re: Your problem 98 Glass Jigsaw 30-Nov-19 15:45
Re: Your problem 99 Eddie Larry 30-Nov-19 15:57
Re: Your problem 104 Glass Jigsaw 30-Nov-19 16:04
Re: Your problem 106 gulsbo 30-Nov-19 17:43
Re: Your problem 105 Eddie Larry 30-Nov-19 20:26
Re: Your problem 94 gulsbo 01-Dec-19 14:57
Re: Your problem 101 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 16:36
Re: Your problem 94 gulsbo 02-Dec-19 11:38
Re: Your problem 99 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 14:59
Re: Your problem 99 Glass Jigsaw 02-Dec-19 15:11
Re: Your problem 96 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 17:45
Re: Your problem 98 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 10:54
Re: Your problem 106 Eddie Larry 03-Dec-19 15:11
Re: Your problem 96 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 21:59
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 125 Enigcom 01-Dec-19 04:02
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 116 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 06:17
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 100 Enigcom 04-Dec-19 14:49
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 99 Susan Doris 04-Dec-19 15:36
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 117 gulsbo 01-Dec-19 15:07
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 119 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 16:36
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 109 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 11:09
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 111 Enigcom 04-Dec-19 14:54
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 122 Enigcom 03-Dec-19 18:58
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 137 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 16:41
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 118 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 01:32
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 121 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 11:56
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 105 Susan Doris 07-Dec-19 13:54
Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 105 Mayavitch 07-Dec-19 20:50
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 136 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 22:44
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 106 Mayavitch 07-Dec-19 23:27
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 109 Susan Doris 08-Dec-19 05:55
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 111 Mayavitch 08-Dec-19 17:53
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 97 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 07:13
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 89 Eddie Larry 09-Dec-19 13:33
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 91 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 14:01
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 93 Eddie Larry 09-Dec-19 15:34
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 91 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 18:41
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 88 Eddie Larry 09-Dec-19 20:57
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 89 Susan Doris 10-Dec-19 01:38
Perhaps “bossy” would be better! 89 Eddie Larry 10-Dec-19 19:34
Re: Perhaps “bossy” would be better! 90 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 06:34
Evidence never good enough for some 82 greengirl5 11-Dec-19 11:24
Re: Evidence never good enough for some 83 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 16:13
Re: Perhaps “bossy” would be better! 87 drrayeye 11-Dec-19 11:36
Re: Perhaps “bossy” would be better! 82 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 16:21
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 97 Mayavitch 09-Dec-19 18:55
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 98 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 19:15
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 94 Mayavitch 09-Dec-19 19:34
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 98 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 19:51
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 106 Mayavitch 09-Dec-19 21:13
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 96 Eddie Larry 09-Dec-19 22:45
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 97 Mayavitch 10-Dec-19 22:07
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 93 Eddie Larry 10-Dec-19 23:28
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 107 Susan Doris 10-Dec-19 01:49
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 98 Mayavitch 10-Dec-19 19:21
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 96 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 01:39
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 90 greengirl5 11-Dec-19 11:48
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 100 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 16:35
A tip for you 86 greengirl5 11-Dec-19 21:24
Re: A tip for you 90 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 22:30
Re: A tip for you 94 greengirl5 12-Dec-19 02:45
Re: A tip for you 96 drrayeye 12-Dec-19 14:27
Re: A tip for you 89 Susan Doris 12-Dec-19 15:15
My way 84 drrayeye 12-Dec-19 17:47
Re: My way 92 Susan Doris 12-Dec-19 18:18
All roads lead to beliefs 93 Eddie Larry 12-Dec-19 18:51
Re: All roads lead to beliefs 89 greengirl5 12-Dec-19 22:00
Seek and you will find 90 greengirl5 12-Dec-19 21:58
Re: My way 99 drrayeye 12-Dec-19 23:05
Re: My way 95 Susan Doris 13-Dec-19 06:19
Re: My way 87 Glass Jigsaw 13-Dec-19 11:57
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 91 greengirl5 11-Dec-19 11:38
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 106 D-Archer 10-Dec-19 14:51
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 107 Susan Doris 10-Dec-19 15:18
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 98 D-Archer 12-Dec-19 15:46
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 102 greengirl5 12-Dec-19 22:03
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 114 D-Archer 13-Dec-19 13:26
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 104 drrayeye 10-Dec-19 18:01
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 105 gulsbo 21-Dec-19 21:04
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 92 Kaaron 23-Dec-19 22:09
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 79 Susan Doris 24-Dec-19 07:12
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 95 Kaaron 24-Dec-19 09:54
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 80 Susan Doris 24-Dec-19 18:15
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 87 Eddie Larry 24-Dec-19 18:44
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 98 gulsbo 29-Dec-19 19:36
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 77 Kaaron 29-Dec-19 19:45
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 153 Eddie Larry 29-Dec-19 21:11
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 100 Kaaron 25-Dec-19 07:07
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 92 gulsbo 29-Dec-19 19:30


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