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Hmmmmm, well, that’s a bit of a marathon, but I’ll have a go at answering some of the points!
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Susan: How would you describe the 'ethereal' parts of yourself?
My Reply: In simple terms, soul and spirit, tonal & nagual, depends on the many cultures who have different names for them. Egyptians actually believed in 5 or 6 different bodies (all within one another) in addition to the physical body. Susan, I know this will not be a satisfactory answer for you, but in my experience these other selves exist and have different functions. I think most people are not aware of soul/spirit except in a superficial way – that is until they die.
Of course we are a combination of many different aspects, ideas and experiences, but they are all contained in the one physical body, and that’s a fact whether we think of them differently or not.
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My Reply: Logic is brain centered. Logic is two-dimensional. Add to that, the brain is easily fooled. I operate on heart centered intelligence
You can call it what you like, but even though the whole body works as a unit, and even though it appears that some science has found that the heart reacts as the brain does – a split second before we are aware of what we are going to do or think (although I doubt very much whether this idea that the heart works ahead of the brain is any more than simply a matter of the brain needing a little more energy to do its thinking), I do not accept the idea of ‘heart-centred intelligence’ as any more than a slightly more fanciful way of describing thinking in all its aspects.

To say that 'the brain is secondary to the heart has no physical, objective meaning.

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Me: Well, because I did not create the universe. There has to be some other explanation.
You can have as many ideas of how the universe began as you like, but was not created – that implies a creator. No scientist can, nor will ever be able to, say exatly how the universe started, or whether it is one of a series, etc, but much has been explained, and certainly enough to reject the idea of some other something doing some creating.
[[quote]Me: What about wind, music, emotions (heart based), time, and light. [/quote]
Wind – explained scientifically and objectively.
Music – an evolved aspect of the human brain (and probably of many animals too) to make and imitate sounds which vibrate on similar wavelengths, etc etc.
Emotions – Mountains of evidence about the way all living things have chemicals etc which produce feelings of all sorts and remain evolutionarily selected for for obvious reasons.
Time – a thing which happens and to which humans have given a name.
Light – a natural effect of enormous heat.

I think that will do for now!

Susan

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What is the point of Evolution? 1368 thirdpal 05-Nov-19 18:53
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 153 thirdpal 06-Nov-19 17:39
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 125 thirdpal 13-Nov-19 17:52
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 142 Susan Doris 14-Nov-19 06:11
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 113 thirdpal 14-Nov-19 19:22
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 107 Susan Doris 15-Nov-19 06:08
An accident 102 greengirl5 20-Nov-19 00:01
Re: An accident 97 Susan Doris 20-Nov-19 06:06
No accident 103 greengirl5 20-Nov-19 09:28
Re: No accident 96 tayga 23-Nov-19 08:13
Re: No accident 96 Susan Doris 23-Nov-19 08:33
Re: No accident 91 greengirl5 23-Nov-19 11:13
Re: No accident 79 Susan Doris 24-Nov-19 06:22
Re: No accident 84 greengirl5 24-Nov-19 09:17
Re: No accident 84 Eddie Larry 24-Nov-19 14:06
Re: No accident 80 Susan Doris 24-Nov-19 16:36
Re: No accident 83 Eddie Larry 24-Nov-19 16:52
Re: No accident 78 greengirl5 24-Nov-19 20:26
Re: No accident 76 Eddie Larry 24-Nov-19 23:38
Re: No accident 72 greengirl5 25-Nov-19 00:50
Re: No accident 73 Eddie Larry 25-Nov-19 01:01
Re: No accident 83 Susan Doris 25-Nov-19 07:07
Re: No accident 78 greengirl5 23-Nov-19 11:09
Re: An accident 76 Itatw70s 26-Nov-19 23:44
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 110 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-19 08:08
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 107 thirdpal 14-Nov-19 19:29
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 98 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-19 22:11
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 100 Susan Doris 15-Nov-19 06:36
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 100 thirdpal 15-Nov-19 16:41
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 102 Susan Doris 16-Nov-19 06:08
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 96 thirdpal 18-Nov-19 18:19
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 94 Eddie Larry 18-Nov-19 21:03
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 98 Susan Doris 19-Nov-19 08:27
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 92 thirdpal 19-Nov-19 18:30
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 90 Susan Doris 19-Nov-19 23:31
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 83 thirdpal 20-Nov-19 14:19
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 82 Susan Doris 21-Nov-19 06:24
Einstein again 81 greengirl5 21-Nov-19 12:59
Re: Einstein again 74 Eddie Larry 21-Nov-19 17:27
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 96 thirdpal 21-Nov-19 19:40
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 87 Susan Doris 22-Nov-19 08:21
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 77 tayga 23-Nov-19 13:54
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 76 Eddie Larry 23-Nov-19 14:31
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 99 greengirl5 20-Nov-19 09:34
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 117 thirdpal 20-Nov-19 14:27
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 73 Itatw70s 27-Nov-19 00:19
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 56 Eddie Larry 21-Dec-19 21:08
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 56 gulsbo 23-Dec-19 19:26
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 46 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-19 19:45
Mod Note > Topic Moved 85 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Nov-19 16:07
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 89 gulsbo 26-Nov-19 14:26
Stupid is the word! 84 greengirl5 26-Nov-19 21:28
Re: Stupid is the word! 79 gulsbo 27-Nov-19 16:12
Re: Stupid is the word! 95 Susan Doris 27-Nov-19 17:06
Re: Stupid is the word! 82 gulsbo 27-Nov-19 17:30
Re: Stupid is the word! 81 Eddie Larry 27-Nov-19 18:47
Your problem 85 drrayeye 27-Nov-19 19:20
Re: Your problem 86 Susan Doris 28-Nov-19 06:30
Lets stick to the OP 78 drrayeye 28-Nov-19 10:07
Re: Lets stick to the OP 74 Susan Doris 28-Nov-19 13:48
Re: Your problem 83 gulsbo 28-Nov-19 13:53
Re: Your problem 83 Eddie Larry 28-Nov-19 17:22
Re: Your problem 82 gulsbo 28-Nov-19 19:50
Re: Your problem 88 Eddie Larry 29-Nov-19 00:34
Re: Your problem 80 gulsbo 29-Nov-19 15:49
Re: Your problem 82 Eddie Larry 29-Nov-19 17:30
Re: Your problem 70 gulsbo 30-Nov-19 13:49
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 74 Eddie Larry 30-Nov-19 15:40
Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 71 drrayeye 30-Nov-19 20:58
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 73 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 00:17
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 72 drrayeye 01-Dec-19 04:19
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 71 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 04:35
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 70 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 06:03
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 75 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 14:41
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 73 gulsbo 02-Dec-19 16:30
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 70 drrayeye 03-Dec-19 03:54
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 69 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 21:36
Your "philosophical" evolution 71 drrayeye 04-Dec-19 14:19
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 69 gulsbo 04-Dec-19 15:14
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 68 Glass Jigsaw 04-Dec-19 15:19
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 66 drrayeye 05-Dec-19 08:02
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 67 Susan Doris 05-Dec-19 13:10
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 60 drrayeye 05-Dec-19 19:10
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 71 Glass Jigsaw 03-Dec-19 11:50
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 70 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 21:43
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 67 Susan Doris 04-Dec-19 06:39
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 69 gulsbo 04-Dec-19 06:59
Your "philosophical" evolution 74 drrayeye 04-Dec-19 14:33
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 72 gulsbo 04-Dec-19 15:33
It's still philosophy 72 drrayeye 05-Dec-19 00:06
Re: It's still philosophy 71 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 15:10
Re: It's still philosophy 62 Susan Doris 05-Dec-19 15:33
Re: It's still philosophy 74 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 16:36
Re: It's still philosophy 67 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 01:21
Re: It's still philosophy 74 gulsbo 06-Dec-19 08:02
Re: It's still philosophy 66 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 14:21
Re: It's still philosophy 73 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 11:41
Re: It's still philosophy 69 Susan Doris 07-Dec-19 13:21
Re: It's still philosophy 75 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 22:26
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 71 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 06:00
Scientists don't refute 87 drrayeye 01-Dec-19 06:33
Re: Scientists don't refute 75 Glass Jigsaw 01-Dec-19 19:01
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 78 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 21:27
NOPE 70 drrayeye 02-Dec-19 00:11
Re: NOPE 77 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 01:18
Re: NOPE 71 drrayeye 02-Dec-19 06:28
Re: NOPE 68 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 14:53
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 64 Susan Doris 02-Dec-19 06:04
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 67 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 14:50
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 63 Susan Doris 02-Dec-19 18:05
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 64 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 18:10
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 69 Glass Jigsaw 02-Dec-19 12:52
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 66 drrayeye 02-Dec-19 14:29
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 63 Glass Jigsaw 02-Dec-19 14:49
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 63 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 15:13
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 62 gulsbo 02-Dec-19 16:39
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 59 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 17:39
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 68 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 18:31
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 69 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 13:32
100% faith 69 greengirl5 01-Dec-19 21:17
Re: 100% faith 69 Susan Doris 02-Dec-19 06:27
Re: 99 % faith and something new to do 73 greengirl5 02-Dec-19 20:44
Re: 99 % faith and something new to do 65 Susan Doris 03-Dec-19 06:04
Re: 100% faith 68 Susan Doris 03-Dec-19 16:08
Short email sent 64 greengirl5 03-Dec-19 21:19
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 66 drrayeye 02-Dec-19 00:29
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 62 Susan Doris 02-Dec-19 06:37
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 66 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 05:44
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 62 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 11:39
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 71 Glass Jigsaw 03-Dec-19 12:35
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 66 Eddie Larry 03-Dec-19 18:40
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 66 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 21:54
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 71 Eddie Larry 04-Dec-19 15:37
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 69 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 15:17
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 66 Susan Doris 05-Dec-19 15:37
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 67 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 16:39
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 64 Eddie Larry 05-Dec-19 16:58
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 73 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 20:23
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 66 Eddie Larry 05-Dec-19 23:14
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 62 Glass Jigsaw 06-Dec-19 00:31
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 59 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 01:30
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 65 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 05:03
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 65 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 06:00
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 57 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 17:17
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 55 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 18:24
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 59 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 19:00
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 60 Susan Doris 07-Dec-19 06:08
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 47 Eddie Larry 10-Dec-19 19:20
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 65 Glass Jigsaw 06-Dec-19 12:09
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 63 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 14:37
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 67 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 11:50
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 58 Eddie Larry 07-Dec-19 23:58
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 64 Glass Jigsaw 06-Dec-19 17:59
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 64 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 19:03
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 65 Glass Jigsaw 06-Dec-19 19:28
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 66 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 20:47
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 69 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 11:53
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 60 Glass Jigsaw 07-Dec-19 13:01
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 65 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 22:35
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 63 Glass Jigsaw 08-Dec-19 13:23
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 55 gulsbo 23-Dec-19 12:34
Re: Your problem 78 greengirl5 29-Nov-19 20:51
Re: Your problem 79 Glass Jigsaw 29-Nov-19 19:26
Re: Your problem 74 Susan Doris 30-Nov-19 06:14
Re: Your problem 66 gulsbo 30-Nov-19 14:11
Re: Your problem 65 Glass Jigsaw 30-Nov-19 15:19
Re: Your problem 64 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 06:08
Re: Your problem 68 Eddie Larry 30-Nov-19 15:25
Re: Your problem 68 Glass Jigsaw 30-Nov-19 15:45
Re: Your problem 68 Eddie Larry 30-Nov-19 15:57
Re: Your problem 73 Glass Jigsaw 30-Nov-19 16:04
Re: Your problem 74 gulsbo 30-Nov-19 17:43
Re: Your problem 75 Eddie Larry 30-Nov-19 20:26
Re: Your problem 63 gulsbo 01-Dec-19 14:57
Re: Your problem 70 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 16:36
Re: Your problem 63 gulsbo 02-Dec-19 11:38
Re: Your problem 69 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 14:59
Re: Your problem 67 Glass Jigsaw 02-Dec-19 15:11
Re: Your problem 67 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 17:45
Re: Your problem 67 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 10:54
Re: Your problem 73 Eddie Larry 03-Dec-19 15:11
Re: Your problem 64 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 21:59
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 93 Enigcom 01-Dec-19 04:02
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 86 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 06:17
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 69 Enigcom 04-Dec-19 14:49
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 68 Susan Doris 04-Dec-19 15:36
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 85 gulsbo 01-Dec-19 15:07
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 87 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 16:36
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 77 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 11:09
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 81 Enigcom 04-Dec-19 14:54
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 90 Enigcom 03-Dec-19 18:58
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 93 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 16:41
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 86 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 01:32
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 76 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 11:56
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 71 Susan Doris 07-Dec-19 13:54
Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 74 Mayavitch 07-Dec-19 20:50
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 90 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 22:44
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 75 Mayavitch 07-Dec-19 23:27
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 75 Susan Doris 08-Dec-19 05:55
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 75 Mayavitch 08-Dec-19 17:53
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 63 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 07:13
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 59 Eddie Larry 09-Dec-19 13:33
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 58 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 14:01
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 61 Eddie Larry 09-Dec-19 15:34
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 57 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 18:41
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 57 Eddie Larry 09-Dec-19 20:57
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 58 Susan Doris 10-Dec-19 01:38
Perhaps “bossy” would be better! 57 Eddie Larry 10-Dec-19 19:34
Re: Perhaps “bossy” would be better! 58 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 06:34
Evidence never good enough for some 50 greengirl5 11-Dec-19 11:24
Re: Evidence never good enough for some 51 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 16:13
Re: Perhaps “bossy” would be better! 56 drrayeye 11-Dec-19 11:36
Re: Perhaps “bossy” would be better! 51 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 16:21
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 65 Mayavitch 09-Dec-19 18:55
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 66 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 19:15
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 63 Mayavitch 09-Dec-19 19:34
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 67 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 19:51
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 74 Mayavitch 09-Dec-19 21:13
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 65 Eddie Larry 09-Dec-19 22:45
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 65 Mayavitch 10-Dec-19 22:07
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 62 Eddie Larry 10-Dec-19 23:28
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 74 Susan Doris 10-Dec-19 01:49
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 66 Mayavitch 10-Dec-19 19:21
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 64 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 01:39
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 60 greengirl5 11-Dec-19 11:48
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 69 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 16:35
A tip for you 56 greengirl5 11-Dec-19 21:24
Re: A tip for you 59 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 22:30
Re: A tip for you 63 greengirl5 12-Dec-19 02:45
Re: A tip for you 66 drrayeye 12-Dec-19 14:27
Re: A tip for you 58 Susan Doris 12-Dec-19 15:15
My way 52 drrayeye 12-Dec-19 17:47
Re: My way 60 Susan Doris 12-Dec-19 18:18
All roads lead to beliefs 61 Eddie Larry 12-Dec-19 18:51
Re: All roads lead to beliefs 57 greengirl5 12-Dec-19 22:00
Seek and you will find 58 greengirl5 12-Dec-19 21:58
Re: My way 68 drrayeye 12-Dec-19 23:05
Re: My way 62 Susan Doris 13-Dec-19 06:19
Re: My way 56 Glass Jigsaw 13-Dec-19 11:57
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 60 greengirl5 11-Dec-19 11:38
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 72 D-Archer 10-Dec-19 14:51
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 76 Susan Doris 10-Dec-19 15:18
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 67 D-Archer 12-Dec-19 15:46
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 70 greengirl5 12-Dec-19 22:03
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 76 D-Archer 13-Dec-19 13:26
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 72 drrayeye 10-Dec-19 18:01
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 60 gulsbo 21-Dec-19 21:04
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 56 Kaaron 23-Dec-19 22:09
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 49 Susan Doris 24-Dec-19 07:12
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 57 Kaaron 24-Dec-19 09:54
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 49 Susan Doris 24-Dec-19 18:15
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 55 Eddie Larry 24-Dec-19 18:44
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 53 gulsbo 29-Dec-19 19:36
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 41 Kaaron 29-Dec-19 19:45
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 83 Eddie Larry 29-Dec-19 21:11
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 61 Kaaron 25-Dec-19 07:07
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 48 gulsbo 29-Dec-19 19:30


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