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Hi Rune

It really is safe to say that “our own inevitable mortal death” becomes the foundation for investigating beliefs and facts, and your topic has made me consider what it is that I believe, and see if I can summarise it in a post. But I think I’ll alter something first, to: is there death after life?

Physics somewhat identifies that there is only ever change in states of being when it comes to atomic structure and the parts of not just an atom but the parts of those parts. We may accept that the search for the elusive Higg’s Boson/God Particle may have glimpsed it during extreme scientific investigation, and there may be a description of what it is and what it does, but are we really able to know what it is because of theory and a glimpse of it?

That kind of describes what a belief is when a theory describes ‘life and death’...it just comes down to personal acceptance of what ‘feels’ right, no matter other facts that could upset our feeling. As there are so many beliefs that can be categorised into religions, due to what kind of checklist one has for a religion, there are still so many more beliefs because we personalise the categories and find that we have a little of this or that as part of our religion. Buddhists and others have reincarnation and also the ability to overcome reincarnation, while Christians and others have reincarnation and no ability to overcome it. Death means a change into some other state of being, either on a material level of existence or on a level that is somewhat ‘superstitious’.

Let’s not forget that there is ‘limbo’ or its other titles, where something just kind of rests and waits and is part of the whole while not being of much use.

Electromagnetism pervades the certain location of any existing thing, due to an existing thing’s form, especially when the construction of an atom is broken down to its component parts that interact to form the atom. As much as we can determine, ‘mind’ is electromagnetism.

It kind of seems that ‘mind’ is the glue that keeps components of the whole together, for if ‘mind’ were not there, there would only be parts blind to their own interactions and what the forces of nature can be. For an atom, having no ‘mind’ would mean there is no positive or negative expression of its components interacting...there would be a stillness that really has no meaning beyond being something to fill up empty space...limbo.

It also kind of seems that mankind developed beliefs-becoming-religions because the idea of nothing after death meant all our efforts to live, and what benefits our life could leave behind, might amount to nought if we weren’t still around to appreciate what we are no longer part of. We may have a corpse or may not, but because one has existed, ‘mind’ may still be attached to it in some way, and if so, then it is attached to those still around. In that way, the dead are not gone, just removed to a plane of existence that may still have influence in life all due to how the living view them and the influences they may have upon the living and their ‘demands’. Demands, of course, is what should happen to someone alive.

This delves into superstition and the supernatural, and if we personalise events we are part of as being influenced from some outside force of nature instead of us being in a certain place at a certain time to experience something. And that is ‘mind’ all over...electromagnetism extending beyond a form and its personal existence, out into the surrounds, and how a form interacts with the experience as it moves toward a particular event that has an outcome. For anything that actually has a mind and the ability for reflection upon the past, the event becomes either something that is part and parcel of all such events that may arise, or just one example of a result from certain interactions leading up to an event.

Personally, I do not believe in life after death but I am certain there is death after life...but it is kind of the same as atomic physics where ‘I’ am no more but there are many parts of me that change into other things that ‘I’ am dissolved into and my ‘mind’ has no awareness of. While I am alive, my ‘mind’ does extend beyond my form but only to other forms that are also existing, communicating as it were in ways that many beliefs and religions and sciences can describe but is really hard for me to describe...I can only give over basic descriptions of events and how they were shaped to be arrived at.

I do fail, even to myself, in the appreciation of what is actually going on, so I more-so fail when communicating this to anyone or anything else after the event. But while the event is rising toward its conclusion, all I can do is be in the moment and let it unfold toward what the demands of the event require to be what it is...to be positive or negative, or rest in limbo until another opportunity arises where I have another chance to be part of something that does not become limbo. Sometimes I do more than necessary to meet those demands, other times less, while mostly it seems I do exactly what was necessary because it is, after all, the life I am living.

For the most part, being aware that I am alive is what pervades my thoughts when I settle after my day into sleep as the past and future shake themselves off my now, and I construct – as much as possible – pathways into dreaming. I don’t know what I can do while I am asleep, but I sure know what I am capable of while awake. And that right there is the belief in life after death: are you incapable of doing something while alive and after death is the only realm where you might be able to do something?

If so, sleep on it, and let your dreams be your impetus to greater things for yourself in life instead of for others after your death. You may think you still exist after death, but others may think differently...all depends on what ‘religion’ you have.

Ps: I do so like one definition of religion: belief in the self. Nothing matters beyond what we believe, for we are the only one who knows what is inside our head when we drift away.

Thanks for the opportunity to indulge in making wonderment reference. I salute you Rune. Slainte

if balls can dangle and balloons can float and a piece of string the important thing, hold on tight

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BEYOND DEATH'S DOOR? - A Mirror 2300 Rune 30-Aug-19 12:32
Re: DEATH - A Comma not Full Stop 203 Susan Doris 30-Aug-19 12:53
Re: DEATH - A Comma not Full Stop 201 greengirl5 30-Aug-19 13:31
Thanks! 180 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 13:36
Re: DEATH - A Comma not Full Stop 180 CJD1965 04-Sep-19 22:11
Re: DEATH - A Comma not Full Stop 176 Itatw70s 05-Sep-19 23:25
Re: DEATH - The BIG Taboo of our Secular Age 176 Rune 10-Sep-19 09:12
Re: DEATH - The BIG Taboo of our Secular Age 174 Itatw70s 10-Sep-19 11:31
Re: DEATH - The BIG Taboo of our Secular Age 155 greengirl5 11-Sep-19 03:53
We're doing a seminar at my church 166 drrayeye 10-Sep-19 23:09
Re: DEATH - The BIG Taboo of our Secular Age 155 drew 11-Sep-19 08:16
I'll try a bit better... 155 drew 13-Sep-19 03:39
Re: DEATH'S STING - waiting for us all - sting or sojourn? 146 Rune 17-Sep-19 09:02
Re: DEATH'S STING - waiting for us all - sting or sojourn? 153 Susan Doris 17-Sep-19 10:46
Re: DEATH'S STING - waiting for us all - sting or sojourn? 173 cloister 17-Sep-19 12:36
Re: DEATH'S STING - waiting for us all - sting or sojourn? 165 Susan Doris 17-Sep-19 15:12
Re: DEATH'S STING - waiting for us all - sting or sojourn? 176 cloister 17-Sep-19 18:59
Oh Oh 145 drrayeye 17-Sep-19 21:14
Re: DEATH'S STING - waiting for us all - sting or sojourn? 172 Susan Doris 17-Sep-19 21:43
Pascal's wager 149 drrayeye 18-Sep-19 00:14
Re: Pascal's wager 141 Eddie Larry 18-Sep-19 02:17
The deeper analysis 138 drrayeye 18-Sep-19 02:31
Re: The deeper analysis 141 Eddie Larry 18-Sep-19 03:52
You can go deeper 138 drrayeye 18-Sep-19 05:44
Re: You can go deeper 146 Susan Doris 18-Sep-19 06:46
I don't think it would work for you 142 drrayeye 18-Sep-19 08:50
Is this the right room for an argument? 146 grangram 18-Sep-19 09:34
Re: Is this the right room for an argument? 132 drrayeye 18-Sep-19 11:24
Re: Is this the right room for an argument? 142 Susan Doris 18-Sep-19 11:55
Re: Is this the right room for an argument? 136 Eddie Larry 18-Sep-19 13:51
Re: Is this the right room for an argument? 131 grangram 23-Sep-19 10:18
Re: Is this the right room for an argument? 119 Eddie Larry 13-Oct-19 19:32
Re: I don't think it would work for you 136 Susan Doris 18-Sep-19 11:11
Re: I don't think it would work for you 137 drrayeye 18-Sep-19 16:58
Re: DEATH'S STING - waiting for us all - sting or sojourn? 164 cloister 18-Sep-19 06:02
Re: DEATH'S STING - waiting for us all - sting or sojourn? 154 Susan Doris 18-Sep-19 06:50
Re: DEATH'S STING - waiting for us all - sting or sojourn? 138 Eddie Larry 18-Sep-19 13:57
Re: DEATH'S STING - waiting for us all - sting or sojourn? 143 Susan Doris 18-Sep-19 14:43
Re: DEATH'S STING - waiting for us all - sting or sojourn? 135 Eddie Larry 18-Sep-19 15:31
Re: DEATH'S STING - waiting for us all - sting or sojourn? 148 Susan Doris 18-Sep-19 16:58
Re: DEATH'S STING - waiting for us all - sting or sojourn? 139 Eddie Larry 18-Sep-19 19:22
the time you spend "here" 148 drrayeye 18-Sep-19 19:58
Re: the time you spend "here" 141 Susan Doris 19-Sep-19 05:21
Re: the time you spend "here" 142 drrayeye 19-Sep-19 08:08
Every human being is a Universal Investment... 122 Itatw70s 19-Oct-19 19:03
Re: DEATH'S STING - waiting for us all - sting or sojourn? 173 Mayavitch 16-Nov-19 18:29
“Oh Wow, Oh Wow, Oh Wow!” 140 grangram 22-Sep-19 06:45
Re: “Oh Wow, Oh Wow, Oh Wow!” 145 Susan Doris 22-Sep-19 08:35
clinical rule 136 drrayeye 23-Sep-19 09:16
Re: clinical ule 134 Susan Doris 23-Sep-19 11:50
Interpreting phenomenal reports 137 drrayeye 23-Sep-19 13:44
Re: Interpreting phenomenal reports 149 Susan Doris 23-Sep-19 14:52
Re: Interpreting phenomenal reports 114 Itatw70s 19-Oct-19 20:20
In Search Of The Afterlife interview 139 grangram 22-Sep-19 11:43
Re: In Search Of The Afterlife interview 146 Susan Doris 22-Sep-19 12:44
Why study something that does not exist? 120 Richard Fusniak 22-Oct-19 21:35
Re: Why study something that does not exist? 117 Susan Doris 23-Oct-19 01:03
Re: DEATH'S STING - what lies beyond? 131 Rune 13-Oct-19 11:16
Re: DEATH'S STING - what lies beyond? 126 Susan Doris 13-Oct-19 11:42
Re: DEATH'S STING - what lies beyond? 142 Eddie Larry 13-Oct-19 19:33
Re: BEYOND DEATH'S DOOR? - A Mirror 128 Rune 19-Oct-19 10:17
Re: BEYOND DEATH'S DOOR? - A Mirror 127 Itatw70s 20-Oct-19 01:16
When I die 123 grangram 20-Oct-19 06:30
Re: When I die 121 Itatw70s 20-Oct-19 14:57
I don't like it either Tom 112 grangram 03-Nov-19 09:13
Re: I don't like it either Tom 103 Glass Jigsaw 07-Nov-19 02:26
Astronauts 102 grangram 10-Nov-19 19:09
Re: BEYOND DEATH'S DOOR? - A Mirror 133 rulebook54 25-Oct-19 08:58


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