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Poster Boy Wrote:
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> Susan Doris Wrote:
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> > This post appears to indicate a large chip on
> > shoulder.
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> Hi Susan, I see it in much the opposite terms.
> Perhaps you were set off by the compromises that
> academics have to make, constantly, when they look
> for funding? Lots of straight jackets to wear in
> that game.

Mark,

In the US, medicine is not an academic field--the schools of medicine are separate from the rest of the university. Without the assured salary of socialized medicine, the MD becomes an entrepreneur--and research is just a buzzword used to solicit donations: true scientific research doesn't pay.

There is true scientific research funded federally by NIH--and most of the applicants are from the university: with Ph. D's. Schools of Medicine collaborate with their universities in providing facilities and patients--and hospitalization data. Collaborating teams are developed--with the MD as a prominent member of the team. With additional donation money available to add to the pot, the MD often ends up calling the shots: can be the PI on published studies.

The MD can also sweeten his paycheck by providing patients from his private clinic(s).

The MD clinician and the Ph. D. scientific investigator look at life differently here.

Ray

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Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 1459 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 19:46
Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 98 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 13:28
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 92 Poster Boy 30-Aug-19 17:07
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 102 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 17:29
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 87 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 19:12
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 105 Susan Doris 30-Aug-19 14:53
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 102 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 15:37
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 89 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 20:30
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 87 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 22:04
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 87 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 23:10
Empirical science and spiritual experiences 79 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 23:59
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 85 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 00:09
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 95 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 00:40
Spirituality is one's whole inner and outer character; there is no division.... 91 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 01:32
The Christian alternative: asceticism 84 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:49
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 96 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 01:55
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 90 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 02:14
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 105 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 20:53
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 82 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 23:08
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 77 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 18:08
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 78 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 19:03
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 73 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 20:39
This thread is about science 72 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 21:08
Re: This thread is about science 76 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 21:31
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 89 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:01
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 87 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 01:45
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 98 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 02:18
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 75 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:29
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 83 Jrevans 31-Aug-19 01:02
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 83 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:44
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 99 jazzmumbles 31-Aug-19 01:25
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 89 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:37
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 92 jazzmumbles 31-Aug-19 02:42
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 82 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:58
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 77 Itatw70s 01-Sep-19 20:31
NOPE 80 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 22:47
Re: NOPE 81 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 20:59
Science is not a threat 90 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 21:11
Re: Science is not a threat 89 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 21:37
Re: Science is not a threat 89 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 03:00
Re: Science is not a threat 72 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 06:04
Re: Science is not a threat 79 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 07:31
Re: Science is not a threat 72 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 07:47
Of course 84 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 08:05
Re: Of course 77 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 10:14
Re: Of course 83 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 11:40
Just Passing Through 100 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 12:54
"There is nowhere where there is not God".... 74 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 22:17
Agreed 83 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 23:58
philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 86 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 11:54
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 92 Susan Doris 31-Aug-19 15:09
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 82 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 15:56
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 80 Susan Doris 31-Aug-19 17:51
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 91 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 18:49
Thought experimentation is the key.... 86 Itatw70s 01-Sep-19 21:03
From Descartes to the present 91 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 18:20
Re: From Descartes to the present 92 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 05:12
You can lead a horse to water . . . 90 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 06:20
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 104 jazzmumbles 02-Sep-19 00:18
Nah 89 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 06:48
No not an extra you are the star. 107 grangram 03-Sep-19 07:39
Sorry 100 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 08:44
I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 86 grangram 04-Sep-19 08:02
Re: I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 89 drrayeye 04-Sep-19 13:15
Re: I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 85 Poster Boy 04-Sep-19 19:44
The greatest cult of all... 80 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-19 21:08
Re: The greatest cult of all... 86 Itatw70s 04-Sep-19 22:55
Re: The greatest cult of all... 77 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-19 23:01
Re: The greatest cult of all... 91 Itatw70s 04-Sep-19 23:05
Re: The greatest cult of all... 76 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-19 02:16
Human imagination 73 grangram 05-Sep-19 10:00
Re: Human imagination 76 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-19 19:34
The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 99 grangram 05-Sep-19 08:29
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 90 Itatw70s 05-Sep-19 11:41
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 86 grangram 05-Sep-19 11:57
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 79 Susan Doris 05-Sep-19 12:18
Lazy Lazy Lazy 89 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 16:12
Re: Lazy Lazy Lazy 79 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:01
The links are there 79 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 07:06
Re: The links are there 82 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 12:21
Re: The links are there 81 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 12:51
Re: The links are there 77 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 16:07
Further thoughts 66 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 17:56
Re: The links are there 72 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 12:40
Re: The links are there 71 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 16:26
Re: The links are there 71 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 18:12
One of the things I've learned 70 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 19:19
Re: One of the things I've learned 73 Poster Boy 06-Sep-19 19:47
Re: One of the things I've learned 78 Susan Doris 07-Sep-19 05:26
Dr. Sam 72 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 06:35
Re: Dr. Sam 75 Susan Doris 07-Sep-19 07:01
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 82 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 20:15
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 80 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:05
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 83 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 20:13
Strongly disagree 91 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 21:09
Re: Strongly disagree 86 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 21:28
The visual field (brain) and the visual world (mind) 98 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 20:28
Re: The visual field (brain) and the visual world (mind) 82 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:12
I did 86 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 07:20
Thanks 90 grangram 06-Sep-19 08:14
Re: No not an extra you are the star. 99 jazzmumbles 07-Sep-19 22:14
Re: No not an extra you are the star. 76 grangram 11-Sep-19 20:26
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 73 grangram 11-Sep-19 20:12
medical science is an oxymoron 84 drrayeye 11-Sep-19 21:41
Thank God for plumbers and electricians 82 grangram 13-Sep-19 07:38
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 86 Susan Doris 13-Sep-19 10:30
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 71 Poster Boy 13-Sep-19 16:09
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 69 Eddie Larry 13-Sep-19 17:48
medicine vs. science 69 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 17:52
Re: medicine vs. science 76 Poster Boy 13-Sep-19 18:19
A critical distinction 77 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 19:50
Save a prayer for the scientist 81 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 11:03
James 2:14 78 grangram 14-Sep-19 11:34
Re: James 2:14 82 drrayeye 14-Sep-19 15:24
Pence's health care 73 grangram 15-Sep-19 22:18
Second Timothy 2: 15 114 drrayeye 16-Sep-19 00:32
Re: James 2:14 72 Glass Jigsaw 15-Sep-19 20:26
It's always different 60 drrayeye 16-Sep-19 00:17


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