This post appears to indicate a large chip on shoulder.

Susan

grangram Wrote:
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> Be careful Ray you don't become a member of the
> Scientism club. What a sheltered life you have
> led, I have found in every walk of life, if you
> are an employee its always the employer who
> benefits the most. You didn't mention funding Ray
> what do these 'real scientists' do if there field
> of study is not supported? Who do they have to do
> a dance for, to get the funding? But lets not go
> to far into the obvious problems of our modern
> society. “
> It is a shame you didn't appreciate what the study
> revealed or should I say what the people
> experienced and talked about! Like the what
> effects of 'knowing the self' can and would do if
> everyone could experience this wonder. But we miss
> the mark, living in our made up world of concepts
> and ideals we have considered and discussed
> amongst our selves. What big egos we have, yet all
> around the world burns.
> The pastor of Riverside megachurch Jarred Wilson
> could definitely have done with the experience
> offered in the study, by these mudfuds.
> [www.latimes.com]
> 2/california-megachurch-pastor-mental-health-suici
> de
> “Kabir This world is a house made of wood, and,
> lo! it is burning furiously;
> He who stays in it dies.
> The Yogi withdraws from it in meditation and he is
> saved.
> Thy birth as man is a ripe fruit which is seen
> only once; make the most of the practice of
> devotion and compassion and the acquisition of
> true Knowledge.
> O Kabîr, there is a way out of this illusory
> world: Know the soul at any cost. “
> I was lucky to find a way, through traditional Raj
> yoga (Yoga does not mean wrapping your legs around
> your neck, how would a disabled person find inner
> peace that way. Yoga = Union), seeing and being
> engulfed in 'ITs' power and love is beyond words,
> (Dr Jb taylor said, “Euphoria! Euphoria!”) it
> changed my attitude to life in such a wonderful
> loving and peaceful way. By the way She had no
> prior training in focusing her mind to stillness,
> she could have experienced much more.
> Funny thing in India they have always treated
> their teachers with honour, the title for a King
> is Raja and the tittle of a great teacher is Raji,
> they say God is every where but without teacher)
> how we would we know our selves, certainly not
> through reading ANY religious text or texts,
> chanting, candles, whale music, yoga mats/shoes. I
> am, after experiencing one for myself, in
> agreement with them.
> I have posted you a few vids of a spiritual
> nature, have you not noticed that for what ever
> reason when the mind shuts up people can
> experience their 'Ground of Being', 'The Elan
> Vital' and so touch the Divine? here's a poem of
> Ravidas put to music,
> [www.youtube.com]
> DBR6uYnqYICg&index=2 hit the translate button for
> english
>
> A bit of history. At the time of Ravidas, Kabir,
> Nanak and others, people lived through very bad
> times for India, it had been at war for many, many
> years culminating in the Moghal Empires total
> destruction of Delhi. These mystic saints brought
> a message of peace and love, at this dreadful time
> and far better than that, the way to enjoin with
> the divine. The Sikh teachers revered them so much
> they put their poems and prose in to their book of
> spiritual sayings, the 'Guru Granth Sahid'
>
> Sorry for the delay and some what bitty response I
> am not well at the moment. malc