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Be careful Ray you don't become a member of the Scientism club. What a sheltered life you have led, I have found in every walk of life, if you are an employee its always the employer who benefits the most. You didn't mention funding Ray what do these 'real scientists' do if there field of study is not supported? Who do they have to do a dance for, to get the funding? But lets not go to far into the obvious problems of our modern society. “
It is a shame you didn't appreciate what the study revealed or should I say what the people experienced and talked about! Like the what effects of 'knowing the self' can and would do if everyone could experience this wonder. But we miss the mark, living in our made up world of concepts and ideals we have considered and discussed amongst our selves. What big egos we have, yet all around the world burns.
The pastor of Riverside megachurch Jarred Wilson could definitely have done with the experience offered in the study, by these mudfuds.
[www.latimes.com]
“Kabir This world is a house made of wood, and, lo! it is burning furiously;
He who stays in it dies.
The Yogi withdraws from it in meditation and he is saved.
Thy birth as man is a ripe fruit which is seen only once; make the most of the practice of devotion and compassion and the acquisition of true Knowledge.
O Kabîr, there is a way out of this illusory world: Know the soul at any cost. “
I was lucky to find a way, through traditional Raj yoga (Yoga does not mean wrapping your legs around your neck, how would a disabled person find inner peace that way. Yoga = Union), seeing and being engulfed in 'ITs' power and love is beyond words, (Dr Jb taylor said, “Euphoria! Euphoria!”) it changed my attitude to life in such a wonderful loving and peaceful way. By the way She had no prior training in focusing her mind to stillness, she could have experienced much more.
Funny thing in India they have always treated their teachers with honour, the title for a King is Raja and the tittle of a great teacher is Raji, they say God is every where but without teacher) how we would we know our selves, certainly not through reading ANY religious text or texts, chanting, candles, whale music, yoga mats/shoes. I am, after experiencing one for myself, in agreement with them.
I have posted you a few vids of a spiritual nature, have you not noticed that for what ever reason when the mind shuts up people can experience their 'Ground of Being', 'The Elan Vital' and so touch the Divine? here's a poem of Ravidas put to music,
[www.youtube.com] hit the translate button for english

A bit of history. At the time of Ravidas, Kabir, Nanak and others, people lived through very bad times for India, it had been at war for many, many years culminating in the Moghal Empires total destruction of Delhi. These mystic saints brought a message of peace and love, at this dreadful time and far better than that, the way to enjoin with the divine. The Sikh teachers revered them so much they put their poems and prose in to their book of spiritual sayings, the 'Guru Granth Sahid'

Sorry for the delay and some what bitty response I am not well at the moment. malc

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Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 1546 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 19:46
Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 122 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 13:28
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 115 Poster Boy 30-Aug-19 17:07
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 131 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 17:29
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 112 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 19:12
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 135 Susan Doris 30-Aug-19 14:53
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 127 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 15:37
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 116 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 20:30
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 112 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 22:04
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 112 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 23:10
Empirical science and spiritual experiences 101 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 23:59
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 107 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 00:09
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 121 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 00:40
Spirituality is one's whole inner and outer character; there is no division.... 117 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 01:32
The Christian alternative: asceticism 104 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:49
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 123 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 01:55
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 118 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 02:14
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 134 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 20:53
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 107 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 23:08
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 99 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 18:08
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 102 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 19:03
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 98 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 20:39
This thread is about science 95 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 21:08
Re: This thread is about science 98 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 21:31
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 116 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:01
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 112 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 01:45
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 132 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 02:18
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 97 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:29
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 109 Jrevans 31-Aug-19 01:02
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 108 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:44
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 128 jazzmumbles 31-Aug-19 01:25
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 112 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:37
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 117 jazzmumbles 31-Aug-19 02:42
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 105 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:58
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 102 Itatw70s 01-Sep-19 20:31
NOPE 104 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 22:47
Re: NOPE 105 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 20:59
Science is not a threat 117 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 21:11
Re: Science is not a threat 110 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 21:37
Re: Science is not a threat 115 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 03:00
Re: Science is not a threat 98 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 06:04
Re: Science is not a threat 114 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 07:31
Re: Science is not a threat 97 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 07:47
Of course 106 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 08:05
Re: Of course 100 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 10:14
Re: Of course 104 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 11:40
Just Passing Through 131 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 12:54
"There is nowhere where there is not God".... 101 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 22:17
Agreed 111 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 23:58
philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 109 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 11:54
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 116 Susan Doris 31-Aug-19 15:09
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 104 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 15:56
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 103 Susan Doris 31-Aug-19 17:51
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 116 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 18:49
Thought experimentation is the key.... 113 Itatw70s 01-Sep-19 21:03
From Descartes to the present 115 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 18:20
Re: From Descartes to the present 117 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 05:12
You can lead a horse to water . . . 114 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 06:20
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 128 jazzmumbles 02-Sep-19 00:18
Nah 114 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 06:48
No not an extra you are the star. 137 grangram 03-Sep-19 07:39
Sorry 133 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 08:44
I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 109 grangram 04-Sep-19 08:02
Re: I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 121 drrayeye 04-Sep-19 13:15
Re: I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 111 Poster Boy 04-Sep-19 19:44
The greatest cult of all... 103 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-19 21:08
Re: The greatest cult of all... 117 Itatw70s 04-Sep-19 22:55
Re: The greatest cult of all... 98 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-19 23:01
Re: The greatest cult of all... 115 Itatw70s 04-Sep-19 23:05
Re: The greatest cult of all... 99 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-19 02:16
Human imagination 95 grangram 05-Sep-19 10:00
Re: Human imagination 99 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-19 19:34
The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 128 grangram 05-Sep-19 08:29
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 117 Itatw70s 05-Sep-19 11:41
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 115 grangram 05-Sep-19 11:57
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 103 Susan Doris 05-Sep-19 12:18
Lazy Lazy Lazy 114 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 16:12
Re: Lazy Lazy Lazy 104 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:01
The links are there 103 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 07:06
Re: The links are there 106 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 12:21
Re: The links are there 104 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 12:51
Re: The links are there 102 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 16:07
Further thoughts 87 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 17:56
Re: The links are there 97 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 12:40
Re: The links are there 94 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 16:26
Re: The links are there 94 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 18:12
One of the things I've learned 91 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 19:19
Re: One of the things I've learned 97 Poster Boy 06-Sep-19 19:47
Re: One of the things I've learned 101 Susan Doris 07-Sep-19 05:26
Dr. Sam 95 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 06:35
Re: Dr. Sam 96 Susan Doris 07-Sep-19 07:01
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 105 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 20:15
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 108 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:05
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 108 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 20:13
Strongly disagree 122 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 21:09
Re: Strongly disagree 108 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 21:28
The visual field (brain) and the visual world (mind) 133 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 20:28
Re: The visual field (brain) and the visual world (mind) 105 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:12
I did 108 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 07:20
Thanks 117 grangram 06-Sep-19 08:14
Re: No not an extra you are the star. 126 jazzmumbles 07-Sep-19 22:14
Re: No not an extra you are the star. 102 grangram 11-Sep-19 20:26
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 96 grangram 11-Sep-19 20:12
medical science is an oxymoron 112 drrayeye 11-Sep-19 21:41
Thank God for plumbers and electricians 108 grangram 13-Sep-19 07:38
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 115 Susan Doris 13-Sep-19 10:30
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 93 Poster Boy 13-Sep-19 16:09
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 94 Eddie Larry 13-Sep-19 17:48
medicine vs. science 93 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 17:52
Re: medicine vs. science 102 Poster Boy 13-Sep-19 18:19
A critical distinction 98 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 19:50
Save a prayer for the scientist 105 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 11:03
James 2:14 100 grangram 14-Sep-19 11:34
Re: James 2:14 105 drrayeye 14-Sep-19 15:24
Pence's health care 97 grangram 15-Sep-19 22:18
Second Timothy 2: 15 160 drrayeye 16-Sep-19 00:32
Re: James 2:14 96 Glass Jigsaw 15-Sep-19 20:26
It's always different 80 drrayeye 16-Sep-19 00:17


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