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Susan Doris Wrote:
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where he refused to use braille even though
> he knew it.

Susan: I'd call that a false pride.

Ray: There was nothing false about Sam He refused to be considered or to consider himself to be handicapped--and he wasn't. After spending my first day with him at the center for the partially sighted, I realized that I was the one who was handicapped. He was able to do things that the partially sighted weren't supposed to be able to do--effortlessly.


I do not know
> statistically how many people who learn and use
> braille when they lose sight later in life, but I
> think the numbers are low. To be able to pick up
> and read a physical book, to turn the pages, to be
> able to read without light, etc - well it was well
> worth every effort and persistence for years as I
> have found every day of my life since. This person
> you are talking about evidently had an element of
> focal vision, unless you can show that he was
> unable to read even large print at more than a
> single word at a time.
>

Ray: (from article)
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He preferred to use what little sight he
had, even if it meant holding a book up to his
nose.

Susan: Of course, but he could still do that.

Ray: not very well--that's why he invented his first device--a primitive version of what you use today. It opened the gates to funded projects like his device worldwide. You don't know it, but your ability to participate at GHMB today is partially due to the genius and special character of Dr. Sam Genensky.

I can't,
> but it is only rarely that, when the computer goes
> wrong, I've had to have yet another course of
> anti-biotics, when the prospect of not being able
> to continue dancing with the same amount of energy
> as before all come at once, I do give in to a
> moment or so of self pity.
>
> Stop thinking you know more about being blind than
> me!!
>
> Oh, and by the way, people talking about the
> number of well-known people they know or are
> acquainted with has never impressed me in the way
> they think it should.

Ray: Sam's life had an especially happy ending, since the ophthalmologists at the nearby Jules Stein Eye Institute found a way to surgically partially restore Sam's eyesight. He joyfully took trips all over the world to actually see all the places he had only fantasied about for over 70 years.

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Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 1377 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 19:46
Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 76 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 13:28
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 73 Poster Boy 30-Aug-19 17:07
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 73 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 17:29
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 68 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 19:12
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 76 Susan Doris 30-Aug-19 14:53
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 77 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 15:37
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 66 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 20:30
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 66 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 22:04
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 61 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 23:10
Empirical science and spiritual experiences 61 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 23:59
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 63 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 00:09
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 65 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 00:40
Spirituality is one's whole inner and outer character; there is no division.... 67 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 01:32
The Christian alternative: asceticism 67 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:49
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 72 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 01:55
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 66 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 02:14
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 74 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 20:53
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 60 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 23:08
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 56 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 18:08
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 55 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 19:03
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 54 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 20:39
This thread is about science 53 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 21:08
Re: This thread is about science 54 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 21:31
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 59 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:01
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 64 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 01:45
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 61 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 02:18
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 55 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:29
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 64 Jrevans 31-Aug-19 01:02
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 61 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:44
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 67 jazzmumbles 31-Aug-19 01:25
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 66 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:37
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 67 jazzmumbles 31-Aug-19 02:42
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 63 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:58
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 59 Itatw70s 01-Sep-19 20:31
NOPE 58 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 22:47
Re: NOPE 59 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 20:59
Science is not a threat 61 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 21:11
Re: Science is not a threat 63 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 21:37
Re: Science is not a threat 60 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 03:00
Re: Science is not a threat 51 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 06:04
Re: Science is not a threat 49 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 07:31
Re: Science is not a threat 54 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 07:47
Of course 55 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 08:05
Re: Of course 57 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 10:14
Re: Of course 64 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 11:40
Just Passing Through 71 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 12:54
"There is nowhere where there is not God".... 57 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 22:17
Agreed 58 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 23:58
philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 68 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 11:54
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 69 Susan Doris 31-Aug-19 15:09
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 61 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 15:56
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 61 Susan Doris 31-Aug-19 17:51
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 68 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 18:49
Thought experimentation is the key.... 59 Itatw70s 01-Sep-19 21:03
From Descartes to the present 72 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 18:20
Re: From Descartes to the present 67 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 05:12
You can lead a horse to water . . . 73 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 06:20
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 77 jazzmumbles 02-Sep-19 00:18
Nah 70 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 06:48
No not an extra you are the star. 78 grangram 03-Sep-19 07:39
Sorry 71 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 08:44
I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 68 grangram 04-Sep-19 08:02
Re: I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 63 drrayeye 04-Sep-19 13:15
Re: I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 63 Poster Boy 04-Sep-19 19:44
The greatest cult of all... 61 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-19 21:08
Re: The greatest cult of all... 57 Itatw70s 04-Sep-19 22:55
Re: The greatest cult of all... 58 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-19 23:01
Re: The greatest cult of all... 62 Itatw70s 04-Sep-19 23:05
Re: The greatest cult of all... 55 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-19 02:16
Human imagination 54 grangram 05-Sep-19 10:00
Re: Human imagination 55 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-19 19:34
The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 67 grangram 05-Sep-19 08:29
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 62 Itatw70s 05-Sep-19 11:41
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 57 grangram 05-Sep-19 11:57
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 60 Susan Doris 05-Sep-19 12:18
Lazy Lazy Lazy 64 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 16:12
Re: Lazy Lazy Lazy 54 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:01
The links are there 56 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 07:06
Re: The links are there 55 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 12:21
Re: The links are there 56 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 12:51
Re: The links are there 56 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 16:07
Further thoughts 46 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 17:56
Re: The links are there 51 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 12:40
Re: The links are there 50 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 16:26
Re: The links are there 53 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 18:12
One of the things I've learned 51 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 19:19
Re: One of the things I've learned 54 Poster Boy 06-Sep-19 19:47
Re: One of the things I've learned 54 Susan Doris 07-Sep-19 05:26
Dr. Sam 50 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 06:35
Re: Dr. Sam 57 Susan Doris 07-Sep-19 07:01
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 61 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 20:15
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 54 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:05
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 63 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 20:13
Strongly disagree 63 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 21:09
Re: Strongly disagree 67 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 21:28
The visual field (brain) and the visual world (mind) 68 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 20:28
Re: The visual field (brain) and the visual world (mind) 65 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:12
I did 65 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 07:20
Thanks 63 grangram 06-Sep-19 08:14
Re: No not an extra you are the star. 68 jazzmumbles 07-Sep-19 22:14
Re: No not an extra you are the star. 53 grangram 11-Sep-19 20:26
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 54 grangram 11-Sep-19 20:12
medical science is an oxymoron 61 drrayeye 11-Sep-19 21:41
Thank God for plumbers and electricians 52 grangram 13-Sep-19 07:38
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 55 Susan Doris 13-Sep-19 10:30
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 53 Poster Boy 13-Sep-19 16:09
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 50 Eddie Larry 13-Sep-19 17:48
medicine vs. science 51 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 17:52
Re: medicine vs. science 57 Poster Boy 13-Sep-19 18:19
A critical distinction 57 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 19:50
Save a prayer for the scientist 63 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 11:03
James 2:14 59 grangram 14-Sep-19 11:34
Re: James 2:14 61 drrayeye 14-Sep-19 15:24
Pence's health care 52 grangram 15-Sep-19 22:18
Second Timothy 2: 15 79 drrayeye 16-Sep-19 00:32
Re: James 2:14 53 Glass Jigsaw 15-Sep-19 20:26
It's always different 43 drrayeye 16-Sep-19 00:17


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