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Susan Doris Wrote:
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where he refused to use braille even though
> he knew it.

Susan: I'd call that a false pride.

Ray: There was nothing false about Sam He refused to be considered or to consider himself to be handicapped--and he wasn't. After spending my first day with him at the center for the partially sighted, I realized that I was the one who was handicapped. He was able to do things that the partially sighted weren't supposed to be able to do--effortlessly.


I do not know
> statistically how many people who learn and use
> braille when they lose sight later in life, but I
> think the numbers are low. To be able to pick up
> and read a physical book, to turn the pages, to be
> able to read without light, etc - well it was well
> worth every effort and persistence for years as I
> have found every day of my life since. This person
> you are talking about evidently had an element of
> focal vision, unless you can show that he was
> unable to read even large print at more than a
> single word at a time.
>

Ray: (from article)
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He preferred to use what little sight he
had, even if it meant holding a book up to his
nose.

Susan: Of course, but he could still do that.

Ray: not very well--that's why he invented his first device--a primitive version of what you use today. It opened the gates to funded projects like his device worldwide. You don't know it, but your ability to participate at GHMB today is partially due to the genius and special character of Dr. Sam Genensky.

I can't,
> but it is only rarely that, when the computer goes
> wrong, I've had to have yet another course of
> anti-biotics, when the prospect of not being able
> to continue dancing with the same amount of energy
> as before all come at once, I do give in to a
> moment or so of self pity.
>
> Stop thinking you know more about being blind than
> me!!
>
> Oh, and by the way, people talking about the
> number of well-known people they know or are
> acquainted with has never impressed me in the way
> they think it should.

Ray: Sam's life had an especially happy ending, since the ophthalmologists at the nearby Jules Stein Eye Institute found a way to surgically partially restore Sam's eyesight. He joyfully took trips all over the world to actually see all the places he had only fantasied about for over 70 years.

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Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 1462 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 19:46
Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 98 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 13:28
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 92 Poster Boy 30-Aug-19 17:07
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 106 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 17:29
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 88 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 19:12
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 108 Susan Doris 30-Aug-19 14:53
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 103 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 15:37
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 91 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 20:30
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 87 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 22:04
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 87 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 23:10
Empirical science and spiritual experiences 79 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 23:59
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 85 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 00:09
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 98 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 00:40
Spirituality is one's whole inner and outer character; there is no division.... 91 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 01:32
The Christian alternative: asceticism 84 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:49
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 96 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 01:55
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 91 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 02:14
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 108 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 20:53
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 83 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 23:08
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 77 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 18:08
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 80 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 19:03
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 73 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 20:39
This thread is about science 72 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 21:08
Re: This thread is about science 76 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 21:31
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 93 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:01
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 89 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 01:45
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 102 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 02:18
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 75 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:29
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 83 Jrevans 31-Aug-19 01:02
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 83 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:44
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 102 jazzmumbles 31-Aug-19 01:25
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 89 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:37
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 92 jazzmumbles 31-Aug-19 02:42
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 82 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:58
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 78 Itatw70s 01-Sep-19 20:31
NOPE 80 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 22:47
Re: NOPE 81 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 20:59
Science is not a threat 92 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 21:11
Re: Science is not a threat 89 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 21:37
Re: Science is not a threat 92 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 03:00
Re: Science is not a threat 72 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 06:04
Re: Science is not a threat 83 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 07:31
Re: Science is not a threat 72 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 07:47
Of course 87 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 08:05
Re: Of course 77 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 10:14
Re: Of course 83 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 11:40
Just Passing Through 103 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 12:54
"There is nowhere where there is not God".... 74 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 22:17
Agreed 86 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 23:58
philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 86 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 11:54
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 92 Susan Doris 31-Aug-19 15:09
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 82 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 15:56
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 80 Susan Doris 31-Aug-19 17:51
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 92 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 18:49
Thought experimentation is the key.... 86 Itatw70s 01-Sep-19 21:03
From Descartes to the present 91 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 18:20
Re: From Descartes to the present 92 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 05:12
You can lead a horse to water . . . 91 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 06:20
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 104 jazzmumbles 02-Sep-19 00:18
Nah 90 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 06:48
No not an extra you are the star. 110 grangram 03-Sep-19 07:39
Sorry 103 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 08:44
I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 87 grangram 04-Sep-19 08:02
Re: I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 94 drrayeye 04-Sep-19 13:15
Re: I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 86 Poster Boy 04-Sep-19 19:44
The greatest cult of all... 80 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-19 21:08
Re: The greatest cult of all... 90 Itatw70s 04-Sep-19 22:55
Re: The greatest cult of all... 77 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-19 23:01
Re: The greatest cult of all... 94 Itatw70s 04-Sep-19 23:05
Re: The greatest cult of all... 76 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-19 02:16
Human imagination 73 grangram 05-Sep-19 10:00
Re: Human imagination 76 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-19 19:34
The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 102 grangram 05-Sep-19 08:29
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 93 Itatw70s 05-Sep-19 11:41
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 91 grangram 05-Sep-19 11:57
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 80 Susan Doris 05-Sep-19 12:18
Lazy Lazy Lazy 92 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 16:12
Re: Lazy Lazy Lazy 80 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:01
The links are there 79 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 07:06
Re: The links are there 82 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 12:21
Re: The links are there 81 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 12:51
Re: The links are there 77 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 16:07
Further thoughts 66 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 17:56
Re: The links are there 72 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 12:40
Re: The links are there 72 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 16:26
Re: The links are there 71 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 18:12
One of the things I've learned 70 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 19:19
Re: One of the things I've learned 73 Poster Boy 06-Sep-19 19:47
Re: One of the things I've learned 79 Susan Doris 07-Sep-19 05:26
Dr. Sam 72 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 06:35
Re: Dr. Sam 75 Susan Doris 07-Sep-19 07:01
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 82 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 20:15
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 83 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:05
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 83 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 20:13
Strongly disagree 94 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 21:09
Re: Strongly disagree 86 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 21:28
The visual field (brain) and the visual world (mind) 101 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 20:28
Re: The visual field (brain) and the visual world (mind) 82 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:12
I did 86 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 07:20
Thanks 93 grangram 06-Sep-19 08:14
Re: No not an extra you are the star. 99 jazzmumbles 07-Sep-19 22:14
Re: No not an extra you are the star. 76 grangram 11-Sep-19 20:26
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 73 grangram 11-Sep-19 20:12
medical science is an oxymoron 84 drrayeye 11-Sep-19 21:41
Thank God for plumbers and electricians 85 grangram 13-Sep-19 07:38
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 89 Susan Doris 13-Sep-19 10:30
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 71 Poster Boy 13-Sep-19 16:09
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 69 Eddie Larry 13-Sep-19 17:48
medicine vs. science 70 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 17:52
Re: medicine vs. science 77 Poster Boy 13-Sep-19 18:19
A critical distinction 77 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 19:50
Save a prayer for the scientist 82 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 11:03
James 2:14 78 grangram 14-Sep-19 11:34
Re: James 2:14 82 drrayeye 14-Sep-19 15:24
Pence's health care 73 grangram 15-Sep-19 22:18
Second Timothy 2: 15 116 drrayeye 16-Sep-19 00:32
Re: James 2:14 72 Glass Jigsaw 15-Sep-19 20:26
It's always different 60 drrayeye 16-Sep-19 00:17


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