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Mark, you're taking the fantasies of speculating astro-physicists way too seriously and profoundly under-estimating the challenges of simulations to do more than emulate.

Wherever these entities might be measured n space/time, they could be immediately in contact with us on earth wherever they are, in terms of quantum entanglement:

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Multiverses have been proposed as astronomical speculations have failed experimental tests, bercause they are unwilling to propose non random models:

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They got forced into wilder and wilder speculations as the evidence came in--so don't get your hopes up this time.

Something sciency that I might consider is Penrose (if I understood it):

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Ray

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Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 1462 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 19:46
Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 98 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 13:28
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 92 Poster Boy 30-Aug-19 17:07
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 106 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 17:29
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 88 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 19:12
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 108 Susan Doris 30-Aug-19 14:53
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 104 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 15:37
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 91 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 20:30
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 87 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 22:04
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 87 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 23:10
Empirical science and spiritual experiences 79 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 23:59
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 85 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 00:09
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 98 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 00:40
Spirituality is one's whole inner and outer character; there is no division.... 92 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 01:32
The Christian alternative: asceticism 84 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:49
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 96 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 01:55
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 92 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 02:14
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 108 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 20:53
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 83 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 23:08
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 77 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 18:08
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 80 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 19:03
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 73 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 20:39
This thread is about science 72 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 21:08
Re: This thread is about science 76 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 21:31
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 93 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:01
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 89 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 01:45
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 102 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 02:18
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 75 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:29
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 83 Jrevans 31-Aug-19 01:02
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 83 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:44
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 102 jazzmumbles 31-Aug-19 01:25
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 89 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:37
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 93 jazzmumbles 31-Aug-19 02:42
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 82 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:58
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 78 Itatw70s 01-Sep-19 20:31
NOPE 80 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 22:47
Re: NOPE 81 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 20:59
Science is not a threat 92 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 21:11
Re: Science is not a threat 89 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 21:37
Re: Science is not a threat 92 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 03:00
Re: Science is not a threat 72 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 06:04
Re: Science is not a threat 83 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 07:31
Re: Science is not a threat 72 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 07:47
Of course 87 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 08:05
Re: Of course 77 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 10:14
Re: Of course 83 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 11:40
Just Passing Through 103 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 12:54
"There is nowhere where there is not God".... 74 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 22:17
Agreed 86 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 23:58
philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 86 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 11:54
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 92 Susan Doris 31-Aug-19 15:09
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 82 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 15:56
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 80 Susan Doris 31-Aug-19 17:51
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 92 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 18:49
Thought experimentation is the key.... 86 Itatw70s 01-Sep-19 21:03
From Descartes to the present 92 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 18:20
Re: From Descartes to the present 92 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 05:12
You can lead a horse to water . . . 91 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 06:20
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 104 jazzmumbles 02-Sep-19 00:18
Nah 90 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 06:48
No not an extra you are the star. 110 grangram 03-Sep-19 07:39
Sorry 104 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 08:44
I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 87 grangram 04-Sep-19 08:02
Re: I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 94 drrayeye 04-Sep-19 13:15
Re: I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 86 Poster Boy 04-Sep-19 19:44
The greatest cult of all... 80 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-19 21:08
Re: The greatest cult of all... 90 Itatw70s 04-Sep-19 22:55
Re: The greatest cult of all... 77 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-19 23:01
Re: The greatest cult of all... 95 Itatw70s 04-Sep-19 23:05
Re: The greatest cult of all... 76 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-19 02:16
Human imagination 73 grangram 05-Sep-19 10:00
Re: Human imagination 76 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-19 19:34
The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 103 grangram 05-Sep-19 08:29
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 93 Itatw70s 05-Sep-19 11:41
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 91 grangram 05-Sep-19 11:57
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 80 Susan Doris 05-Sep-19 12:18
Lazy Lazy Lazy 92 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 16:12
Re: Lazy Lazy Lazy 80 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:01
The links are there 79 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 07:06
Re: The links are there 82 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 12:21
Re: The links are there 81 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 12:51
Re: The links are there 77 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 16:07
Further thoughts 66 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 17:56
Re: The links are there 72 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 12:40
Re: The links are there 72 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 16:26
Re: The links are there 71 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 18:12
One of the things I've learned 71 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 19:19
Re: One of the things I've learned 73 Poster Boy 06-Sep-19 19:47
Re: One of the things I've learned 79 Susan Doris 07-Sep-19 05:26
Dr. Sam 73 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 06:35
Re: Dr. Sam 75 Susan Doris 07-Sep-19 07:01
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 82 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 20:15
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 83 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:05
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 83 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 20:13
Strongly disagree 94 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 21:09
Re: Strongly disagree 86 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 21:28
The visual field (brain) and the visual world (mind) 101 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 20:28
Re: The visual field (brain) and the visual world (mind) 82 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:12
I did 86 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 07:20
Thanks 93 grangram 06-Sep-19 08:14
Re: No not an extra you are the star. 99 jazzmumbles 07-Sep-19 22:14
Re: No not an extra you are the star. 76 grangram 11-Sep-19 20:26
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 73 grangram 11-Sep-19 20:12
medical science is an oxymoron 84 drrayeye 11-Sep-19 21:41
Thank God for plumbers and electricians 85 grangram 13-Sep-19 07:38
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 89 Susan Doris 13-Sep-19 10:30
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 71 Poster Boy 13-Sep-19 16:09
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 69 Eddie Larry 13-Sep-19 17:48
medicine vs. science 70 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 17:52
Re: medicine vs. science 77 Poster Boy 13-Sep-19 18:19
A critical distinction 77 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 19:50
Save a prayer for the scientist 82 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 11:03
James 2:14 78 grangram 14-Sep-19 11:34
Re: James 2:14 82 drrayeye 14-Sep-19 15:24
Pence's health care 74 grangram 15-Sep-19 22:18
Second Timothy 2: 15 116 drrayeye 16-Sep-19 00:32
Re: James 2:14 73 Glass Jigsaw 15-Sep-19 20:26
It's always different 60 drrayeye 16-Sep-19 00:17


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