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“The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself.”
Nice to hear from you, I couldn't have said it better myself Mark. The fact that Science has to respond to this is great but when the “Fine Tuning' problem arose Science had a rethink and then they came up with multiple universes, they just made them up really. But in the end they may have to face up to uncomfortable solutions, Dawkins couldn't refute the simulation concept, I wonder whether he has ever read Chuang Tsu' 'dream' allegories as the Chinese master was talking of the same concept, dream, illusion, simulation and of course Socrates' Cave allegory comes to mind aswell.
Dr J b Taylor said “What are we?”...... “We are the life force power of the universe” she could say this because she experienced it, she knew herself. You, Ray, myself and others have had similar experiences not because of an Brain Haemorrhage but a union brought about by our personal growth and Grace.
We follow what seem different paths but we all seek the same union, although we may use different methods and names.

I read a book by Dr Peter Fenwick some years ago, about 300 reported NDEs, he has noticed the different reports of these experiences for instance, Catholics generally saw the Virgin. I shan't say much about it, but leave a link to a interview where he covers most of his findings. See what you think.
[www.youtube.com] 'What really happens when you die'. Dr Fenwick. 59.28 mins

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Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 1638 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 19:46
Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 149 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 13:28
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 139 PB Bytes 30-Aug-19 17:07
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 156 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 17:29
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 137 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 19:12
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 159 Susan Doris 30-Aug-19 14:53
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 151 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 15:37
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 141 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 20:30
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 140 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 22:04
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 136 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 23:10
Empirical science and spiritual experiences 127 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 23:59
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 132 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 00:09
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 144 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 00:40
Spirituality is one's whole inner and outer character; there is no division.... 143 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 01:32
The Christian alternative: asceticism 130 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:49
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 151 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 01:55
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 142 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 02:14
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 158 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 20:53
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 132 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 23:08
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 125 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 18:08
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 130 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 19:03
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 126 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 20:39
This thread is about science 123 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 21:08
Re: This thread is about science 124 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 21:31
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 141 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:01
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 137 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 01:45
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 157 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 02:18
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 122 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:29
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 136 Jrevans 31-Aug-19 01:02
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 134 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:44
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 153 jazzmumbles 31-Aug-19 01:25
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 141 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:37
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 143 jazzmumbles 31-Aug-19 02:42
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 128 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:58
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 125 Itatw70s 01-Sep-19 20:31
NOPE 130 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 22:47
Re: NOPE 133 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 20:59
Science is not a threat 142 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 21:11
Re: Science is not a threat 136 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 21:37
Re: Science is not a threat 141 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 03:00
Re: Science is not a threat 122 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 06:04
Re: Science is not a threat 138 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 07:31
Re: Science is not a threat 122 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 07:47
Of course 129 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 08:05
Re: Of course 134 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 10:14
Re: Of course 129 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 11:40
Just Passing Through 155 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 12:54
"There is nowhere where there is not God".... 130 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 22:17
Agreed 136 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 23:58
philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 135 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 11:54
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 139 Susan Doris 31-Aug-19 15:09
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 135 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 15:56
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 127 Susan Doris 31-Aug-19 17:51
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 140 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 18:49
Thought experimentation is the key.... 137 Itatw70s 01-Sep-19 21:03
From Descartes to the present 140 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 18:20
Re: From Descartes to the present 140 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 05:12
You can lead a horse to water . . . 143 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 06:20
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 154 jazzmumbles 02-Sep-19 00:18
Nah 139 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 06:48
No not an extra you are the star. 166 grangram 03-Sep-19 07:39
Sorry 158 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 08:44
I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 133 grangram 04-Sep-19 08:02
Re: I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 148 drrayeye 04-Sep-19 13:15
Re: I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 136 PB Bytes 04-Sep-19 19:44
The greatest cult of all... 130 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-19 21:08
Re: The greatest cult of all... 140 Itatw70s 04-Sep-19 22:55
Re: The greatest cult of all... 124 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-19 23:01
Re: The greatest cult of all... 139 Itatw70s 04-Sep-19 23:05
Re: The greatest cult of all... 122 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-19 02:16
Human imagination 122 grangram 05-Sep-19 10:00
Re: Human imagination 123 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-19 19:34
The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 151 grangram 05-Sep-19 08:29
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 142 Itatw70s 05-Sep-19 11:41
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 139 grangram 05-Sep-19 11:57
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 128 Susan Doris 05-Sep-19 12:18
Lazy Lazy Lazy 139 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 16:12
Re: Lazy Lazy Lazy 130 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:01
The links are there 129 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 07:06
Re: The links are there 130 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 12:21
Re: The links are there 131 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 12:51
Re: The links are there 127 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 16:07
Further thoughts 112 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 17:56
Re: The links are there 121 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 12:40
Re: The links are there 117 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 16:26
Re: The links are there 121 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 18:12
One of the things I've learned 113 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 19:19
Re: One of the things I've learned 123 PB Bytes 06-Sep-19 19:47
Re: One of the things I've learned 126 Susan Doris 07-Sep-19 05:26
Dr. Sam 121 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 06:35
Re: Dr. Sam 124 Susan Doris 07-Sep-19 07:01
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 129 PB Bytes 05-Sep-19 20:15
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 134 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:05
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 133 PB Bytes 05-Sep-19 20:13
Strongly disagree 148 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 21:09
Re: Strongly disagree 133 PB Bytes 05-Sep-19 21:28
The visual field (brain) and the visual world (mind) 158 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 20:28
Re: The visual field (brain) and the visual world (mind) 130 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:12
I did 135 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 07:20
Thanks 141 grangram 06-Sep-19 08:14
Re: No not an extra you are the star. 157 jazzmumbles 07-Sep-19 22:14
Re: No not an extra you are the star. 130 grangram 11-Sep-19 20:26
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 119 grangram 11-Sep-19 20:12
medical science is an oxymoron 144 drrayeye 11-Sep-19 21:41
Thank God for plumbers and electricians 133 grangram 13-Sep-19 07:38
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 150 Susan Doris 13-Sep-19 10:30
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 121 PB Bytes 13-Sep-19 16:09
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 124 Eddie Larry 13-Sep-19 17:48
medicine vs. science 117 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 17:52
Re: medicine vs. science 127 PB Bytes 13-Sep-19 18:19
A critical distinction 122 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 19:50
Save a prayer for the scientist 131 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 11:03
James 2:14 125 grangram 14-Sep-19 11:34
Re: James 2:14 128 drrayeye 14-Sep-19 15:24
Pence's health care 120 grangram 15-Sep-19 22:18
Second Timothy 2: 15 212 drrayeye 16-Sep-19 00:32
Re: James 2:14 125 Glass Jigsaw 15-Sep-19 20:26
It's always different 104 drrayeye 16-Sep-19 00:17


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