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A clear and direct reply for a change! Thank you. At the moment, I am simply not interested in listening to you tubes etc, as the book I am reading appeals to me much more. It is in braille and I can assure you that not being able to see the words means the concentration required is greater.

Susan

drrayeye Wrote:
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> Susan Doris Wrote:
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Descarte's mind-body dualism seems alive
> > and well, despite efforts to proclaim it's
> death.
> > The mind, separate from the body, seems to fit
> in
> > well with software and hardware in computer
> > systems: Almost too well
> > Cite a modern world-renowned philosopher who
> still
> > thinks Descartes was right that mind is
> separate
> > from body. If possible, add a sentence from
> > his/her work as evidence.
>
> Susan,
>
> I may have been unclear. Descartes never said
> that mind is separate from the body. He said that
> mind and body were functioning in parallel in he
> brain. This is the concept that continues being
> explored today in the study of consciousness.
>
> The world renowned philosopher that shows the
> transitions from old mechanistic Cartesian dualism
> to modern cognitive science is Noam Chomsky. It's
> complex, but here's a nine minute dialog/talk that
> explains it:
>
> Consciousness and mind-body dualism
>
> [www.youtube.com]
>
> A good modern presentation of recent findings is
> by Anil Seth. I've already linked to him above,
> but here is the link to the Q and A responses to
> his youtube lecture (see at abut 14:30):
>
> [www.youtube.com]
>
> If you're seriously interested in a broader
> presentation of the evidence, his lecture is
> here:
>
> [www.youtube.com]
>
> Ray

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Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 1378 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 19:46
Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 78 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 13:28
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 73 Poster Boy 30-Aug-19 17:07
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 74 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 17:29
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 68 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 19:12
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 76 Susan Doris 30-Aug-19 14:53
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 78 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 15:37
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 66 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 20:30
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 67 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 22:04
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 62 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 23:10
Empirical science and spiritual experiences 61 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 23:59
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 64 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 00:09
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 65 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 00:40
Spirituality is one's whole inner and outer character; there is no division.... 67 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 01:32
The Christian alternative: asceticism 67 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:49
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 73 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 01:55
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 66 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 02:14
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 74 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 20:53
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 60 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 23:08
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 57 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 18:08
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 55 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 19:03
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 54 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 20:39
This thread is about science 54 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 21:08
Re: This thread is about science 54 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 21:31
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 60 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:01
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 65 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 01:45
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 63 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 02:18
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 55 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:29
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 65 Jrevans 31-Aug-19 01:02
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 62 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:44
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 67 jazzmumbles 31-Aug-19 01:25
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 66 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:37
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 67 jazzmumbles 31-Aug-19 02:42
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 63 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:58
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 60 Itatw70s 01-Sep-19 20:31
NOPE 58 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 22:47
Re: NOPE 59 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 20:59
Science is not a threat 61 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 21:11
Re: Science is not a threat 65 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 21:37
Re: Science is not a threat 60 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 03:00
Re: Science is not a threat 52 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 06:04
Re: Science is not a threat 49 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 07:31
Re: Science is not a threat 54 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 07:47
Of course 55 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 08:05
Re: Of course 57 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 10:14
Re: Of course 64 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 11:40
Just Passing Through 71 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 12:54
"There is nowhere where there is not God".... 57 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 22:17
Agreed 58 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 23:58
philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 68 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 11:54
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 69 Susan Doris 31-Aug-19 15:09
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 61 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 15:56
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 62 Susan Doris 31-Aug-19 17:51
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 68 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 18:49
Thought experimentation is the key.... 59 Itatw70s 01-Sep-19 21:03
From Descartes to the present 72 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 18:20
Re: From Descartes to the present 68 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 05:12
You can lead a horse to water . . . 74 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 06:20
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 77 jazzmumbles 02-Sep-19 00:18
Nah 70 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 06:48
No not an extra you are the star. 78 grangram 03-Sep-19 07:39
Sorry 71 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 08:44
I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 68 grangram 04-Sep-19 08:02
Re: I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 63 drrayeye 04-Sep-19 13:15
Re: I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 64 Poster Boy 04-Sep-19 19:44
The greatest cult of all... 61 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-19 21:08
Re: The greatest cult of all... 57 Itatw70s 04-Sep-19 22:55
Re: The greatest cult of all... 58 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-19 23:01
Re: The greatest cult of all... 62 Itatw70s 04-Sep-19 23:05
Re: The greatest cult of all... 55 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-19 02:16
Human imagination 55 grangram 05-Sep-19 10:00
Re: Human imagination 55 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-19 19:34
The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 68 grangram 05-Sep-19 08:29
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 62 Itatw70s 05-Sep-19 11:41
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 58 grangram 05-Sep-19 11:57
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 60 Susan Doris 05-Sep-19 12:18
Lazy Lazy Lazy 64 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 16:12
Re: Lazy Lazy Lazy 54 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:01
The links are there 57 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 07:06
Re: The links are there 55 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 12:21
Re: The links are there 57 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 12:51
Re: The links are there 56 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 16:07
Further thoughts 46 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 17:56
Re: The links are there 53 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 12:40
Re: The links are there 52 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 16:26
Re: The links are there 53 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 18:12
One of the things I've learned 52 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 19:19
Re: One of the things I've learned 54 Poster Boy 06-Sep-19 19:47
Re: One of the things I've learned 55 Susan Doris 07-Sep-19 05:26
Dr. Sam 52 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 06:35
Re: Dr. Sam 57 Susan Doris 07-Sep-19 07:01
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 62 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 20:15
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 54 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:05
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 63 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 20:13
Strongly disagree 63 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 21:09
Re: Strongly disagree 67 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 21:28
The visual field (brain) and the visual world (mind) 69 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 20:28
Re: The visual field (brain) and the visual world (mind) 65 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:12
I did 65 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 07:20
Thanks 63 grangram 06-Sep-19 08:14
Re: No not an extra you are the star. 68 jazzmumbles 07-Sep-19 22:14
Re: No not an extra you are the star. 54 grangram 11-Sep-19 20:26
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 55 grangram 11-Sep-19 20:12
medical science is an oxymoron 61 drrayeye 11-Sep-19 21:41
Thank God for plumbers and electricians 53 grangram 13-Sep-19 07:38
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 57 Susan Doris 13-Sep-19 10:30
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 53 Poster Boy 13-Sep-19 16:09
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 50 Eddie Larry 13-Sep-19 17:48
medicine vs. science 51 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 17:52
Re: medicine vs. science 58 Poster Boy 13-Sep-19 18:19
A critical distinction 58 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 19:50
Save a prayer for the scientist 63 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 11:03
James 2:14 61 grangram 14-Sep-19 11:34
Re: James 2:14 62 drrayeye 14-Sep-19 15:24
Pence's health care 54 grangram 15-Sep-19 22:18
Second Timothy 2: 15 79 drrayeye 16-Sep-19 00:32
Re: James 2:14 54 Glass Jigsaw 15-Sep-19 20:26
It's always different 44 drrayeye 16-Sep-19 00:17


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