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Ray, asceticism only works for ascetics, in my experience that is.

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Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 1775 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 19:46
Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 212 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 13:28
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 205 PB Bytes 30-Aug-19 17:07
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 216 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 17:29
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 198 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 19:12
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 220 Susan Doris 30-Aug-19 14:53
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 211 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 15:37
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 198 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 20:30
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 202 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 22:04
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 197 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 23:10
Empirical science and spiritual experiences 183 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 23:59
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 186 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 00:09
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 198 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 00:40
Spirituality is one's whole inner and outer character; there is no division.... 205 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 01:32
The Christian alternative: asceticism 188 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:49
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 201 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 01:55
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 205 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 02:14
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 217 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 20:53
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 185 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 23:08
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 181 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 18:08
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 185 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 19:03
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 185 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 20:39
This thread is about science 179 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 21:08
Re: This thread is about science 181 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 21:31
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 198 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:01
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 196 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 01:45
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 217 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 02:18
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 177 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:29
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 198 Jrevans 31-Aug-19 01:02
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 194 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:44
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 245 jazzmumbles 31-Aug-19 01:25
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 197 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:37
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 230 jazzmumbles 31-Aug-19 02:42
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 180 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:58
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 180 Itatw70s 01-Sep-19 20:31
NOPE 184 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 22:47
Re: NOPE 193 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 20:59
Science is not a threat 202 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 21:11
Re: Science is not a threat 197 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 21:37
Re: Science is not a threat 199 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 03:00
Re: Science is not a threat 182 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 06:04
Re: Science is not a threat 201 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 07:31
Re: Science is not a threat 182 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 07:47
Of course 186 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 08:05
Re: Of course 193 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 10:14
Re: Of course 187 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 11:40
Just Passing Through 216 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 12:54
"There is nowhere where there is not God".... 199 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 22:17
Agreed 196 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 23:58
philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 187 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 11:54
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 198 Susan Doris 31-Aug-19 15:09
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 203 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 15:56
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 188 Susan Doris 31-Aug-19 17:51
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 195 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 18:49
Thought experimentation is the key.... 193 Itatw70s 01-Sep-19 21:03
From Descartes to the present 194 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 18:20
Re: From Descartes to the present 195 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 05:12
You can lead a horse to water . . . 215 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 06:20
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 246 jazzmumbles 02-Sep-19 00:18
Nah 197 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 06:48
No not an extra you are the star. 221 grangram 03-Sep-19 07:39
Sorry 208 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 08:44
I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 204 grangram 04-Sep-19 08:02
Re: I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 207 drrayeye 04-Sep-19 13:15
Re: I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 193 PB Bytes 04-Sep-19 19:44
The greatest cult of all... 187 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-19 21:08
Re: The greatest cult of all... 197 Itatw70s 04-Sep-19 22:55
Re: The greatest cult of all... 183 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-19 23:01
Re: The greatest cult of all... 204 Itatw70s 04-Sep-19 23:05
Re: The greatest cult of all... 187 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-19 02:16
Human imagination 184 grangram 05-Sep-19 10:00
Re: Human imagination 179 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-19 19:34
The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 219 grangram 05-Sep-19 08:29
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 205 Itatw70s 05-Sep-19 11:41
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 189 grangram 05-Sep-19 11:57
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 180 Susan Doris 05-Sep-19 12:18
Lazy Lazy Lazy 193 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 16:12
Re: Lazy Lazy Lazy 192 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:01
The links are there 184 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 07:06
Re: The links are there 185 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 12:21
Re: The links are there 201 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 12:51
Re: The links are there 183 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 16:07
Further thoughts 169 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 17:56
Re: The links are there 180 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 12:40
Re: The links are there 177 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 16:26
Re: The links are there 185 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 18:12
One of the things I've learned 167 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 19:19
Re: One of the things I've learned 186 PB Bytes 06-Sep-19 19:47
Re: One of the things I've learned 184 Susan Doris 07-Sep-19 05:26
Dr. Sam 182 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 06:35
Re: Dr. Sam 186 Susan Doris 07-Sep-19 07:01
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 181 PB Bytes 05-Sep-19 20:15
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 190 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:05
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 196 PB Bytes 05-Sep-19 20:13
Strongly disagree 197 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 21:09
Re: Strongly disagree 197 PB Bytes 05-Sep-19 21:28
The visual field (brain) and the visual world (mind) 213 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 20:28
Re: The visual field (brain) and the visual world (mind) 192 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:12
I did 196 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 07:20
Thanks 200 grangram 06-Sep-19 08:14
Re: No not an extra you are the star. 351 jazzmumbles 07-Sep-19 22:14
Re: No not an extra you are the star. 185 grangram 11-Sep-19 20:26
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 190 grangram 11-Sep-19 20:12
medical science is an oxymoron 206 drrayeye 11-Sep-19 21:41
Thank God for plumbers and electricians 193 grangram 13-Sep-19 07:38
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 205 Susan Doris 13-Sep-19 10:30
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 181 PB Bytes 13-Sep-19 16:09
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 180 Eddie Larry 13-Sep-19 17:48
medicine vs. science 170 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 17:52
Re: medicine vs. science 191 PB Bytes 13-Sep-19 18:19
A critical distinction 176 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 19:50
Save a prayer for the scientist 194 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 11:03
James 2:14 187 grangram 14-Sep-19 11:34
Re: James 2:14 196 drrayeye 14-Sep-19 15:24
Pence's health care 179 grangram 15-Sep-19 22:18
Second Timothy 2: 15 301 drrayeye 16-Sep-19 00:32
Re: James 2:14 202 Glass Jigsaw 15-Sep-19 20:26
It's always different 167 drrayeye 16-Sep-19 00:17


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