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I would like to thankyou for the topic because it made me think of The Yoga Sutras by Patanjali.

I will quote the beginning and make comments about them:

1. NOW, the teachings of Yoga.
2. Yoga is to still the PATTERNING of consciousness.
3. Then PURE AWARENESS can abide in its VERY NATURE.
4. Otherwise awareness takes ITSELF to be the PATTERNS of consciousness.
5. There are five types of PATTERNS, including both hurtful and benign.
6. They are RIGHT PERCEPTION, MISPERCEPTION, CONCEPTUALIZATION, DEEP SLEEP, and REMEMBERING.
7. Right perception arises from DIRECT OBSERVATION, inference, or the words of OTHERS.
8. Misperception is false knowledge, not based on what ACTUALLY IS.
9..CONCEPTUALIZATION is based on linguistic knowledge, not CONTACT with real things.
10. Deep sleep is a pattern grounded in the perception that NOTHING EXISTS.
11. Remembering is the RETENTION of experiences.
12. Both PRACTICE and NONREACTION are required to STILL THE PATTERNING of consciousness.

Now, briefly, patterning is the very images, auditory thoughts and deep interactive feelings associated with our EXPERIENCING of the real world. They ARE subjective, with a twist, they are OUR OWN INNER ACTIVITY, just as different as our appearances to other people physically.

As we here on GHMB should know by now, pure awareness (ahh, yes, that beautiful word PURE AWARENESS) is the heart and soul of ANY SPIRITUAL practice. But the warning is that our awareness, like blood from our bleeding body, can be mistaken for the REAL AWARENESS that is within our BEINGNESS, the IS OF ALL THINGS. Awareness is another ACTIVITY of consciousness; to SEE what we PERCEIVE, and thinking that itself is awareness. Blindness to our inner activity is the cause of tormentingly slow recovery from what I call Imagism. Oh how right are those two words PATTERNING and AWARENESSES.
Here is the deepest conundrum, are we a pattern of whatever, or are we awareness?!!
13. Practice is the sustained effort to REST IN THAT STILLNESS.
14. This practice becomes firmly rooted when it is CULTIVATED skillfully and continously for a long time.

Now, please look for this spiritual "science" on book or the internet. It is reasonably inexpensive because it is ten pages. Amazon sells it for a few dollars, really!!!

Mind and matter are eternally the same

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Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 1606 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 19:46
Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 135 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 13:28
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 127 Poster Boy 30-Aug-19 17:07
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 144 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 17:29
Re: Is there such a thing as Spiritual Blindness? 125 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 19:12
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 148 Susan Doris 30-Aug-19 14:53
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 139 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 15:37
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 129 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 20:30
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 128 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 22:04
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 124 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 23:10
Empirical science and spiritual experiences 112 drrayeye 30-Aug-19 23:59
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 120 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 00:09
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 134 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 00:40
Spirituality is one's whole inner and outer character; there is no division.... 130 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 01:32
The Christian alternative: asceticism 114 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:49
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 136 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 01:55
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 131 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 02:14
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 147 Itatw70s 31-Aug-19 20:53
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 120 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 23:08
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 112 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 18:08
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 117 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 19:03
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 110 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 20:39
This thread is about science 108 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 21:08
Re: This thread is about science 110 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 21:31
Re: The Christian alternative: asceticism 128 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:01
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 124 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 01:45
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 143 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 02:18
Re: Empirical science and spiritual experiences 110 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:29
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 123 Jrevans 31-Aug-19 01:02
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 120 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:44
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 141 jazzmumbles 31-Aug-19 01:25
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 126 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 01:37
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 130 jazzmumbles 31-Aug-19 02:42
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 118 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 02:58
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 114 Itatw70s 01-Sep-19 20:31
NOPE 119 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 22:47
Re: NOPE 119 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 20:59
Science is not a threat 129 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 21:11
Re: Science is not a threat 122 Itatw70s 02-Sep-19 21:37
Re: Science is not a threat 129 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 03:00
Re: Science is not a threat 111 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 06:04
Re: Science is not a threat 127 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 07:31
Re: Science is not a threat 110 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 07:47
Of course 119 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 08:05
Re: Of course 113 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 10:14
Re: Of course 116 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 11:40
Just Passing Through 143 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 12:54
"There is nowhere where there is not God".... 117 Itatw70s 03-Sep-19 22:17
Agreed 124 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 23:58
philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 124 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 11:54
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 129 Susan Doris 31-Aug-19 15:09
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 121 Eddie Larry 31-Aug-19 15:56
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 116 Susan Doris 31-Aug-19 17:51
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 127 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 18:49
Thought experimentation is the key.... 125 Itatw70s 01-Sep-19 21:03
From Descartes to the present 128 drrayeye 31-Aug-19 18:20
Re: From Descartes to the present 128 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 05:12
You can lead a horse to water . . . 127 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 06:20
Re: philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 142 jazzmumbles 02-Sep-19 00:18
Nah 128 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 06:48
No not an extra you are the star. 156 grangram 03-Sep-19 07:39
Sorry 145 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 08:44
I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 121 grangram 04-Sep-19 08:02
Re: I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 134 drrayeye 04-Sep-19 13:15
Re: I don't think Dawkins likes the theory? 123 Poster Boy 04-Sep-19 19:44
The greatest cult of all... 118 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-19 21:08
Re: The greatest cult of all... 127 Itatw70s 04-Sep-19 22:55
Re: The greatest cult of all... 110 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-19 23:01
Re: The greatest cult of all... 128 Itatw70s 04-Sep-19 23:05
Re: The greatest cult of all... 111 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-19 02:16
Human imagination 108 grangram 05-Sep-19 10:00
Re: Human imagination 112 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-19 19:34
The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 139 grangram 05-Sep-19 08:29
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 129 Itatw70s 05-Sep-19 11:41
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 128 grangram 05-Sep-19 11:57
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 116 Susan Doris 05-Sep-19 12:18
Lazy Lazy Lazy 127 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 16:12
Re: Lazy Lazy Lazy 117 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:01
The links are there 116 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 07:06
Re: The links are there 119 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 12:21
Re: The links are there 118 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 12:51
Re: The links are there 115 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 16:07
Further thoughts 100 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 17:56
Re: The links are there 108 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 12:40
Re: The links are there 106 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 16:26
Re: The links are there 107 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 18:12
One of the things I've learned 101 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 19:19
Re: One of the things I've learned 111 Poster Boy 06-Sep-19 19:47
Re: One of the things I've learned 115 Susan Doris 07-Sep-19 05:26
Dr. Sam 109 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 06:35
Re: Dr. Sam 109 Susan Doris 07-Sep-19 07:01
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 116 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 20:15
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 122 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:05
Re: The better question may be to question the nature of reality itself. 122 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 20:13
Strongly disagree 135 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 21:09
Re: Strongly disagree 119 Poster Boy 05-Sep-19 21:28
The visual field (brain) and the visual world (mind) 145 drrayeye 05-Sep-19 20:28
Re: The visual field (brain) and the visual world (mind) 117 Susan Doris 06-Sep-19 05:12
I did 121 drrayeye 06-Sep-19 07:20
Thanks 129 grangram 06-Sep-19 08:14
Re: No not an extra you are the star. 143 jazzmumbles 07-Sep-19 22:14
Re: No not an extra you are the star. 118 grangram 11-Sep-19 20:26
Re: Empirical science, philosophy of science--and spiritual experiences 108 grangram 11-Sep-19 20:12
medical science is an oxymoron 126 drrayeye 11-Sep-19 21:41
Thank God for plumbers and electricians 120 grangram 13-Sep-19 07:38
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 139 Susan Doris 13-Sep-19 10:30
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 107 Poster Boy 13-Sep-19 16:09
Re: Thank God for plumbers and electricians 108 Eddie Larry 13-Sep-19 17:48
medicine vs. science 106 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 17:52
Re: medicine vs. science 115 Poster Boy 13-Sep-19 18:19
A critical distinction 111 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 19:50
Save a prayer for the scientist 119 drrayeye 13-Sep-19 11:03
James 2:14 112 grangram 14-Sep-19 11:34
Re: James 2:14 118 drrayeye 14-Sep-19 15:24
Pence's health care 108 grangram 15-Sep-19 22:18
Second Timothy 2: 15 195 drrayeye 16-Sep-19 00:32
Re: James 2:14 108 Glass Jigsaw 15-Sep-19 20:26
It's always different 91 drrayeye 16-Sep-19 00:17


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