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Hi Susan

I know you enjoy the forum banter and I have a few minutes now so I will attempt to oblige.

Susan Doris Wrote:
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I gave up arguing with you years ago.
>
> Well, if you have a spare half-hour or something,
> why not have a go at saying why!! Actually, I've
> never thought of discussion here as argument, but
> always as discussion. Views firmly expressed, but
> that's what makes a discussion interesting.
> Arguing is trying to win. I've never been
> interested in winning or losing, it's the
> discussion that counts every time.

Corp: The comment was not made to put you down or diminish your input in any way.

The reason is simply obvious in that you hold a very fixed view of things on this subject. That is your right and I do not expect it to change. However, you had (via the video), a very good chance to challenge your own position by considering carefully and thoroughly what the scientist (James Tour) had to say on his specialist, science only, matter.

As for losing and winning. I think your comment to be a little disingenuous . I will believe you because I like you. ;-)

So , in this case YOU LOSE! ( I will try to explain why in brief later at bottom)


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I watched the video and the scientist is
> James M Tour, Rice University USA
> thank you. I have googled him and wikipedia,
> amongst the list of headings, has 'dissent from
> darwin' which I linked on. A paragraph or two is
> enough to show that he has been linked with
> attempts to discredit the TofE in favour of
> Intelligent Design. Need I say more? I will,
> however read more about him later. But his
> aggressive rant on that video places him outside
> the solid foundation and support for the tofE.

Corp: The video of James Tour which Cloister posted ( there is actually a longer better or clearer one available) is about abiogenesis, not TofE . It is what had to, required to, have happened first, before Evolution.

He obviously has issues with Evolution I wont bother listening to his further rants.

Regardless of his religious crap, he is super qualified to discuss abiogenesis and presents a solid, indisputable case.


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His website introduces his massive long
> list of achievements etc apparently voted in the
> top 50 most influential scientists in the world.
>
> As is always the case, it does not matter how many
> achievements one has had, that does not make a woo
> digression, speech or fringe book right or valid.

Corp: As above he was talking strictly science, in his field as a world leading expert in that field.

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His is pretty clear that random chance is
> not enough. It needs mindboggling compounding
> hugely improbable coincidences and a plan.
>
> He can be as clear as he wants to be, but it won't
> stand up to the scrutiny required.Unless
> hisopinion is backed up by experimentation etc it
> remains an opinion only with 'unknown' as the
> inevitable label given to the speculations
> involved.

Corp: His actual experimentation in synthetic chemistry and nanotechnology is way beyond astounding!

He was not talking opinion. He was stating fact as far as humans are currently able to understand it and emphasising (without actually stating it this way) that discovery of the basis for abiogenesis, is absolutely unlikely to be discovered in the foreseeable future existence of human kind. It is much too big of a problem.


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What you have called "unknown" is what a
> lot of others call "God".
> well, I do actually know that!!

Corp: Then every time someone on this forum says "God" you replace it with "unknown" and you will both be in absolute agreement! Until they start preaching about their "personal epistemology" and what they think, or have been told , that "unknown" says, or does, or dictates.

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What you reject, is the human mythology and
> pretence about knowing the "unknown", which is
> called "religion".
> That sentence doesn't make enough clear sense for
> me to respond to.


Corp: I was meaning you reject, and are entitled to reject, religion! It is a human invention to fill the unknown gap and control people.

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PS Gee he (scientist) is a raving ranter
> who is difficult to listen too though!
> Why did you inflict that on me then?!
> :D
> We end this exchange here then on a point of
> agreement.
>
> Susan

Corp: I mean just because he is a religious nutter (almost a requirement for funding and political correctness in USA) does not mean we ought not listen to something scientific, which he knows lots about, is a world leader in, and that makes absolute indisputable sense.

What is the cross over point between "chemicals" and "life" ? No one knows and it cannot happen by random chance and lots of billions of years of time. It requires sophisticated planning and management of so many variables scientists can't even begin to think of how! Edit to add: His emphasis was that simple scientific attempts at experimentation, have not even come remotely close to even building the most basic requirements for "life" with compound improbability MUCH MUCH greater than the number of estimated atoms in the universe !
Something was in charge of organising the beginning of it.

Kindest regards
Steve



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 28-Aug-19 04:20 by Corpuscles.

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Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 139 Eddie Larry 22-Aug-19 22:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 134 Jrevans 22-Aug-19 23:25
Propaganda or Egotism..... 142 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 23:14
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 139 Jrevans 22-Aug-19 23:19
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 137 Eddie Larry 22-Aug-19 23:27
Mod Note > Threaded vs. Flat View 138 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Aug-19 23:55
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 139 rkmcquillen 23-Aug-19 03:53
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 123 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 12:48
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 123 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 13:53
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 117 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 14:14
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 119 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 15:05
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 120 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 15:20
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 117 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 15:26
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 122 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 15:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 121 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 16:33
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 117 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 16:43
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 113 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 16:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 130 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:36
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 128 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 18:05
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 119 Eddie Larry 23-Aug-19 18:07
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 117 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:15
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 115 Eddie Larry 24-Aug-19 13:57
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 103 Itatw70s 27-Aug-19 11:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 124 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:30
Share your knowhow!!! 117 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:44
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 121 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:07
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 113 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 17:37
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 115 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:59
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 116 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 18:23
The universe is not mysterious 118 greengirl5 23-Aug-19 23:27
Science vs.God? 129 drrayeye 23-Aug-19 23:53
Here we go again 125 drrayeye 23-Aug-19 23:48
Re: Here we go again 123 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:28
Why pretend? 124 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 03:28
Re: Why pretend? 115 Itatw70s 25-Aug-19 21:04
Re: Why pretend? 115 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 21:39
Re: Why pretend? 108 Eddie Larry 25-Aug-19 22:09
Re: Why pretend? 123 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 22:59
Re: Why pretend? 112 Eddie Larry 26-Aug-19 00:48
Re: Why pretend? 122 Itatw70s 27-Aug-19 00:42
Re: Why pretend? 112 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 02:17
Re: Why pretend? 110 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 07:40
Re: Why pretend? 103 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 08:16
Re: Why pretend? 105 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 09:47
Re: Why pretend? 115 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 09:59
Re: Why pretend? 104 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:04
Re: Why pretend? 107 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 10:16
Re: Why pretend? 121 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:43
How many NASA engineers 126 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 11:28
Lots of scientists and engineers at JPL and CalTech 115 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 11:36
Re: Lots of scientists and engineers at JPL and CalTech 118 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 11:50
Show respect 121 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 12:22
a Re: Show respect 115 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 12:54
Seeing faults in one self 107 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 14:02
Christianity 119 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 12:10
Re: Christianity 112 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 13:00
Re: Christianity 125 Richard Fusniak 26-Aug-19 22:32
Re: Christianity 112 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:02
Re: Christianity 111 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:05
Re: Christianity 119 Eddie Larry 26-Aug-19 23:16
Re: Christianity 115 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:48
Re: Christianity 109 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 02:13
Re: Christianity 114 Richard Fusniak 28-Aug-19 21:54
Re: Christianity 111 Jrevans 28-Aug-19 22:40
Re: Christianity 120 Richard Fusniak 30-Aug-19 20:05
Re: Christianity 118 Jrevans 01-Sep-19 12:13
Re: Christianity 105 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 13:16
Re: Christianity 112 greengirl5 01-Sep-19 14:23
Re: Christianity 114 Jrevans 01-Sep-19 14:37
Re: Christianity 111 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 15:21
Re: Christianity 116 Eddie Larry 01-Sep-19 15:37
Re: Christianity 121 Jrevans 01-Sep-19 15:43
Re: Christianity 107 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 15:50
NONSENSE 104 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 23:04
Re: NONSENSE 99 Susan Doris 02-Sep-19 05:32
Normal (in science/math) 115 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 06:25
Re: Normal (in science/math) 107 shando 02-Sep-19 11:36
Re: Normal (in science/math) 113 Susan Doris 02-Sep-19 12:37
Re: Christianity 104 Eddie Larry 01-Sep-19 23:51
Re: Christianity and the supernormal 105 greengirl5 02-Sep-19 00:51
Re: Christianity 109 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 15:45
Re: Christianity 104 Eddie Larry 02-Sep-19 04:44
Science, spiritualism, and evangelical atheism 114 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 15:52
Paranormal boards and debunking 97 greengirl5 02-Sep-19 00:44
Re: Christianity 120 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:58
Re: Christianity 114 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 02:16
A basic human right.... 57 Itatw70s 02-Nov-19 23:59
Re: Christianity 112 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 05:02
Re: Christianity 113 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 13:34
Re: Christianity 111 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 14:44
Re: Christianity 110 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 04:58
Very dangerous 112 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 06:57
Re: Christianity 103 Nolondil 27-Aug-19 16:57
Re: Why pretend? 98 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 16:39
Pangenesis 108 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 17:48
Re: Pangenesis 107 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 18:22
Re: Pangenesis 110 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 18:26
Re: Pangenesis 104 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:05
Re: Pangenesis 110 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:13
Re: Pangenesis 63 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 00:21
Re: Pangenesis 114 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 05:11
I already explained it, 118 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 06:31
Re: I already explained it, 104 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 07:13
If 102 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 09:42
Re: If 110 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 10:01
Re: If 101 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 11:34
Re: If 99 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 05:23
Descartes and Elizabeth 111 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 07:08
Re: I already explained it, 114 Richard Fusniak 30-Aug-19 20:10
Re: I already explained it, 114 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 23:21
Re: I already explained it, 64 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 00:30
No straddling 64 drrayeye 03-Nov-19 06:04
Re: No straddling 54 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 19:10
Re: Pangenesis 115 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 20:50
Re: Pangenesis 117 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:08
Re: Pangenesis 106 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:37
Reason for posting 105 greengirl5 27-Aug-19 15:06
Re: Reason for posting 104 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 15:44
Where did all the stuff come from? 100 greengirl5 27-Aug-19 21:53
Re: Where did all the stuff come from? 123 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 04:50
Are you sure 110 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 11:47
Re: Are you sure 116 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 11:52
Re: Why pretend? 56 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 19:44
Re: Why pretend? 105 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 06:06
Re: Why pretend? 123 cloister 26-Aug-19 06:42
Re: Why pretend? 115 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 07:56
Re: Why pretend? 115 cloister 26-Aug-19 08:18
Re: Why pretend? 106 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:00
Re: Why pretend? 120 cloister 26-Aug-19 15:06
Re: Why pretend? 109 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 15:19
Re: Why pretend? 131 cloister 26-Aug-19 18:47
Re: Why pretend? 112 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 21:27
Re: Why pretend? 103 cloister 27-Aug-19 05:29
Re: Why pretend? 94 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 06:24
Re: Why pretend? 108 cloister 27-Aug-19 07:17
Re: Why pretend? 104 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 07:31
Re: Why pretend? 113 cloister 27-Aug-19 10:04
Re: Why pretend? 109 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 10:45
Re: Why pretend? 109 cloister 27-Aug-19 11:30
Re: Why pretend? 102 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 13:53
Re: Why pretend? 105 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 15:00
Re: Why pretend? 115 Corpuscles 27-Aug-19 15:45
Re: Why pretend? 103 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 17:55
Re: Why pretend? 109 Corpuscles 27-Aug-19 18:26
Re: Why pretend? 118 cloister 27-Aug-19 19:33
Re: Why pretend? 102 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 05:12
Re: Why pretend? 117 cloister 28-Aug-19 07:11
Re: Why pretend? 106 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 08:35
Re: Why pretend? 113 cloister 28-Aug-19 11:00
Re: Why pretend? 104 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 12:56
Re: Why pretend? 101 cloister 28-Aug-19 13:38
Re: Why pretend? 110 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:04
Re: Why pretend? 104 cloister 28-Aug-19 16:11
Re: Why pretend? 102 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 16:15
saying "don't know." 97 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 16:27
Re: saying "don't know." 103 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 16:47
Trapped 108 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 14:00
Re: Trapped 110 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:07
Congratulations 113 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 16:31
Re: Congratulations 96 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 18:07
Every once in awhile 108 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 19:52
Re: Every once in awhile 105 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 20:39
When you comment about science 106 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 01:30
Re: When you comment about science 100 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 05:06
Almost everyone who posts at GHMB 98 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 06:17
Re: Almost everyone who posts at GHMB 102 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 07:00
No room for arrogance in science or spirit 108 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 07:38
Re: No room for arrogance in science or spirit 95 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 10:15
Unlucky number 13 122 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 13:11
Re: Unlucky number 13 106 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 13:45
Unknown possibilities 105 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 14:19
Re: Unknown possibilities 110 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:11
Re: Unknown possibilities 104 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 17:00
Re: Why pretend? 105 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 13:17
Natural law 107 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 14:28
Re: Natural law 104 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 14:37
Pantheisim or Pan- en -theism? 109 Corpuscles 28-Aug-19 23:48
Re: Pantheisim or Pan- en -theism? 108 Jrevans 29-Aug-19 01:52
No chance! 110 greengirl5 29-Aug-19 03:50
Re: No chance! 110 Corpuscles 29-Aug-19 08:03
Re: No chance! 100 greengirl5 29-Aug-19 13:30
Re: No chance! 113 Jrevans 29-Aug-19 21:29
Dreams----crucial or not? 52 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 20:12
Re: No chance! 110 Corpuscles 29-Aug-19 22:29
Re: No chance! 53 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 20:03
Well done 112 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 13:54
Re: Well done 103 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:44
Not so easy to dismiss 95 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 16:20
Re: Not so easy to dismiss 101 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 18:10
What you call "patronizing' 103 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 18:58
differences of perspective, but . . . 101 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 20:04
Re: Why pretend? 102 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 21:50
Re: Why pretend? 104 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 00:05
Re: Why pretend? 97 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 03:56
Re: Why pretend? 101 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 04:30
Re: Why pretend? 93 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 05:01
Re: Why pretend? 103 Corpuscles 28-Aug-19 03:36
Re: Why pretend? 106 Corpuscles 28-Aug-19 04:58
Re: Why pretend? 109 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 06:34
Re: Why pretend? 109 Jrevans 27-Aug-19 15:54
There are other possibilities 107 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 17:19
Re: There are other possibilities 106 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 18:10
Big difference 104 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 19:26
Re: Big difference 109 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 06:45
Who made nothing? 106 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 02:05
Re: Why pretend? 103 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 06:21
Blew by you 109 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 20:16
Nope 105 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 02:04
Re: Why pretend? 105 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 05:31
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 117 GramPong 23-Aug-19 20:23
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 117 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 00:58
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 107 GramPong 24-Aug-19 17:02
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 112 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:45
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 117 GramPong 24-Aug-19 21:35
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 115 jazzmumbles 25-Aug-19 01:36
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 108 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 05:59
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 108 jazzmumbles 28-Aug-19 01:13
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 97 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 06:53
Music is for survival and love is a chemical! 100 greengirl5 26-Aug-19 08:13
Re: Music is for survival and love is a chemical! 112 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:07
Re: Music is for survival and love is a chemical! 102 greengirl5 26-Aug-19 22:45
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 111 rkmcquillen 26-Aug-19 20:20
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 105 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 20:41
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 104 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 21:31
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 99 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 21:55
Don't forget the oral traditions of indigenous tribes.... 117 Itatw70s 25-Aug-19 19:32
Mod Note > Topic Moved 132 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Aug-19 15:54
Great start 128 drrayeye 23-Aug-19 17:11
Re: Great start 117 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 18:01
Re: Great start 115 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:37
Re: Great start 120 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 01:25
Patterns of Evidence 117 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 03:37
Re: Great start 109 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 06:26
Re: Great start 114 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 13:11
Re: Great start 106 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:34
Re: Great start 109 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 17:43
Re: Great start 110 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:51
Let's help James explore 110 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 13:15
Re: Let's help James explore 120 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 13:24
Re: Let's help James explore 106 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 15:32
Re: Let's help James explore 106 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 16:19
Re: Let's help James explore 115 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 17:03
Re: Let's help James explore 114 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 17:23
More detail 111 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 18:31
interesting history 133 grangram 26-Aug-19 19:33
Re: interesting history 99 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:17
Re: interesting history 113 grangram 26-Aug-19 23:38
How about Noah's Ark 111 grangram 26-Aug-19 20:40
Re: How about Noah's Ark 104 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 21:38
Thanks 111 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:20
Rohl and the tower of babel? 105 grangram 28-Aug-19 09:51
Gabrieli oldstyle 96 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 14:18
Sometimes words get in the way 119 grangram 03-Sep-19 06:02
Finally watched both of them 86 drrayeye 12-Sep-19 07:44
Noah's Ark 120 grangram 12-Sep-19 09:19
Re: Let's help James explore 111 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 16:39
Re: Let's help James explore 116 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 17:22
Re: Let's help James explore 110 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 17:36
Re: Let's help James explore 102 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:58
Re: Let's help James explore 113 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 19:22
Re: Let's help James explore 106 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 06:06
Re: Let's help James explore 107 drrayeye 25-Aug-19 11:32
Re: Let's help James explore 107 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 13:01
Quality and Sensitivity 115 drrayeye 25-Aug-19 15:04
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 117 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 15:51
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 120 Eddie Larry 25-Aug-19 16:07
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 106 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 16:40
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 110 Poster Boy 25-Aug-19 16:59
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 109 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 17:14
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 118 Poster Boy 25-Aug-19 17:27
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 113 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 17:51
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 114 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 16:43
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 115 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 17:45
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 116 Poster Boy 25-Aug-19 17:53
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 110 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 18:02
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 129 Poster Boy 25-Aug-19 18:16
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 135 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 17:57
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 130 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 18:06
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 92 shando 02-Sep-19 12:16
I'm not a teacher 136 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 06:58
Re: I'm not a teacher 138 Eddie Larry 26-Aug-19 14:28
Re: I'm not a teacher 99 shando 02-Sep-19 12:21
Re: Great start 51 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 20:40
Re: Great start 160 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 15:28
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 113 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 12:42
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 127 Jrevans 29-Aug-19 21:43
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 131 Susan Doris 30-Aug-19 07:14
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 129 Jrevans 30-Aug-19 12:15
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 95 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 21:00
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 106 shando 02-Sep-19 18:04
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 110 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 05:17
Salvation - another myth 90 Richard Fusniak 23-Oct-19 13:24
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 80 SandyJesse 01-Nov-19 22:27
Susan's thread--"from jrevans" 115 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 20:57
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 106 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Sep-19 21:25
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