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Hi Susan

I know you enjoy the forum banter and I have a few minutes now so I will attempt to oblige.

Susan Doris Wrote:
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I gave up arguing with you years ago.
>
> Well, if you have a spare half-hour or something,
> why not have a go at saying why!! Actually, I've
> never thought of discussion here as argument, but
> always as discussion. Views firmly expressed, but
> that's what makes a discussion interesting.
> Arguing is trying to win. I've never been
> interested in winning or losing, it's the
> discussion that counts every time.

Corp: The comment was not made to put you down or diminish your input in any way.

The reason is simply obvious in that you hold a very fixed view of things on this subject. That is your right and I do not expect it to change. However, you had (via the video), a very good chance to challenge your own position by considering carefully and thoroughly what the scientist (James Tour) had to say on his specialist, science only, matter.

As for losing and winning. I think your comment to be a little disingenuous . I will believe you because I like you. ;-)

So , in this case YOU LOSE! ( I will try to explain why in brief later at bottom)


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I watched the video and the scientist is
> James M Tour, Rice University USA
> thank you. I have googled him and wikipedia,
> amongst the list of headings, has 'dissent from
> darwin' which I linked on. A paragraph or two is
> enough to show that he has been linked with
> attempts to discredit the TofE in favour of
> Intelligent Design. Need I say more? I will,
> however read more about him later. But his
> aggressive rant on that video places him outside
> the solid foundation and support for the tofE.

Corp: The video of James Tour which Cloister posted ( there is actually a longer better or clearer one available) is about abiogenesis, not TofE . It is what had to, required to, have happened first, before Evolution.

He obviously has issues with Evolution I wont bother listening to his further rants.

Regardless of his religious crap, he is super qualified to discuss abiogenesis and presents a solid, indisputable case.


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His website introduces his massive long
> list of achievements etc apparently voted in the
> top 50 most influential scientists in the world.
>
> As is always the case, it does not matter how many
> achievements one has had, that does not make a woo
> digression, speech or fringe book right or valid.

Corp: As above he was talking strictly science, in his field as a world leading expert in that field.

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His is pretty clear that random chance is
> not enough. It needs mindboggling compounding
> hugely improbable coincidences and a plan.
>
> He can be as clear as he wants to be, but it won't
> stand up to the scrutiny required.Unless
> hisopinion is backed up by experimentation etc it
> remains an opinion only with 'unknown' as the
> inevitable label given to the speculations
> involved.

Corp: His actual experimentation in synthetic chemistry and nanotechnology is way beyond astounding!

He was not talking opinion. He was stating fact as far as humans are currently able to understand it and emphasising (without actually stating it this way) that discovery of the basis for abiogenesis, is absolutely unlikely to be discovered in the foreseeable future existence of human kind. It is much too big of a problem.


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What you have called "unknown" is what a
> lot of others call "God".
> well, I do actually know that!!

Corp: Then every time someone on this forum says "God" you replace it with "unknown" and you will both be in absolute agreement! Until they start preaching about their "personal epistemology" and what they think, or have been told , that "unknown" says, or does, or dictates.

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What you reject, is the human mythology and
> pretence about knowing the "unknown", which is
> called "religion".
> That sentence doesn't make enough clear sense for
> me to respond to.


Corp: I was meaning you reject, and are entitled to reject, religion! It is a human invention to fill the unknown gap and control people.

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PS Gee he (scientist) is a raving ranter
> who is difficult to listen too though!
> Why did you inflict that on me then?!
> :D
> We end this exchange here then on a point of
> agreement.
>
> Susan

Corp: I mean just because he is a religious nutter (almost a requirement for funding and political correctness in USA) does not mean we ought not listen to something scientific, which he knows lots about, is a world leader in, and that makes absolute indisputable sense.

What is the cross over point between "chemicals" and "life" ? No one knows and it cannot happen by random chance and lots of billions of years of time. It requires sophisticated planning and management of so many variables scientists can't even begin to think of how! Edit to add: His emphasis was that simple scientific attempts at experimentation, have not even come remotely close to even building the most basic requirements for "life" with compound improbability MUCH MUCH greater than the number of estimated atoms in the universe !
Something was in charge of organising the beginning of it.

Kindest regards
Steve



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 28-Aug-19 04:20 by Corpuscles.

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Why can't religion and science both be right? 2220 Jrevans 22-Aug-19 20:15
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Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 189 Eddie Larry 22-Aug-19 22:52
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Propaganda or Egotism..... 196 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 23:14
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Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 189 Eddie Larry 22-Aug-19 23:27
Mod Note > Threaded vs. Flat View 190 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Aug-19 23:55
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 186 rkmcquillen 23-Aug-19 03:53
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 176 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 12:48
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 175 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 13:53
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 171 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 14:14
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 177 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 15:05
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 172 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 15:20
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 170 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 15:26
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 173 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 15:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 169 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 16:33
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 169 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 16:43
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 164 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 16:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 180 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:36
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 181 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 18:05
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 178 Eddie Larry 23-Aug-19 18:07
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 169 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:15
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 162 Eddie Larry 24-Aug-19 13:57
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 153 Itatw70s 27-Aug-19 11:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 177 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:30
Share your knowhow!!! 170 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:44
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 176 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:07
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 161 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 17:37
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 165 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:59
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 171 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 18:23
The universe is not mysterious 168 greengirl5 23-Aug-19 23:27
Science vs.God? 181 drrayeye 23-Aug-19 23:53
Here we go again 178 drrayeye 23-Aug-19 23:48
Re: Here we go again 174 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:28
Why pretend? 179 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 03:28
Re: Why pretend? 170 Itatw70s 25-Aug-19 21:04
Re: Why pretend? 166 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 21:39
Re: Why pretend? 170 Eddie Larry 25-Aug-19 22:09
Re: Why pretend? 179 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 22:59
Re: Why pretend? 166 Eddie Larry 26-Aug-19 00:48
Re: Why pretend? 177 Itatw70s 27-Aug-19 00:42
Re: Why pretend? 162 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 02:17
Re: Why pretend? 164 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 07:40
Re: Why pretend? 150 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 08:16
Re: Why pretend? 157 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 09:47
Re: Why pretend? 170 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 09:59
Re: Why pretend? 156 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:04
Re: Why pretend? 155 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 10:16
Re: Why pretend? 174 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:43
How many NASA engineers 179 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 11:28
Lots of scientists and engineers at JPL and CalTech 170 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 11:36
Re: Lots of scientists and engineers at JPL and CalTech 171 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 11:50
Show respect 176 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 12:22
a Re: Show respect 166 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 12:54
Seeing faults in one self 163 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 14:02
Christianity 172 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 12:10
Re: Christianity 168 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 13:00
Re: Christianity 182 Richard Fusniak 26-Aug-19 22:32
Re: Christianity 171 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:02
Re: Christianity 164 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:05
Re: Christianity 172 Eddie Larry 26-Aug-19 23:16
Re: Christianity 168 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:48
Re: Christianity 165 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 02:13
Re: Christianity 172 Richard Fusniak 28-Aug-19 21:54
Re: Christianity 165 Jrevans 28-Aug-19 22:40
Re: Christianity 177 Richard Fusniak 30-Aug-19 20:05
Re: Christianity 171 Jrevans 01-Sep-19 12:13
Re: Christianity 159 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 13:16
Re: Christianity 165 greengirl5 01-Sep-19 14:23
Re: Christianity 165 Jrevans 01-Sep-19 14:37
Re: Christianity 167 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 15:21
Re: Christianity 173 Eddie Larry 01-Sep-19 15:37
Re: Christianity 174 Jrevans 01-Sep-19 15:43
Re: Christianity 162 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 15:50
NONSENSE 176 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 23:04
Re: NONSENSE 156 Susan Doris 02-Sep-19 05:32
Normal (in science/math) 171 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 06:25
Re: Normal (in science/math) 155 shando 02-Sep-19 11:36
Re: Normal (in science/math) 163 Susan Doris 02-Sep-19 12:37
Re: Christianity 159 Eddie Larry 01-Sep-19 23:51
Re: Christianity and the supernormal 162 greengirl5 02-Sep-19 00:51
Re: Christianity 165 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 15:45
Re: Christianity 157 Eddie Larry 02-Sep-19 04:44
Science, spiritualism, and evangelical atheism 167 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 15:52
Paranormal boards and debunking 144 greengirl5 02-Sep-19 00:44
Re: Christianity 178 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:58
Re: Christianity 169 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 02:16
A basic human right.... 108 Itatw70s 02-Nov-19 23:59
Re: Christianity 166 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 05:02
Re: Christianity 166 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 13:34
Re: Christianity 164 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 14:44
Re: Christianity 163 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 04:58
Very dangerous 165 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 06:57
Re: Christianity 154 Nolondil 27-Aug-19 16:57
Re: Why pretend? 149 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 16:39
Pangenesis 160 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 17:48
Re: Pangenesis 159 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 18:22
Re: Pangenesis 165 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 18:26
Re: Pangenesis 159 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:05
Re: Pangenesis 167 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:13
Re: Pangenesis 112 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 00:21
Re: Pangenesis 169 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 05:11
I already explained it, 173 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 06:31
Re: I already explained it, 157 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 07:13
If 158 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 09:42
Re: If 161 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 10:01
Re: If 149 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 11:34
Re: If 152 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 05:23
Descartes and Elizabeth 164 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 07:08
Re: I already explained it, 168 Richard Fusniak 30-Aug-19 20:10
Re: I already explained it, 170 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 23:21
Re: I already explained it, 116 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 00:30
No straddling 115 drrayeye 03-Nov-19 06:04
Re: No straddling 105 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 19:10
Re: Pangenesis 166 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 20:50
Re: Pangenesis 170 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:08
Re: Pangenesis 160 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:37
Reason for posting 158 greengirl5 27-Aug-19 15:06
Re: Reason for posting 156 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 15:44
Where did all the stuff come from? 152 greengirl5 27-Aug-19 21:53
Re: Where did all the stuff come from? 177 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 04:50
Are you sure 163 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 11:47
Re: Are you sure 167 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 11:52
Re: Why pretend? 106 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 19:44
Re: Why pretend? 156 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 06:06
Re: Why pretend? 177 cloister 26-Aug-19 06:42
Re: Why pretend? 165 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 07:56
Re: Why pretend? 173 cloister 26-Aug-19 08:18
Re: Why pretend? 157 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:00
Re: Why pretend? 177 cloister 26-Aug-19 15:06
Re: Why pretend? 163 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 15:19
Re: Why pretend? 191 cloister 26-Aug-19 18:47
Re: Why pretend? 166 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 21:27
Re: Why pretend? 155 cloister 27-Aug-19 05:29
Re: Why pretend? 143 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 06:24
Re: Why pretend? 164 cloister 27-Aug-19 07:17
Re: Why pretend? 157 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 07:31
Re: Why pretend? 171 cloister 27-Aug-19 10:04
Re: Why pretend? 158 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 10:45
Re: Why pretend? 166 cloister 27-Aug-19 11:30
Re: Why pretend? 158 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 13:53
Re: Why pretend? 157 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 15:00
Re: Why pretend? 174 Corpuscles 27-Aug-19 15:45
Re: Why pretend? 154 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 17:55
Re: Why pretend? 159 Corpuscles 27-Aug-19 18:26
Re: Why pretend? 173 cloister 27-Aug-19 19:33
Re: Why pretend? 156 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 05:12
Re: Why pretend? 176 cloister 28-Aug-19 07:11
Re: Why pretend? 159 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 08:35
Re: Why pretend? 170 cloister 28-Aug-19 11:00
Re: Why pretend? 156 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 12:56
Re: Why pretend? 158 cloister 28-Aug-19 13:38
Re: Why pretend? 162 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:04
Re: Why pretend? 161 cloister 28-Aug-19 16:11
Re: Why pretend? 149 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 16:15
saying "don't know." 149 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 16:27
Re: saying "don't know." 157 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 16:47
Trapped 161 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 14:00
Re: Trapped 164 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:07
Congratulations 166 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 16:31
Re: Congratulations 148 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 18:07
Every once in awhile 161 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 19:52
Re: Every once in awhile 155 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 20:39
When you comment about science 156 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 01:30
Re: When you comment about science 153 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 05:06
Almost everyone who posts at GHMB 152 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 06:17
Re: Almost everyone who posts at GHMB 151 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 07:00
No room for arrogance in science or spirit 160 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 07:38
Re: No room for arrogance in science or spirit 144 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 10:15
Unlucky number 13 179 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 13:11
Re: Unlucky number 13 156 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 13:45
Unknown possibilities 160 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 14:19
Re: Unknown possibilities 167 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:11
Re: Unknown possibilities 156 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 17:00
Re: Why pretend? 157 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 13:17
Natural law 157 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 14:28
Re: Natural law 154 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 14:37
Pantheisim or Pan- en -theism? 167 Corpuscles 28-Aug-19 23:48
Re: Pantheisim or Pan- en -theism? 161 Jrevans 29-Aug-19 01:52
No chance! 161 greengirl5 29-Aug-19 03:50
Re: No chance! 166 Corpuscles 29-Aug-19 08:03
Re: No chance! 152 greengirl5 29-Aug-19 13:30
Re: No chance! 160 Jrevans 29-Aug-19 21:29
Dreams----crucial or not? 103 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 20:12
Re: No chance! 168 Corpuscles 29-Aug-19 22:29
Re: No chance! 104 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 20:03
Well done 160 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 13:54
Re: Well done 151 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:44
Not so easy to dismiss 147 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 16:20
Re: Not so easy to dismiss 154 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 18:10
What you call "patronizing' 150 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 18:58
differences of perspective, but . . . 152 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 20:04
Re: Why pretend? 154 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 21:50
Re: Why pretend? 159 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 00:05
Re: Why pretend? 155 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 03:56
Re: Why pretend? 154 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 04:30
Re: Why pretend? 151 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 05:01
Re: Why pretend? 154 Corpuscles 28-Aug-19 03:36
Re: Why pretend? 154 Corpuscles 28-Aug-19 04:58
Re: Why pretend? 159 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 06:34
Re: Why pretend? 163 Jrevans 27-Aug-19 15:54
There are other possibilities 162 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 17:19
Re: There are other possibilities 161 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 18:10
Big difference 155 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 19:26
Re: Big difference 162 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 06:45
Who made nothing? 155 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 02:05
Re: Why pretend? 155 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 06:21
Blew by you 158 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 20:16
Nope 156 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 02:04
Re: Why pretend? 157 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 05:31
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 166 GramPong 23-Aug-19 20:23
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 171 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 00:58
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 159 GramPong 24-Aug-19 17:02
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 162 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:45
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 169 GramPong 24-Aug-19 21:35
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 167 jazzmumbles 25-Aug-19 01:36
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 158 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 05:59
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 159 jazzmumbles 28-Aug-19 01:13
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 145 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 06:53
Music is for survival and love is a chemical! 152 greengirl5 26-Aug-19 08:13
Re: Music is for survival and love is a chemical! 165 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:07
Re: Music is for survival and love is a chemical! 155 greengirl5 26-Aug-19 22:45
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 161 rkmcquillen 26-Aug-19 20:20
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 156 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 20:41
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 158 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 21:31
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 149 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 21:55
Don't forget the oral traditions of indigenous tribes.... 167 Itatw70s 25-Aug-19 19:32
Mod Note > Topic Moved 191 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Aug-19 15:54
Great start 182 drrayeye 23-Aug-19 17:11
Re: Great start 174 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 18:01
Re: Great start 166 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:37
Re: Great start 177 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 01:25
Patterns of Evidence 166 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 03:37
Re: Great start 162 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 06:26
Re: Great start 163 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 13:11
Re: Great start 162 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:34
Re: Great start 163 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 17:43
Re: Great start 158 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:51
Let's help James explore 157 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 13:15
Re: Let's help James explore 170 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 13:24
Re: Let's help James explore 153 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 15:32
Re: Let's help James explore 158 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 16:19
Re: Let's help James explore 164 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 17:03
Re: Let's help James explore 166 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 17:23
More detail 163 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 18:31
interesting history 188 grangram 26-Aug-19 19:33
Re: interesting history 153 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:17
Re: interesting history 167 grangram 26-Aug-19 23:38
How about Noah's Ark 164 grangram 26-Aug-19 20:40
Re: How about Noah's Ark 156 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 21:38
Thanks 160 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:20
Rohl and the tower of babel? 160 grangram 28-Aug-19 09:51
Gabrieli oldstyle 145 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 14:18
Sometimes words get in the way 176 grangram 03-Sep-19 06:02
Finally watched both of them 140 drrayeye 12-Sep-19 07:44
Noah's Ark 195 grangram 12-Sep-19 09:19
Re: Let's help James explore 164 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 16:39
Re: Let's help James explore 168 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 17:22
Re: Let's help James explore 167 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 17:36
Re: Let's help James explore 155 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:58
Re: Let's help James explore 164 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 19:22
Re: Let's help James explore 159 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 06:06
Re: Let's help James explore 158 drrayeye 25-Aug-19 11:32
Re: Let's help James explore 155 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 13:01
Quality and Sensitivity 165 drrayeye 25-Aug-19 15:04
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 172 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 15:51
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 170 Eddie Larry 25-Aug-19 16:07
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 157 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 16:40
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 158 PB Bytes 25-Aug-19 16:59
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 161 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 17:14
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 174 PB Bytes 25-Aug-19 17:27
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 167 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 17:51
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 165 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 16:43
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 166 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 17:45
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 167 PB Bytes 25-Aug-19 17:53
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 159 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 18:02
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 181 PB Bytes 25-Aug-19 18:16
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 188 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 17:57
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 177 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 18:06
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 145 shando 02-Sep-19 12:16
I'm not a teacher 186 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 06:58
Re: I'm not a teacher 189 Eddie Larry 26-Aug-19 14:28
Re: I'm not a teacher 147 shando 02-Sep-19 12:21
Re: Great start 99 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 20:40
Re: Great start 207 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 15:28
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 167 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 12:42
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 176 Jrevans 29-Aug-19 21:43
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 181 Susan Doris 30-Aug-19 07:14
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 178 Jrevans 30-Aug-19 12:15
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 149 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 21:00
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 154 shando 02-Sep-19 18:04
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 161 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 05:17
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 100 Susan Doris 04-Mar-20 06:42
Salvation - another myth 143 Richard Fusniak 23-Oct-19 13:24
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 133 SandyJesse 01-Nov-19 22:27
Susan's thread--"from jrevans" 166 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 20:57
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 158 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Sep-19 21:25
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