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Shree Rama, the Solar dynasty king who incarnated as human form in one of the avatar of Lord Vishnu does really existed??

Science, a boon or bane we always ponder is not parochial. As the laws of motion cannot be questioned, scientific evidence is incontrovertible. Science also has a habit of shaking up the deepest foundations if they rest on a bed of lies.

A great historian of India describes Rig-Veda as “primitive animism”, the Mahabharata as the glorification of a “local feud” between two Aryan tribes, the Ramayana as “a description of local conflicts between the agriculturists of the Ganges Valley and the more primitive hunting and food-gathering societies of the Vindhyan region”. Is it not true that Ramayana is a conflict between Black (Forest Dwellers) and White (Aryan), since the ancient days?

The wonderful thing about the Ramayana is that when Valmiki wrote the epic, he made it in such a way that he packed so much information about the various planetary positions, the geography of the areas, the seasonal events, and about the genealogy of various kings that it is virtually a no-brainer to establish the dates on which those events occurred.
Genealogical links and archaeological findings provide clues to the dating of the Ramayana era. Any ancient history is supported with evidences of architecture and literature. The Sangam literature is the documented evidence for the existence and ruling of Tamil kings, and similarly, Ramayana and Mahabharata are the documented evidence for Rama and Krishna.
Archaeological and literary methods can only provide approximate datelines.
The Ramayana, and other ancient Indian texts like the Vedas, Puranas and Upanishads are true records of Indian history, interwoven with mythology, philosophy and spirituality.
To prove facts of history the basis to be Archeology, Astronomy, Geography and Geology.

The crux of the message is..
The Lord is the Shepherd, a religion says
The Lord is the Commander, a religion says
The Lord is Impermissible, a religion says and so on
In a nutshell the Lord is equated to King, the ruler who protects.

Every human being has the following principles – Creation, Preservation and Destruction. Without this nothing comes in and goes out.
A child creates the intellectual ability in himself/herself by watching, learning and so on. With this, the child tries to recollect and preserves the happenings with the abilities and moves forward to destruction of what is essential and what not and comes with a whole frame of mind. This work is evolving in the child and keeps one active.
Sleep is a naturally recurring state of mind characterized by altered consciousness, inhibition of voluntary muscles, sensory activity and reduced interaction with surroundings. During sleep, most systems are in an anabolic state, building up the Immune, nervous, skeletal, and muscular systems. Be it animal species or plant species, everything and everyone sleep. There are various patterns and diverse mechanisms of sleep.
Man sleeps to remove the tiredness and exhaustion caused in the body as a result of work or other related matter.
Work is defined as energy transferred from one system by forces acting upon. Man needs work to earn his livelihood for spending, enjoying and so forth. Without work, all species are moved to idle state which lands to dead state.
Eat known as consuming is the ingestion of food to provide energy and growth. A basic element that is a must for all, to survive for the next day.
Defecation is the final act of digestion, by which organisms eliminate solid, semisolid, and/or liquid waste material.
The above is the process that is a continual one, since the world, where we live in is created.

Do we call this a Myth or Reality?
We say it is real, for we see and know that this is happening day in and day out. But this is happening since time immemorial. But there are facts attributed to it and we tend to believe facts based on reason.
History reveals the past and we ride on history. Many generations have elapsed and we continue our work and fight with each one in terms of knowledge, power, strength and so on.
To make History see through, we need many from Astronomy, Science, Archeologist, Geographist, Linguistic and Historians. For without them, we are a lost world and of course Man, a social being is dependent.

In this context, let us understand the intricacies of the great Epic Ramayana and arrive at a conclusion.

YUGA in Hinduism is Epoch or Era, divided into 4 age-cycles namely
Satya, Treta, Dwapara , Kaliyuga.

Taking 100 years as approximatel for 1 Human Year,
1 Day of Brahma is 1000 Mahayugas = 43200000000 human years
1 year of Devas is 360 Human years
The duration of Satya yuga is 4,800 x 360, or 1,728,000 years.
The duration of Treta yuga is 3,600 x 360, or 1,296,000 years.
The duration of Dwapara yuga is 2500 x 360 or 900,000 years
The duration of Kali yuga is 1100 x 360 or 396,000 years

1. Satyayuga - Golden age

Amongst the four eras, the Satya Yuga is the first and the most significant one. Knowledge, meditation, and penance hold special importance in this era. All the pillars of Dharma are present in totality. During Satya Yuga, all people engage only in good, sublime deeds. Ashrams become devoid of wickedness and deceit. Lord Vishnu incarnated in four forms i.e. Matsya, Kurma, Varaha and Narsimha in this era.The only text which was considered credible and was followed was Manu’s Dharma Shastra. The average life expectancy of a human being in Satya Yuga was approximately 4000 years.

One shall witness the total establishment of Sanatan Dharma (eternal religion). The Rik, Sama and Yajurveda were not separate and demarcated. This era was devoid of agricultural activities or any other type of activity. Just by mere contemplation one would beget desired results. No one would try to point out faults or demerits in anyone’s personality. The personality was not plagued by demerits like ego, sorrow, violent thought (aggression), jealousy, hatred, backbiting, fear, anger and lethargy.
People practice austerities and penance to attain Brahman and response their faith in the Vedas and the Sanatan Dharma. Great sages embellished with divinity would be born in this era.

In this age man's age is approx 100,000 years and height is approx 32 feet.
The quality of virtue is 100%

2. Tretayug – Silver age

In this age, the main avatar are Vama, Parasuram, Rama.
In this age man's age - 10,000 years and height of man is 21 feet.
The quality of virtue is 75%

3. Dwaparug – Bronze age

In this age, the main avatar is Balaram, Krishna.
In this age of man is approx 1000 years and height of man is 11 feet.
The quality of virtue is 50%

4. Kaliyug- Iron age

In this age, the main avatar is Kalki.
In this age, man’s age is approx. 100 years and height is 6 feet.
The quality of virtue is 25%
The pilgrimage place is Ganga.

According to Hinduism, Time (Kala) is a manifestation of God (Isvara). In his absolute state God is timeless, eternal, permanent, unchangeable, indestructible, and without movement and duality. Being indivisible, the divisions of time do not exist in Him. In the projected worlds, it becomes divisible and manifests as a cyclical and repetitive phenomenon.
In creation, Time is the foundation of life, order and regularity. It serves many purposes. Because of Time, beings experience change, aging, death and rebirth in the mortal worlds. It is also considered a force of Nature and the source of change, movement, instability, and impermanence.
In Hinduism, Time is not linear, but cyclical, just as the days and nights, seasons, months and years. Because of Time, creation itself becomes cyclical and repetitive, with each cycle having a beginning and an end, and progressive phases of evolution and involution. While we cannot predict the events on the timeline of the earth or the cosmos, we can predict the recurring events of Time such as days and nights, months, years, seasons, the movements of the sun, moon and stars, and so on.

Between one Yuga to another Yuga, a transition phase exists in which a deluge results which wipes out the entire geneaology of the previous yuga

Discussion Basis
- Archeology, History, Astronomy, Literary

Many in the past have given feelers of the existence of places as said in Ramayana and have quite accurately arrived in predicting the near exact date. Let us analyze by bringing forth all what have been said and arrive at a consensus.

The term Lemuria has its origins in the latter part of the 19 th century. The English geologist Philip Sclater was puzzled by the presence of lemur fossils in Madagascar and India but not in mainland Africa and the Middle East. Thus, he proposed that Madagascar and India were once part of a larger continent, and named this missing landmass ‘Lemuria’. With the emergence of the modern concepts of continental drift and plate tectonics, the proposition of a submerged continent was no longer tenable. But, the idea of a lost continent refused to die, and some still believe that Lemuria was an actual continent that existed in the past.
Stories about an ancient land submerged by the Indian Ocean have been recorded in many earlier Tamil literary works. According to the stories, there was a portion of land that was once ruled by the Pandiyan kings and was swallowed by the sea. When narratives about Lemuria arrived in colonial India, the country was going through a period when folklore was beginning to permeate historic knowledge as facts. As a result, Lemuria was quickly equated with Kumari Kandam.
The story of Kumari Kandam is not regarded as just a story, but seems to be laden with nationalistic sentiments. It has been claimed that the Pandyan kings of Kumari Kandam were the rulers of the whole Indian continent, and that Tamil civilisation is the oldest civilisation in the world. When Kumari Kandam was submerged, its people spread across the world and founded various civilizations, hence the claim that the lost continent was also the cradle of human civilization.
According to researchers at India’s National Institute of Oceanography, the sea level was lower by 100 m about 14,500 years ago and by 60 m about 10,000 years ago. Hence, it is entirely possible that there was once a land bridge connecting the island of Sri Lanka to mainland India. As the rate of global warming increased between 12,000 and 10,000 years ago, the rising sea levels resulted in periodic flooding. This would have submerged prehistoric settlements that were located around the low-lying coastal areas of India and Sri Lanka. Stories of these catastrophic events may have been transmitted orally from one generation to another and finally written down as the story of Kumari Kandam.
One piece of evidence used to support the existence of Kumari Kandam is Adam’s Bridge, a chain of limestone shoals made up of sand, silt and small pebbles located in the Palk Strait extending 18 miles from mainland India to Sri Lanka. This strip of land was once believed to be a natural formation, however, others argue that images taken by a NASA satellite depict this land formation to be a long broken bridge under the ocean's surface.

The old notion that the Hindus were essentially a landlocked people, lacking in a spirit of adventure and the heart to brave the seas, is now dispelled. The researches of a generation of scholars have proved that from very early times the people of India were distinguished by nautical skill and enterprise that they went on trading voyages to distant shores across the seas, and even established settlements and colonies in numerous lands and islands. Boat-making and ship-building industries were found in India since ancient times.
In the Vedic period, sea was frequently used for trade purposes. The Rig Veda mentions "merchants who crowd the great waters with ships". The Ramayana speaks of merchants who crossed the sea and bought gifts for the king of Ayodhya. Manu legislates for safe carriage and freights by river and sea.
In the Shanti Parvan of the Mahabharata it is said that the navy is one of the angas (part) of the complete army. Examples of ships being used for military purposes are not lacking. When Vidura scented danger to Kunti’s five sons, he made them escape to the forest with their mother, crossing the Ganges in a boat equipped with weapons having the power of withstanding wind and wave.
In the Dig Vijaya portion of the Sabha parva, it is said that Sahadeva crossed the sea and brought many islands under his sway after defeating the Mlecchas and other mixed tribes inhabiting them. If this be an historical fact the inference is irresistible that he could not have effected his conquest without the use of boats and vessels. We read in the Ramayana that Durmukha, a Raksasa, who had been fired by the impulse of anger at the deeds of Hanuman, offered his services to Ravana even to fight on the sea.

It is also mentioned that march to Persia through the land route, and not by the sea route, thereby showing that the latter was the more common route.
Historians say that ‘the creation of the Admiralty department was an innovation due to the genius of Chandragupta.

Turning to the history of South India, we have evidence to show that the country had trade and culture contacts with foreign countries like Rome in the west and Malay Archipelago and Southeast Asia in the east. Yavana ships laden with articles of merchandise visited the west coast frequently. There was active foreign trade between Tamil Indian and the outer world at least from the time of Soloman, i.e. about 1000 B.C.

Negotiation, persuasion and conciliation were cardinal points of the ancient Indian diplomatic system, and were effective instruments in averting many a war, which would otherwise have realized in much bloodshed and economic distress.

The testimony to the system of espionage was prevalent as early as the time of the Rig Veda Samhita. In the battle of the ten Kings described in the seventh mandala, we find diplomacy of rulers getting supplemented by its association with priestly diplomacy, which exercised a healthy influence on the constitutional evolution.
Spies filled an important role in both the civil and military affairs of ancient India. The institution of spies had a greater utility, as the king could take action on the report of the spies. Spies were engaged to look after the home officials, including those of the royal household as well as to report on the doings in the enemy kingdoms.
In the epics and post-epic literature in general, spies have been described as the 'Eyes of the king'. Only men of wisdom and purity were sent on this errand, thus suggesting that they should be persons above corruption and temptation of any sort. In the Udyoga-parva of Mahabharata, it is stated that "Cows see by Smell, Priests by Knowledge, Kings by Spies, and others through Eyes."
It is said that "The enemy, whose secrets have been known through espionage, can be conquered without much effort." The Arthashastra, which predates Christ by centuries, dwells at length on the importance of espionage and the creation of an effective spy network.
The origin and use of flags can be traced to the earliest Indian literature, the Rig Veda Samhita. We find a good number of expressions for a banner in Vedic literature. These are Akra, Krtadhvaja, Ketu, Brhatketu, Sahasraketu. It appears that the Vedic host aimed their arrows at the banners of the enemy.
The idea was that once the banner was captured, or struck, a claim was made for success in the battle over the enemy. Ketu was a small flag as contrasted with Brhatketu or the big flag. Sahasraketu may be a thousand flag, or as the knight who brought under control a thousand flags of enemies. We are told that banners and drums were counted among the insignia of ancient Vedic kings. In the Mahabharata war, every leader had his own insignia to distinguish one division from the other.

The Puranas are basically the history of India and the Gods. They are heavily laced with mythology and supernatural events. But they do provide a comprehensive genealogy of Indian kings and priestly lineage right upto around 4000BCE (probably the time when the first Rig Vedic hymns were being composed). The Puranas assert again and again that 1015 or 1050 years passed between birth of Parikshit (grandson of Arjuna) and the ascension of Mahapadma Nanda (historically dated to either 378BCE or 382BCE). Given that Parikshit was born within a year of the Kurukshetra war, this would put the battle somewhere between 1432BCE-1393BCE.
Chariot battles were popular in a very specific window of history, viz. the Bronze Age when metallurgy was already sophisticated enough for strong and light chariot wheels; and before the rise of cavalry made chariots redundant. The first chariot found by archaeology dates to 2200 BC (Sintashta, Asian Russia). Its high tide in warfare was in the later 2nd and the early 1st millennium BC: many wars of that period were fought with chariots, e.g. the Trojan war of 1200BC.
Indians say that the war described in the Mahabharata took place in 3139 BCE, based on the length of the Four Ages given in the Puranas. The doctrine of Four Ages is very ancient, but their quantification is apparently linked with the precession of the equinoxes, discovered by Hipparchos in 150 BCE and introduced in India only in the subsequent centuries.
Archaeological studies reveal that the first human inhabitation happened in Sri Lanka around 1,750,000 years ago and it’s been proved that the bridge’s age dates back to the same equivalent.
As said, if one digs the earth below to a further 5000 feet, one might be able to surface evidence. But that is not practical, as today lot of dwellings have come up and some are lost in the sea and so on and soforth.

Flora and Fauna
Let us see the Flowering trees and of plants that have been described in times of Sri Rama existence and is present to this day.
Chitrakuta is a Tropical Deciduous forest comprising of flowering trees as Mango, Beal, Jackfruit, Lodhra, Nipa,Tilka, Arista, Dhanvan, Vetra to name a few.
Dandhakarnya is a Tropical Deciduous forest comprising of sacred grass, Sal tree, Dhava, Balsam, Kaubha, Bilva, Tinduka, Badri to name a few.
Panchavati is a Tropical Dry Desiduous forest comprising of Palmyra, Tamala, Jackfruit, Punnaga, Sandalwood, Champaka, Lakucha, Patala, Kimsuka, Aquatic lotus and cereals like Barley, Wheat, Salic rice to name a few.
Kishkinda is a Dry and Moist Deciduous forest comprising of fruit yielding varieties like Jambu,Priyala, Plaksha, Panasa,Tilaka, Ashoka, Mandara, Kadambha, Karavira, Punnaga, Vanjula, Champaka, Ketaki, Lodhra, Sirisa, Hintala, Samali and adding to it creepers like Mallika, Vasanthi,Madhavi binding around trees to name a few.
Himalaya Alpine region - In this there are 3 jointed mountains namely Kailasha, Rishabh and Maodhaya (Oshandhi).
In one of the mountains there is a hill named Dronagiri where Hanuman looked for the Mrita Sanjeevani herb.
Evergreen forest of SriLanka
The two main characteristics of the Lankan forests are the Natural and the Naturalized forests.
The natural forests comprise mainly sub-forest. The other features of the natural
forests are rock plants, sufficient water sources and their biodiversity.
The naturalized forest is best described in the graphic account of the ashoka vana, named after the principal plant, the ashoka.
Varieties of Ashoka of different colours viz, golden, fiery red, dark coloured (anjana) blue (niila) and skin colour (kecit) Kalpa vriksha (Santanaka) which is excellent in fragrance and the continuous oozing of juice from them is described as entwined with hundreds of creeping plants and water surface area covered with lillies.
Apart from these Mango, beal (Bengal quince), jackfruit, jujube, myrobalan and a type of
sour-fruit called bhavya (Dillenia), campaka (Champak), chandana (Sandalwood tree),nagakesara (Cobras saffron, Iron wood tree), sala (Sal), uddalaka (Indian Cherry) and mango groves. Also there were several types of sacred trees: the rathyavriksha, devata nishthana, chaitya to name a few.

Places associated
Chitrakuta is near the border of Uttar Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh, due south of Lucknow. It is 132 km south of Allahabad. Rama and Sita lived here for 11 years of their 14-year exile.
Bharata, the brother of Rama, came to Chitrakuta and begged Rama to return to Ayodhya, but he would not disobey his father's order. Rama stayed on Kamadgiri (the hill which can fulfill all desires).
Ramkund is the place where river Godavari unites with two other rivers Varuni and Tharuni. This combination of three rivers is known as Triveni Sangam, in which people believed Rama bathed.
Nasik is a holy city located about five hours north-east of Mumbai (187 km). Lord Rama stayed here for some time during his exile. In fact, Sita was carried off by Ravanna from this very place. Nasik lies on the banks of the Godavari river, which flows towards the Bay of Bengal. Lakshmana also cut off the nose of Surpanakha, the younger sister of Ravanna, at this sport. That is why this place got the name Nasik.
Hampi is the place that Shri Rama first met Hanuman. It is also said to be the spot where Parvati (known as Hampi) met and married Lord Shiva.
The town of Anegundi, about 5 km from Hampi, is situated on the north bank of the Tungabhadra River. Local people believe this to be the ancient place known as Kishkindha where Rama met Hanuman and Sugriva. The Rishmukh mountain mentioned in the Ramayana is also near Hampi.
The ancient place, Kishkindha, was ruled by Sugriva and Bali. After a quarrel with Bali, Sugriva was driven out. He then went to stay at Matanga-Parvata Hill. One can get a good view of the surrounding area from the top of this hill.
Rama killed Bali and restored the kingdom to Sugriva. While Hanuman went to search for Sita, it is said that Rama stayed at Malyavanta Hill, which is on the road to Kampili, about 6 km east of the Virupaksa temple.
On the way between Virupaksa temple and Vitthala temple, there is a cave on the bank of the Tungabhadra river where Sugriva is said to have hidden Sita's jewels for safety. There are marks and streaks on the rocks, which are said to have been made by Sita's ornaments.
There is a huge mound of scorched ash in the nearby village of Nimbapuram that is said to be the cremated remains of Bali. Northwest to that place is the birth place of Hanuman.
Rameswaram is a holy city where near the temple is a bridge that one crosses to enter the city with a floating rock inside. When Shri Rama went to Lanka with the monkey army, they crossed the ocean on a bridge of floating rocks. Near this temple, close to the bridge, is Lakshmana Tirtha and Rama Tirtha. Shri Rama is said to have bathed in these two tanks. Kodi Tirtha is supposed to be a spring that Shri Rama created by shooting an arrow into the ground. It is said that at Jata Tirtha, Shri Rama washed his hair to get rid of any sin that he might have incurred in the battle at Lanka.
The natural bridge consisting of coral reefs and reef islands, which served as a substratum for Rama's artificial bridge, is still visible in satellite imagery.

This region contains stones whose relative density is lower than water. Hence these stones float in water. Such floating stones and even floating blocks of land are produced as a result of biological, chemical and volcanic activities associated with the coral reef complexes and other biological growths in the sea shores and lake-shores throughout theworld.

Floating rocks such as Pumice rocks are formed due to volcanic activities, containing numerous pores with gas trapped inside. Such rocks are sometimes used to construct bridges across water-bodies. They are often used by magicians in ancient India to produce the impression of walking upon the surface of water. Sometimes inflammable gas is trapped in these rocks and these are used by some warrior-tribes as a firearm (fire-stones) in ancient battles like Kurukshetra war in Mahabharata and Rama-Ravana war in Ramayana. These stones produce fire or poisonous gas upon exploding.

There is another phenomenon called floating islands, which are naturally formed islands that float in the sea as a mass of aquatic plants, mud and rocks. These islands can also be created artificially. Many tribes in Peru still make such islands using bundled reeds and by connecting together many wooden rafts and reed boats. The floating mountain peak named Mainaka, described in Ramayana as lying between Lanka and Indian mainland seems to be such a floating island.
Some among the Vanaras, like Nala seems to be expert in construction of floating structures. Nala is described as son of architect Viswakarma, an allusion to his architectural skills. As we have already seen, Viswakarmas were a class of people skilled in architecture, like the Mayas of India and the Mayans of Meso-America. From the narration of bridge construction it is clear that they used, rocks, trees, reeds, logs, strings and roots to make the bridge.

There are also several reef islands and ordinary islands in between India and Srilanka. Even today there are 20 such islands. The number of islands could be more (close to 100) when sea levels where lower, as was the case during the period when Rama’s bridge was constructed.

Ramayana Sites in Sri Lanka
The Ramayana is an ancient Sanskrit epic attributed to the poet Valmiki and an important part of the Hindu canon. One of the most important literary works of ancient India, the Ramayana consists of 7 chapters (Kanda), and narrates the story of Rama’s wife Sita being abducted by Ravana, the demon (Rakshasa) king of Lanka.
According to the Ramayana, King Ravana brought Sita Devi from India in a "Pushpaka Vimana" which is widely known in Sri Lanka as the "Dandu Monara Yanthranaya," or Large Peacock Machine in Sinhala.
The Ramayana has fascinated many generations, and had a profound impact on art and culture in the Indian subcontinent and Southeast Asia.
For over thousands of years, the Ramayana, epic of Asia, has had an unshakeable hold on the beliefs of vast multitudes of Asia’s teeming millions. As diverse span of humanity as Kashmiri pandits and Cambodian fishermen, it is the universal heritage of all humanity.
A rich legacy of sites and temples in the country where the most significant events of this epic took place - Lankapura - Sri Lanka. Though some people do not believe that the present Sri Lanka is the one mentioned in the Ramayana, when we investigate the area, there is still much convincing tradition therein and many sites identified with the Ramayana.
Sri Lanka is the proud custodian of more than 50 Ramayana sites from the place of Sita Devi’s captivity to the battlefields where vast armies clashed, to the groves of exotic herbs dropped by Hanuman, to the ultimate theater of war where Lord Rama slew Ravana, the ten-headed demon-king.
People living in the areas where great events took place remember to this day the connection of their soil to the great epic. An oath taken at the spot where Sita Devi undertook "Agni Pariksha" is still considered valid in village courts or grama sabhas. The color of the soil of the ancient battlefield is still red today, and is still surrounded by lighter colored earth. One of the airports of Ravana, torched by Hanuman when he came looking for Sita Devi, still has a scorched-earth look. A patch of darker soil surrounded by brown earth. Exotic alpine Himalayan species are found suddenly amidst tropical Sri Lankan vegetation, the legacy of Hanuman’s heroic voyage carrying a mountain with life-restoring herbs.
Incredibly, the names of places have come down to modern times unchanged. Though great social, cultural and religious changes have taken place in Sri Lanka since.
Sri Lanka shares a special bond with India geographically, historically, culturally and spiritually. The Ramayana begins with Ayodhya in India and climaxes at Lankapura.
Ravana, using a golden deer as a decoy, visited Sita when she was alone. In the guise of an old sage, he abducted and brought her to Weragantota in Lanka in his plane, the Pushpaka vimana. There are other Airports of Ravana as Thotupolakanda (Mountain port in Horton plains), Ussangoda (Area of Lift in Southern coast), Wariapola (Aircraft port in Matale and Kurunagala).
Weragantota means the "place of aircraft landing" in Sinhala. This is the first place Sita Devi was brought to Lankapura (capita city of king Ravana). These jungles are the place where the city of Lankapura once stood. The city had a beautiful palace for Queen Mandothari surrounded by waterfalls, streams and varieties of flora and fauna. Sita Devi was kept at Queen Mandothari’s palace at Lankapura. The place Sita was held captive is called Sita Kotuwa, which means "Sita’s Fort" in Sinhala. It is believed Ravana had an aircraft repair center at Gurulupotha close to Sita Kotuwa. Sita devi was kept in queen Mandothari’s palace until she was moved to Sita Kotuwa and then on to Ashoka Vatika. The remains that are found here are the remnants of later civilizations. In Valmiki's depiction, King Ravana’s vimana resembled a huge peacock. The vimana in Sinhala language means "Dhandu Monara" which is known as "flying peacock," and hence the name Gurulupotha, which means "parts of birds" in Sinhala. This is also called Gavagala.
Ravana moved Sita from Sita Kotuwa to Ashok Vatika the salubrious garden in the mountains. The route too was said to be spectacularly beautiful, as Ravana wanted to show Sita the beauty of his kingdom. The barren land atop the mountain range is believed to be the route in which King Ravana took Sita devi from his capital city Lankapura to Ashoka Vatika, which was a paradise on earth. The Chariot Path atop the mountain range is still visible. Till date no vegetation grows on this passage except grass. King Ravana is believed to have taken this passage on top of these hills to show Sita devi the beauty of his kingdom.
Ashok Vatika is the garden where Ravana held Sita captive. This is in the area of Sita Eliya, close to the city of Nuwara Eliya. The stream that runs from the hill catered to the needs of Sita devi during her stay at Ashok Vatika. She is said to have bathed in this stream. The Hakgala Gardens located at the base of the Hakgala Rock forms part of the famed Ashok Vatika. The Sita Pokuna is a barren area atop the Hakgala Rock Jungle where Sita was kept captive. The Sita Amman Temple is located at this spot. It is interesting to note that foot prints akin to Hanuman’s are found by this river and some are of small size and some are of large size, which tells us of the immense powers of Hanuman transforming himself into any size.
About a century ago three images were discovered in the stream, one of which was that of Sita. It is believed that the deities have been worshipped at this spot for centuries. Now there is temple for Lord Rama, Sitadevi, Lakshmana, and Hanuman by the side of this stream.
The summit of the mountain next to the mountain range overlooking Frotoft Estate in Pussallawa is the place where Hanuman first set his foot on mainland Lanka. This mountain known as Pawala Malai is visible from this mountain range. These hills stand tall in-between King Ravana’s capital city and Ashoka Vatika.
The Sita tear pond is found en route by the chariot route, and is believed to have been formed by the tears of Sita devi. It has not dried up since, even during severe droughts when the adjoining rivers dry up. Visitors could also see the famed Sita Flowers which are endemic to this area. In this area there are many large trees whose bright red blooms add color to the scenery. These flowers are called Sita flowers. The peculiarity of these flowers is the configuration of the petal’s, stamen and pistils, which resemble a human figure carrying a bow, and is said to represent Lord Rama. These flowers are unique only to this area in the whole of Sri Lanka.
Sugriva, ruler of the Vanara, ordered his monkey armies to search for Sita in all four corners of the earth. Hanuman, Angada, Jambavan and other heroes traveled southwards. Hanuman was the only one strong enough to cross the ocean to reach Lanka. Whilst crossing the ocean, Hanuman was tested by Surasa Devi, the Naga maiden en-route to Lanka. This place is now called Nagadipa.
Hanuman after meeting Sita at Ashok Vatika, decided to test the strength of King Ravana and his army of Rakshasas. He invited battle by uprooting trees and destroying the garden. Upon being captured by the Rakshasa guards, Hanuman was brought in the presence of Ravana. As a punishment, Hanuman’s tail was set on fire. Hanuman in turn set fire to the houses in the city. Ussangoda is one such torched area.
On the way back to India Hanuman rested at Mani Kattuthar. The hilltop where Hanuman is believed to have rested after meeting Sita devi is known as Mani Kattuthar. This is a rock in the Labookelle estate. Hanuman met Sita devi and on his way to announce this happy information to Lord Rama, rested on this hilltop. Today an open temple with statues of Lord Rama, Sita devi, Lakshmana, and Hanuman stands on top of it. Locals visit the temple often.
Near by is the village of Kondagala, known as Kondakalai in Tamil, where Sita is said to have deranged her hair whilst passing the place. Kondakalai (Kondagala), like many other cities and villages in Sri Lanka, also derives its name from the Ramayana. When King Ravana took Sita devi in a chariot to Ashoka Vatika, her hairs got deranged because of the speed of the chariot. "Konda kalai" in Tamil means "deranging of hair." Till date the villagers live with the legacy of this event.
The village also contains Sita Gooli which are rice balls offered by Ravana to Sita; which she refused and threw away. When King Ravana carried Sita devi on his chariot to Ashoka Vatika, he provided her with vitaminized rice balls for refreshment. But Sita devi who did not want to consume anything provided by King Ravana, scattered the rice balls all over the place during her journey, and they are found till date along the chariot track. The local people call these rice balls Sita Gooli and they prescribe them for their children as a cure for stomach disorders and headaches. The farmers too keep them in their cash boxes or grain pots for prosperity.
Upon hearing Hanuman’s threat and seeing his capabilities, King Ravana decided to hide Sita at various secret locations as a precautionary measure. Ravanagoda, which means Ravana’s place in the Kotmale area, is one such complex of tunnels and caves.

Istirapura is another ingenious network of paths which are interconnected with all major areas of king Ravana’s city. Istripura means "Area of Women" in Sinhala. This refers to the retinue of ladies Ravana made available to look after Sita.
Konda Kattu Gala refers to the many intruding tunnels and caves in this area. This seems to be a part of a great ingenious network of paths, which is interconnected to all the major areas of King Ravana’s city. Sita devi took bath in this very stream and had dried her hair sitting on a rock and put clips to her hair, hence this rock is known as Konda Kattu Gala. This is situated in the Welimada Area.
The tunnel network proves beyond doubt the architectural brilliance of King Ravana. These tunnels served as a quick means of transport through the hills and also as a secret passage and networked all the important cities, airports and dairy farms. A close look at these tunnels indicates that they are man-made and not natural formations. The Buddhist shrine at Kalutara was once where King Ravana’s palace and a tunnel existed. Additional existing tunnel mouths are situated at Welimada, Ravana cave at Bandarawela, Senapitiya at Halagala, Ramboda, Labookelle, Wariyapola/Matale, and Sitakotuwa/Hasalaka, along with many more tunnels.
Gayathri Peedum is believed to be the place from where King Ravana’s son Meghanath propitiated Lord Shiva with penance and pujas, and in turn was granted super natural powers by Lord Shiva prior to the battle. Neelawari is located in the North of the country in the Jaffna peninsula and is where Lord Rama shot an arrow to the ground to obtain water for his army upon arriving at Lanka.
Dondra, Seenigama & Hikkaduwa are places in the South of Lanka where Sugriva prepared for his onslaught on King Ravana’s forces from the Southern flank.
During the height of the battle Indrajit, elder son of Ravana beheaded a lookalike of Sita Devi in front of Hanuman to break his spirit. This place is known as Sitawaka in the Avissawella area.
Yudhaganawa, meaning battlefield in Sinhala, is a place in Wasgamuwa where the major battles took place.
Upon being hit by Indrajit’s Brahmastra, both Rama, Lakshmana and the monkey army lay unconscious on the battle field. To cure them, Jambavan the veteran monkey instructed Hanuman to go to Sanjeevani Parvatha, the hill of herbs between Rishhaba and Kilasa peaks in the Himalayas and bring the necessary medicinal herbs. As he could not identify which herbs to select, Hanuman uprooted the entire peak with all the herbs growing there from the mountain and returned to Lanka.
Parts of the hill fell on five places in Sri Lanka; namely Rumassala in Galle, Dolukanda in Hiripitiya, Ritigala close to Habarana on the Habarana Anuradhapura road, Talladi in Mannar, and Katchchathivu in the north.
Lord Karthikaya was requested to go to battle by Lord Indra to protect Lord Rama from king Ravana’s Brahmastra. This was at Kataragama, which is now a very popular place for worship among Sri Lankans.
Dunuvila lake is a place from which Lord Rama fired the Brahmastra arrow at king Ravana who was directing the war from Laggala. It is here that King Ravana was killed by Lord Rama’s brahmastharam. The top of Laggala is flat and is believed to have been affected by the power of the brahmastharam.
The name Laggala is derived from the Sinhala term "Elakke Gala", which means Target Rock. Laggala served as a sentry point to observe Lord Rama’s army. The cartels behind the Dunuvila lake are called Laggala. It was from this rock the first glimpse of Lord Rama’s army was sighted and informed to King Ravana. This hill is geographically the highest part of the northern region of King Ravana’s city and on a clear day the north east side that is Thiru Koneshwaran and north west side that is Talai Mannar can be seen even today. King Ravana is believed to have done meditation on this rock and prayed to Lord Shiva at Thiru Koneshwaran from this point.
After Ravana’s death, his body was kept at Yahangala, meaning "Bed Rock" in Sinhala. This is situated along the Mahiyanganaya - Wasgamuwa road. King Ravana’s body was kept upon this rock so his countrymen could pay their last respects to their dear departed king. Geographically this rock is visible from miles away on its 3 sides.
Sita met Rama after the war, and Divurumpola is the place she under went the "Agni" test of fire where she proved her innocence and purity to Rama. Divurumpola means the "Place of Oath" in Sinhala. She came out unscathed and proved her innocence and purity.
The spot was initially fenced and walled to protect it from the surrounding wilderness. Then a sapling of the Anuradhapura bodhi tree (one of the 30 original saplings) was planted as a mark of respect for the place. A small pagoda was built subsequently under the Bodhi tree. The temple depicts paintings of the Ramayana epic.
Today the temple is revered for the oath taken by Sita devi and even the legal system permits and accepts the swearing done at this temple while settling disputes between parties.
Vantharamulai is a place that Lord Rama, Sita Devi, Lakshmana, and Hanuman rested after the turmoil of the war. Amaranthakali is believed to be the place where they had the first meal after the war.
When returning to India in one of King Ravana’s vimanas, Rama felt he was followed by a Brahmahasti Dhosham, a malevolent black shadow or dark cloud capable of taking His life, as He had killed Ravana, a Brahmin. When the vimana was passing over Munneswaram, He felt the vimana vibrating, and at Muneswaram realized the "Brahmaasthi Dosham" was not following him at this particular point. So Rama felt safe from the "Brahmahasti Dhosham" at Munneswaram. So Lord Rama stopped the vimana at this juncture and asked Lord Shiva for a remedy. This is the place where Lord Rama prayed to Lord Shiva and where Shiva blessed Lord Rama and advised installing and praying to four lingams to get rid of the Dhosham. The first Lingam was installed at Manavari about 5 Km from here, near the banks of Deduru Oya. This was followed by the lingams at Thiru Koheneshwaram, Thiru Ketheshwaram, and Rameshwaram in India.
It is believed that Munneswaram predates the Ramayana and a temple dedicated to Lord Shiva was located here. Munneswaram means the first temple for Shiva (Munnu + Easwaran). A Shiva Lingam was already here when lord Rama visited the place.
After King Ravana’s death, Ravana’s brother Vibhishana was coronated as a king of Lanka by Lakshmana at Kelaniya. Kelaniya is the closest site to Colombo connected to the Ramayana.
There exists a Buddhist temple, the Kelaniya Buddhist Temple and shrine for King Vibishana. There are murals enshrined outside the Buddhist temple depicting the crowning of Vibishana. Vibishana is considered one of the four guardian deities of Sri Lanka, and temples for Vibishana are found throughout Sri Lanka. A painting of King Vibishana also adorns the new Parliament of Sri Lanka. In fact, there are no temples dedicated for Ravana, but many exist for Vibishana; this goes to prove that his stand towards Vedic Dharma & justice made people to revere him as a god in Sri Lanka.
The Kelani River is mentioned in the Valmiki Ramayana and Vibishana’s palace was said to be on the banks of this river. There are many other places such as Ramavari, Manavari and Ravana maricha and so on.
Till date the bridge, constructed by Rama to march ahead to Srilanka with his army is seen from the space. A man made bridge in the ocean of floating stones and other type of stones, to withstand the strength of movement of army which no architecture to this date has ever thought of.

A Brief History of India –

( Harynka and Shishnag were the first great empire of India)
King Sumitra was the last ruler of Ikshvakuvansh/Suryavansha. He was defeated and driven out from Ayodhya by Mahapadma Nanda in B.C.E. 362
Nanda dynasty roots were from Ikshavahu dynasty.
Nandas were thrown out by Magadh, during which period the throne was seized by Chandragupta Maurya , who established Mauryan dynasty from 320BCE and during this time Alexander invaded India.
Chandragupta son Bimbisara ascended the throne and his son Ashoka, later established great rule in India. After Ashoka, came Greek and Bactrians invading India.
Then from 1 CE onwards, Mahayana movement started followed by Gupta dynasty which prevailed till 500 CE and after that many kingdoms rose and in 710CE, the great Muslim ruler Muhammed bin Quasim conquered North India, establishing Sultannate invasion in India, who was thrown out by Mongolians. After this many kings fought and many dynasty ruled.

The Khilji dynasty was established by Jalal ud din Firuz Khilji and under Juna Khan (Allaudin Khilji), the Khilji dynasty became prominent and with many invasions, Malik Khafur who was bought as a slave by Allaudin became the monarch, 1300CE.

Scientific Evidence

Modern Scientific corroborating evidences come in the form of the following:
Astronomical Skycharts using modern scientific tools, Geological Surveys and research, Archeological research, Historical notes of travelers.

Thus an integrated analysis of the above in a rational, scientific and wholistic manner confirms the following:

Rama indeed was historical and lived around 5000BCE.
The path traversed by Rama is predominantly in India and SriLanka.
Rama and his team built a bridge to cross over to Lanka, a man made accretion over a natural formation in the sea, symbolizing Adi Dravida engineering.
Evidence of historical records of usage till 1480 of the bridge, which was disrepair due to a cyclone.
It was called Aadham (Adam's) bridge because Sri Lanka’s first Muslim leader came to Sri Lanka from India over this Bridge
Moreso evidence of information inherent in culture, native knowledge of locals, authentic travelogues, historical notes, research works prove the compilation of the result of existence and travelogue of Rama, which indeed cannot be written by a person without knowing the land markings and of related incidents.

The Oceans of the world and always have been a mystery. One very pervasive enigma of the sea is its habit of swallowing up people and things without a trace.
Cosmic Evidence

The entire Cosmos is divided into concentric circles, each separated by encircling ocean, each doubling in size to the preceding one. There are seven such continents namely Jambudvipa (Land of Berries), Plaksadvipa (Land of Fig trees), Salmalidvipa (Land of Silk Cotton trees), Kusadvipa (Land of Grass), Krouncadvipa (Land of Krounca birds), Sakadvipa (Land of Saka trees, fragrant one) and Pushkaradvipa (Land of Lakes). The immediate oceans consists of salt-water, sugarcane juice, wine, ghee, curd, milk and water respectively.

The Jambudvipa comprises of nine Varshas(Zones) and eight Parvathas(Mountains).
This is depressed in the south and north and elevated and broad in the middle. In this elevated plain lies the Meru parvath.

With the changes, this Jambudvipa formed into a single landmass called Supercontinent or Pangea, by our modern scientists.
The fact that the Earth’s crust floats on the hot, molten layer called Magma and the solid crust not only moves on top of the fluid layer but is also broken into pieces called Plates and the movement of these plates are referred as Tectonic Plate.

One such Techtonic plate explains the formation of Himalayas (Collision between
Indian plate and Eurasian plate)
With different plates in motion, the present day modern world is formed and this keeps on changing and evolving, proving by Fossil studies, which shows a remarkable similarity amongst distribution of wild life.
The movement of the plates has resulted in the formation and disintegration of Super Continents.


As Jambudvipa has split over the eons, so has human species and divided into innumerable tribes, religions, races and nations.

Lineage of Rama
Lord Brahma created 10 prajapatis (Mind born son) — one of whom was Marichi.
There were many sons and daughters born, but we take the most relevant and associated for the work.
Brahma Prajapathi – Marichi
Marichi+Kala – Kashyapa
Kashyapa+Aditi - Vivasvan
Vivasvan + Shraddha - Vaivaswatha Manu
Vaivaswatha Manu started Ikshavahu dynasty, who established his kingdom in Ayodhya
The Lineage gets from Kings and Princes and hence we do not consider Queen names.

King Name Son Name King Name Son Name King Name Son Name
Vaivaswatha Kukshi Prasanajith Bharatha Sankhana Sudarsana
Kukshi Vikukshi Bharatha Asita Sudarsana Agnivarna
Vikukshi Bana Asita Sagara Agnivarna Seeghraga
Bana Anaranya Sagara Asamaja Seeghraga Maru
Anaranya Prithu Asamaja Ansuman Maru Prasusruka
Prithu Trisanku Ansuman Dileepa Prasusruka Ambarisha
Trisanku Dhundhumara Dileepa Bhagiratha Ambarisha Nahusha
Dhundhumara Yuvanaswa Bhagiratha Kakustha Nahusha Yayathi
Yuvanaswa Mandhata Kakustha Raghu Yayathi Nabhaga
Mandhata Susandhi Raghu Pravardha Nabhaga Aja
Susandhi Prasanajit Pravardha Sankhana Aja Dasaratha

Dasaratha – Rama, Bharatha, Lakshmana, Shatrughana
Rama – Lava, Kusa
King Dasaratha was of age 60,000 years when Sri Rama was born and Sri Rama ruled 11,000 years as mentioned in the Valmiki Ramayan and other puranas.
From here we mention the King names from Left to Right
King Name King Name King Name King Name King Name King Name
Kusa Athithi Nishadha Nala Nabhas Pundarika
Shemadhanavan Devanika Ahinagu Roop Rooroo Paripatra
Balasthalai Chhal Ukya Vajranabha
Khagan Vighruti
Vishvasaha-2 Hiranyanabha Pushya Dhruvasandhi Sudarshana-2 Agnivatna-2
Shingra Maru-2 Prasushrut Susandhi Amarshana Mahasva
King Name King Name King Name King Name King Name King Name
Vishwasahav Prasenjit-1 Takshaka Brihadbala Brihatkshaya Urukriya
Vatsavyuha Prativyoma Bhaanu Divakara Veer Sahadeva Brihadashva-2
Bhanuratha Pratitashva Supratika Marudeva Sunakshatra Pushakara
Antariksha Suvarna Sumitra-1 Bruhadaraaj Barhi Kritanjaya
Ranajaya Sanjaya Shakya Siddhartha Prasenajith Kshudraka
Ranaka Suratha Sumitra

Brihadbala (at Mahabharata time, Abhimanyu killed Brihadbala in Mahabharata War).
From Sri Rama to Brihadbala 36 generation were passed in Ikshvakuvansha. Average lifespan of Ikshvakuvanshi Kings in Dwaparayuga was 24,682 years. Maximum Lifespan of human became 200 years in last 400 years of Dwaparayuga.
Laangul Siddhartha (or Gautama Buddha) (B.C.E. 563-B.C.E. 483)
Prasenajit (Born in B.C.E. 536; when Siddhartha was of age 27 years)

A Brief History of India -
( Haryanka and Shishnag were the first great empire of India)
King Sumitra was the last ruler of Ikshvakuvansh/Suryavansha.
He was defeated and driven out from Ayodhya by Mahapadma Nanda in B.C.E. 362
Nanda dynasty roots were from Ikshavahu dynasty.
Nandas were thrown out by Magadh, during which period the throne was seized by Chandragupta Maurya , who established Mauryan dynasty from 320BCE and during this time Alexander invaded India.
Chandragupta son Bimbisara ascended the throne and his son Ashoka, later established great rule in India. After Ashoka, came Greek and Bactrians invading India.
Then from 1 CE onwards, Mahayana movement started followed by Gupta dynasty which prevailed till 500 CE and after that many kingdoms rose and in 710CE, the great Muslim ruler Muhammed bin Quasim conquered North India, establishing Sultannate invasion in India, who was thrown out by Mongolians. After this many kings fought and many dynasty ruled.

The Khilji dynasty was established by Jalal ud din Firuz Khilji and under Juna Khan (Allaudin Khilji), the Khilji dynasty became prominent and with many invasions, Malik Khafur who was bought as a slave by Allaudin became the monarch, 1300CE.

Rama indeed was historical and lived around 5300BCE.
The path traversed by Rama is predominantly in India and SriLanka.
Rama and his team built a bridge to cross over to Lanka, a man made accretion over a natural formation in the sea, symbolizing Adi Dravida engineering.
Evidence of historical records of usage till 1480 of the bridge, which was disrepair due to a cyclone called Aadham (Adam's) bridge because Sri Lanka’s first Muslim leader came to Sri Lanka from India over this Bridge

Moreso evidence of information inherent in culture, native knowledge of locals, authentic travelogues, historical notes, research works prove the compilation of the result of existence and travelogue of Rama, which indeed cannot be written by a person without knowing the land markings and of related incidents.

It remains a fascinating account of how little we sometimes know about what really does or doesn’t lie out there over the horizon even in the modern world, and how much we blindly trust the maps and charts we have available to us. Who knows what other landmasses on our maps have disappeared or were never even really there at all? These shows that these are not mysteries continued from the past but somewhere lies the truth of the phenomenon that these phantom islands maybe the result of optical illusion, coral reef land, islands which have been submerged by flooding, rising sea levels, tectonic activity, tilting in the pole (pole-shift), Continental drift, Earthquake or some catastrophe. More far-out and less likely ideas are that some islands have been intentionally destroyed for some nefarious end, which the islands have passed through some interdimensional rift or earthbound black hole, or of course the idea that they were cloaked by aliens to be used as some sort of base or even whisked away for inscrutable purposes we cannot fathom.

Since history is littered with numerous such reports of vanished phantom islands of all shapes and sizes from all corners of the globe, it is likely that there is no one universal explanation for these mysterious cases, but rather a mix of many, and it seems that we may never be able to solve some of these enigmas. Many of these islands will remain as lost to our understanding as they are to the world, dropping from our ability to comprehend as surely as they have dropped off of the map. Somewhere out there over the waves the answers we seek lurk, eluding us. One thing that does seem sure is that whether these mysterious vanishing islands are mistakes, illusions, casualties of natural phenomena, or indications of forces at work beyond our current scientific knowledge, they capture the imagination, and show us that the known landscape of our planet is not always as defined or clear as we’d like to think.

One such of the Island vanished and known and presently is Lemuira or the Kumari Kandam.

Lemuria is a hypothetical lost land around Indian and Pacific ocean...Geologist believe there had to be some huge continent that has sunk deep below the oceans ,which had an important civilization. This was stated by Plato in Atlantis story called Lemuria and the Sangam inscriptions state it as Kumari Kandam.

Further from Geographical and Botanical point of view, one finds that the places traversed by Sri Rama are in existence today and moreso the plants and animals as mentioned are still found. It is merely not possible for someone to write out of imagination and merge into a folklore tale for greater credibility. Unless one is true of the topography, geography and ecology of the region, one cannot provide such sharp and precise observation of the time, place and location.

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