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Again - very interesting and I do not dispute any of what you say. I have in fact, just started reading this book which is very relevant.
However long it has taken for the reality of global warning to be accepted, in the end there will not be a statement that it is 100% fact, but however close they get to that, it will be based on objective evidence, not on any hearsay! And I think you will agree with that!

Susan



drrayeye Wrote:
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> Susan,
>
> There is a grain of truth in your claim--but only
> a grain. The hypothetical/deductive method
> involving formal experimental and null hypotheses
> is unique to the sciences--but is rarely used in
> it's pure form. Seen historically, it often comes
> as a culmination of a great deal of foundational
> research which refines simple observations. Even
> then, certain requirements of the design may not
> be met.
>
> A good example is global warming. As early as the
> 18th century, there was speculation that the
> burning of wood, peat, and coal could cause the
> release of gases that could increase global
> temperature, but there weren't enough observations
> over the entire globe over a long enough period of
> time to really formally test that hypothesis. Two
> centuries later, we formed an international group
> called the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate
> Change (IPCC) to carry out a global study
> measuring both temperature and CO2 concentration
> prospectively, and earlier temperature changes
> retrospectively--using data from tree ring samples
> and ice core samples. The retrospective data,
> imperfect as it was, clearly showed temperature
> cycles with a sharp upward trend in recent times.
> Using data from weather observation sites
> onground, buoys at sea, and satellites in space,
> we were finally able to present truly global
> measurements for the first time that verified the
> increases--including the sharp increase in recent
> years. At the same time, studies of CO2
> concentration showed similar increases.
>
> Unfortunately, there was no way to do a controlled
> experiment to test the hypothesis that the
> increases in CO2 caused the increases in
> temperature. Remember, that was the original
> hypothesis. Instead, we correlated the CO2 and
> temperature observations with each other and found
> an association that couldn't be explained by
> chance.
>
> So, it was "kind of" the scientific method you are
> talking about--if we just look at the most recent
> studies. But the approach was by no means the out
> of the box, step by step, process you describe.
> Worse yet, the final association documented fell
> short of the causal findings demanded by "the
> scientific method."
>
> Ray

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Subject Views Written By Posted
Methods 1558 Susan Doris 16-Dec-18 12:35
Re: Methods 196 Eddie Larry 16-Dec-18 15:34
Re: Methods 184 Susan Doris 16-Dec-18 16:39
Re: Methods 199 Eddie Larry 16-Dec-18 18:15
Re: Methods 180 Itatw70s 16-Dec-18 23:59
Re: Methods 196 Susan Doris 17-Dec-18 06:29
Re: Methods 197 Eddie Larry 17-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Methods 182 drrayeye 17-Dec-18 08:08
Re: Methods 183 Susan Doris 17-Dec-18 08:37
Re: Methods 186 greengirl5 17-Dec-18 09:04
Re: Methods 180 Enigcom 17-Dec-18 12:13
An example 186 drrayeye 17-Dec-18 15:55
Re: An example 179 Susan Doris 17-Dec-18 17:20
Re: An example 182 Itatw70s 17-Dec-18 17:57
Re: An example 175 Susan Doris 18-Dec-18 07:59
If we accept academic standards, 184 drrayeye 18-Dec-18 13:28
Re: If we accept academic standards, 181 Susan Doris 18-Dec-18 15:19
Re: If we accept academic standards, 172 Eddie Larry 18-Dec-18 16:31
Re: If we accept academic standards, 186 Enigcom 18-Dec-18 17:17
Re: If we accept academic standards, 180 Susan Doris 18-Dec-18 18:35
Re: If we accept academic standards, 180 Susan Doris 18-Dec-18 18:31
Re: If we accept academic standards, 183 Eddie Larry 18-Dec-18 18:59
Re: If we accept academic standards, 171 Susan Doris 18-Dec-18 19:11
Re: If we accept academic standards, 179 Eddie Larry 18-Dec-18 19:56
Re: If we accept academic standards, 175 Itatw70s 18-Dec-18 21:58
Re: If we accept academic standards, 182 Susan Doris 19-Dec-18 07:12
Bee in the bonnet 184 greengirl5 19-Dec-18 07:45
Re: Bee in the bonnet 185 Susan Doris 19-Dec-18 08:10
Re: If we accept academic standards, 178 Susan Doris 19-Dec-18 06:33
Re: If we accept academic standards, 184 Eddie Larry 19-Dec-18 22:04
Re: If we accept academic standards, 182 Susan Doris 22-Dec-18 20:25
Re: If we accept academic standards, 161 Eddie Larry 22-Dec-18 20:42
Real world example of the scientific method 202 drrayeye 18-Dec-18 19:04
Re: Real world example of the scientific method 183 Susan Doris 18-Dec-18 19:27
Statements! 182 greengirl5 19-Dec-18 07:55
Re: If we accept academic standards, 167 drrayeye 27-Dec-18 09:42
Re: If we accept academic standards, 217 Susan Doris 27-Dec-18 13:32
Re: An example 186 Itatw70s 18-Dec-18 21:38
Re: An example 178 Susan Doris 19-Dec-18 07:16
Re: An example 182 Enigcom 18-Dec-18 17:14
Re: An example 179 Susan Doris 18-Dec-18 18:42
Re: An example 186 Itatw70s 18-Dec-18 22:07
Re: An example 192 Susan Doris 19-Dec-18 07:20
So, try to prove art 176 greengirl5 19-Dec-18 08:00
Re: So, try to prove art 193 Itatw70s 19-Dec-18 12:52
Re: So, try to prove art 166 Susan Doris 22-Dec-18 20:07
Re: So, try to prove art 166 Itatw70s 23-Dec-18 00:18
Re: So, try to prove art 156 Susan Doris 23-Dec-18 06:55
Re: An example 181 Enigcom 22-Dec-18 13:00
Re: An example 183 Susan Doris 22-Dec-18 20:18
Re: An example 181 greengirl5 22-Dec-18 21:15
Re: An example 173 Itatw70s 23-Dec-18 00:32
Re: An example 177 Susan Doris 23-Dec-18 09:33
Re: An example 174 Susan Doris 23-Dec-18 07:00
Communicate.... 158 Itatw70s 23-Dec-18 21:35
Re: An example 172 Enigcom 23-Dec-18 19:24
Re: An example 163 Susan Doris 24-Dec-18 06:27
Happy Christmas everybody, from Australia. 171 greengirl5 24-Dec-18 11:43
a Method for the Holidays 166 drrayeye 24-Dec-18 19:18
Re: a Method for the Holidays 167 Susan Doris 25-Dec-18 06:38
Re: Methods 87 ian 77 11-Jun-19 20:13
Re: Methods 77 Susan Doris 13-Jun-19 05:12
Re: Methods 151 drew 13-Jun-19 07:49


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