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As for methodology in art; it usually is a teacher/student relationship. All arts could be classified as apprenticeships. It is the choices made between teacher and student that clarifies the mental inspiration for any project.
However, back to the OP, unless you can show otherwise, there are no objective methods comparable to the scientific method, which apply to Art, Philosophy or Religion.

As for the example you gave above, I suspect that because the speed of light is fixed it is because the "Domain" in which it operates, the physical universe, makes it suspiciously ordered like an Order of Nature; something controlled as if the stable nature of light is "intentially" placed in our Reality.
Imagine all that if you like, but since zero evidence is available for anything other than that it happened without any mind, purpose, or that it was suspiciously ordered by anything, that is all it is - in your imagination, an imagination in a brain which evolved to be what it is through several billin years of Earth's existence.

Another suspicion I have is about entanglement at far distances as another fixed effect that never veers from it's purpose,
You don't need to have a suspicion about it, you can look to the work already done. No need to imagine it since it seems that scientists have already done that and, with the help of technology designed and made by humans, have some objective evidence about it. They will not be able to announce a Theory yet since it will need more tests, but even when a Theory is established, it will be open to challenge.
Quote though it's behavior is "intentional".
That is anthropomophising - and that's fine, but I think it is far more interesting to see clearly where this is being done and where it is not.

It is my suspicion that Mind is cautious to let the cat out of the bag gradually, not all at once.
That suspicion is not based on any objective or independent evidence.

This means two things:
Maybe in your opinion, but not in mine.

1. Either the universe is playing a game of hide and seek, meaning that the things we discover about physics is gradual yet consistent. These physical "riddles" in nature are exasperating and some are leaving the science for a philosophical explanation. It is now more of an art than any experiment applied so far.
I think you've got that back to front, but it is a bit difficult to follow or to workout why because of the way you have worded it.

2. The so called "intention" of these findings infers a methodology of sorts.
You can infer - I don't know whether it is implied - a methodology if you like, but first you have to find a method to provide evidence for the intention and the *mind* behind it.

"Today you learn This, tomorrow you learn That". It sounds like an apprenticeship of physics intentially ordered by the, as yet, undiscovered "rules" of Nature. Gradually and "methodically" Nature is revealing itself to the earnest seeker of Nature's secrets.
Said 'nature' being a poetic human way of looking at things I think.

And please don't nitpick my choice of words!!
Why not?!! If you do not want your choice of words or views discussed, or even challenged, then put them on a personal blog where you can control all input.

I do have "some" idea of the situation in these particular anomalies as being "Suggestive" of a Higher Order in Nature. Mind, as the bartering entity of any search in this complex universe, will have to be given a percentage of credibility in the pursuit of all physical phenomena.
Since 'mind' is simply a word, a sound formed of characters, coined by humans to enable us to talk about the things our brains do, then to give it a power of its own is extremely unscientific and needs a solid back-up of objective evidence to take it any further.

That is all that is left to explore in the science of experimentation and theory.
I think that is extremely unlikely to be true!

As long as there are humans doing the tests, there will always be a mind-factor involved, throughout the discoveries of matter and time.
Which is why, of course, the scientific method has been developed - in order to eliminate as far as possible bias, and has so far stood up to the test of time.

We humans are the platform upon all inquiries of Nature. We must be included into every equation as the "mover and shaker" of all our discoveries. It is our lot to come to realize that every search includes a mental schematic whereby our awareness is crucially entwined into every New discovery of physical manifestation.
I'm not a platform!!

I only know that is in caps because Synthetic Dave has said 'all caps' before reading each word. Otherwise it sounds the same as if not in caps. We are not here for any reason or purpose, we are here because we are part of an unbroken line of life. Once here, we humans have made our own purposes in order to survive and, if surviving, make the best we can of the life we have.

and we cannot exclude our intimate participation in every test of material phenomena.
We don't 'participate' in tests unless we choose to do so after the idea, the hypothesis, the experiments, etc have been thought of and devised by us.

We humans are the whole structure of our ultimate discoveries of Reality.
How about having a go at putting that in clear, plain English. As it is, it is not comprehensible.
[quote[] I said my peace.[/quote]
And do you think it should not be discussed, or challenged, or disputed?


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Methods 1599 Susan Doris 16-Dec-18 12:35
Re: Methods 222 Eddie Larry 16-Dec-18 15:34
Re: Methods 200 Susan Doris 16-Dec-18 16:39
Re: Methods 228 Eddie Larry 16-Dec-18 18:15
Re: Methods 197 Itatw70s 16-Dec-18 23:59
Re: Methods 210 Susan Doris 17-Dec-18 06:29
Re: Methods 213 Eddie Larry 17-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Methods 199 drrayeye 17-Dec-18 08:08
Re: Methods 199 Susan Doris 17-Dec-18 08:37
Re: Methods 202 greengirl5 17-Dec-18 09:04
Re: Methods 206 Enigcom 17-Dec-18 12:13
An example 198 drrayeye 17-Dec-18 15:55
Re: An example 204 Susan Doris 17-Dec-18 17:20
Re: An example 194 Itatw70s 17-Dec-18 17:57
Re: An example 196 Susan Doris 18-Dec-18 07:59
If we accept academic standards, 201 drrayeye 18-Dec-18 13:28
Re: If we accept academic standards, 208 Susan Doris 18-Dec-18 15:19
Re: If we accept academic standards, 190 Eddie Larry 18-Dec-18 16:31
Re: If we accept academic standards, 201 Enigcom 18-Dec-18 17:17
Re: If we accept academic standards, 212 Susan Doris 18-Dec-18 18:35
Re: If we accept academic standards, 203 Susan Doris 18-Dec-18 18:31
Re: If we accept academic standards, 210 Eddie Larry 18-Dec-18 18:59
Re: If we accept academic standards, 185 Susan Doris 18-Dec-18 19:11
Re: If we accept academic standards, 192 Eddie Larry 18-Dec-18 19:56
Re: If we accept academic standards, 200 Itatw70s 18-Dec-18 21:58
Re: If we accept academic standards, 204 Susan Doris 19-Dec-18 07:12
Bee in the bonnet 199 greengirl5 19-Dec-18 07:45
Re: Bee in the bonnet 209 Susan Doris 19-Dec-18 08:10
Re: If we accept academic standards, 205 Susan Doris 19-Dec-18 06:33
Re: If we accept academic standards, 212 Eddie Larry 19-Dec-18 22:04
Re: If we accept academic standards, 195 Susan Doris 22-Dec-18 20:25
Re: If we accept academic standards, 185 Eddie Larry 22-Dec-18 20:42
Real world example of the scientific method 228 drrayeye 18-Dec-18 19:04
Re: Real world example of the scientific method 211 Susan Doris 18-Dec-18 19:27
Statements! 193 greengirl5 19-Dec-18 07:55
Re: If we accept academic standards, 191 drrayeye 27-Dec-18 09:42
Re: If we accept academic standards, 242 Susan Doris 27-Dec-18 13:32
Re: An example 210 Itatw70s 18-Dec-18 21:38
Re: An example 189 Susan Doris 19-Dec-18 07:16
Re: An example 200 Enigcom 18-Dec-18 17:14
Re: An example 205 Susan Doris 18-Dec-18 18:42
Re: An example 199 Itatw70s 18-Dec-18 22:07
Re: An example 218 Susan Doris 19-Dec-18 07:20
So, try to prove art 195 greengirl5 19-Dec-18 08:00
Re: So, try to prove art 207 Itatw70s 19-Dec-18 12:52
Re: So, try to prove art 191 Susan Doris 22-Dec-18 20:07
Re: So, try to prove art 179 Itatw70s 23-Dec-18 00:18
Re: So, try to prove art 178 Susan Doris 23-Dec-18 06:55
Re: An example 196 Enigcom 22-Dec-18 13:00
Re: An example 196 Susan Doris 22-Dec-18 20:18
Re: An example 195 greengirl5 22-Dec-18 21:15
Re: An example 197 Itatw70s 23-Dec-18 00:32
Re: An example 192 Susan Doris 23-Dec-18 09:33
Re: An example 201 Susan Doris 23-Dec-18 07:00
Communicate.... 170 Itatw70s 23-Dec-18 21:35
Re: An example 198 Enigcom 23-Dec-18 19:24
Re: An example 187 Susan Doris 24-Dec-18 06:27
Happy Christmas everybody, from Australia. 200 greengirl5 24-Dec-18 11:43
a Method for the Holidays 191 drrayeye 24-Dec-18 19:18
Re: a Method for the Holidays 194 Susan Doris 25-Dec-18 06:38
Re: Methods 100 ian 77 11-Jun-19 20:13
Re: Methods 92 Susan Doris 13-Jun-19 05:12
Re: Methods 185 drew 13-Jun-19 07:49

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