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Your misuse of science is often in a form called "scientism."
And this whole post of yours is yet another attempt to depict a person with zero 100% faith beliefs, who notices that you cannot bear the thought of your faith belief being shown up to be entirely subjective with not one scrap of objective evidence to back it up. You put on an air ofwhich comes across clearly, to me, of: 'I am the scientist and therefore I know mor than you do.' But you constantly evade any challenge to your 100% faith belief. The other day you presented your belief in a much clearer way, but you will never admit that it has zero objective evidence, will you?
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Here are two of your statements:
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I think it is important that if a statement is made that something is true, it should be able to be backed up by appropriate and objective evidence.
It is never expected that statements be backed up by evidence unless they are presented as scientific or scientific like statements,
Why is this a misuse of science? I think it is you who is more likely to misuse science by trying to portray your religious beliefs as somehow associated with your work, even though you try to disguise that by saying that you separate the two – religion and science. But you do that by avoiding having a need to present objective evidence for your faith beliefs in your work, I think.
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expressed as the findings of some study. Such statements are relatively rare, since scientists only study a small sliver of phenomena or experiences one might report. You call them
Please specify exactly what you mean by this “them”.
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"statements of fact", and combine them with all other statements. Then, you treat those statements that couldn't be possibly studied in a scientific way with the invalid evidence requirements of scientific studies.
I do not accept that sweeping generalisation unless you can provide specific examples of what you mean.
Also, That is incorrect. I am fully aware, as I wonder if you indeed are, that it is not possible to study any hypothesis suggesting that anything totally lacking in observability can be studied using the scientific method.
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That's scientism.
Find all the definitions of the word and amongst them find one which did not originate from a faith believer attempting to deflect science in order to retain their confirmation bias that there is actually an existing something to study in their beliefs..
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Children are not allowed, or supposed to be allowed, to read forums like this, but if they do, I think the more of future generations who can distinguish between fact and fiction, and thus are able to really realise the amazing evolved reality and huge potential of our human brains, then the better that will be.
GHMB has specifically required that adult themes only be discussed in the Mature board so that young people be able to read the other GHMB forums--and they do. When they are confronted with your scientistic demans for evidence, and your claims about the "amazing evolved reality and huge potential of our human brains," it is more likely that they go away confused about science rather than swayed by your evangelistic atheism.
What are ‘scientistic demans’? Define ‘scientistic’ when checking out origins of ‘scientism’.
And you think they will not be even more confused by your non-scientific acceptance of a faith belief?

You need to come up with a fact (not 100% fact, but one with a teeny-tiny gap allowed for the possibility of some god one day appearing and being provable) if if you wish your accusations about me to have the strength you think they have. Unfortunately the bottom line is that your emperor has no clothes!

And just another thought: how can you possibly think it is not the best thing for future generations to understand the infinite extent, capabilities and wonder of the physical human brain? They would then understand, one hopes, the history of belief and the aspects of the brain's unlimited imagination which have thought of and then continuously inculcated and reinforced that belief, in spite of total lack of objective evidence for it.

Susan



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 16-Nov-18 06:47 by Susan Doris.

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Negative proof theory 947 greengirl5 12-Nov-18 20:38
Re: Negative proof theory 156 Jock 12-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Negative proof theory 147 Itatw70s 12-Nov-18 21:04
Re: Negative proof theory 144 Jock 13-Nov-18 00:00
Re: Negative proof theory 148 Enigcom 12-Nov-18 22:39
Re: Negative proof theory 141 Jock 13-Nov-18 00:01
Re: Negative proof theory 146 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 00:22
Re: Negative proof theory 138 Jock 13-Nov-18 01:55
Re: Negative proof theory 136 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:27
Re: Negative proof theory 139 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:50
Re: Negative proof theory 135 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 02:00
Half believing 135 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 01:49
I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 133 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 01:56
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 139 Jock 13-Nov-18 06:43
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 140 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 08:53
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 133 Jock 14-Nov-18 00:10
Surprise! 133 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 00:23
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 134 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:33
Re: Half believing 142 Jock 13-Nov-18 01:57
Re: Half believing 140 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 02:05
Re: Half believing 135 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:40
Re: Half believing 134 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:00
Re: Negative proof theory 140 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:34
Believe it or not 141 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:13
Re: Believe it or not 140 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:53
The parallel in science 133 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 01:13
Re: The parallel in science 133 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:09
Waiting? 127 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 06:12
Re: Waiting? 126 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 06:34
Re: Waiting? 127 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 12:02
Sticking to science 126 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 07:00
Re: Sticking to science 133 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 07:52
Re: Sticking to science 133 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 12:05
Re: The parallel in science 130 Jock 15-Nov-18 00:44
Re: The parallel in science 131 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 01:50
Null hypothesis 130 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 02:56
Ah, nothing! 125 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:23
Re: Null hypothesis 129 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 15:25
Re: Null hypothesis 123 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 18:02
Re: Negative proof theory 224 Poster Boy 18-Nov-18 17:49
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 134 Eddie Larry 13-Nov-18 23:58
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 135 Jock 14-Nov-18 00:07
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 135 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 00:29
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 135 Jock 14-Nov-18 05:20
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 136 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 16:33
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 131 Jock 15-Nov-18 01:52
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 132 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 03:23
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 129 Jock 15-Nov-18 05:12
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 125 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 15:00
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 139 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 00:30
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 137 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 00:43
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 135 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 01:57
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 139 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 01:58
WOW! 132 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 06:30
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 136 Jock 14-Nov-18 05:22
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 133 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 16:40
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 127 Jock 15-Nov-18 00:21
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 126 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 02:14
Karl Popper 134 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Karl Popper 128 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 02:19
Answering myself 126 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:14
Re: Answering myself 133 Jock 15-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Answering myself 134 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:27
Re: Answering myself 128 Jock 15-Nov-18 05:14
Re: Answering myself 132 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 06:57
Re: Answering myself 151 jazzmumbles 15-Nov-18 16:48
Re: Answering myself 132 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 21:22
Re: Negative proof theory 141 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 12:45
Scientific proof 129 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 15:02
Re: Scientific proof 131 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 15:53
you're missing the point 133 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 19:08
Re: you're missing the point 127 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:58
Re: you're missing the point 125 Jock 14-Nov-18 21:58
Re: you're missing the point 131 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 22:22
Re: you're missing the point 135 Jock 14-Nov-18 22:36
Re: you're missing the point 135 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 23:06
Re: Scientific proof 133 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Scientific proof 127 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:08
Re: Scientific proof 130 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:00
Re: Scientific proof 133 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:42
Re: Negative proof theory 131 Enigcom 14-Nov-18 17:26
Re: Negative proof theory 139 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Negative proof theory 133 Enigcom 14-Nov-18 18:11
Re: Negative proof theory 134 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 21:15
Re: Negative proof theory 128 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Negative proof theory 130 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:08
Re: Negative proof theory 136 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 07:49
Re: Negative proof theory 133 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 09:07
Re: Negative proof theory 132 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 13:19
scientism and young minds 132 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 19:40
Re: scientism and young minds 131 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 06:44
From the rabbit hole again 121 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 07:49
Re: From the rabbit hole again 128 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 08:22
Re: From the rabbit hole again 128 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 12:33
Re: From the rabbit hole again 131 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 13:36
In a nutshell 128 greengirl5 16-Nov-18 21:23
Re: In a nutshell 132 Susan Doris 17-Nov-18 05:58
Re: In a nutshell 125 greengirl5 17-Nov-18 21:29
Re: In a nutshell 128 Susan Doris 18-Nov-18 05:43
Re: In a nutshell 129 greengirl5 18-Nov-18 11:14
Corrected "demans" to "demands" 123 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 07:36
Glad to be free! 124 greengirl5 16-Nov-18 11:52
God fixation 135 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:37
Re: God fixation 132 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:36
Re: God fixation 144 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:13
Re: God fixation 142 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 07:53


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