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Your misuse of science is often in a form called "scientism."
And this whole post of yours is yet another attempt to depict a person with zero 100% faith beliefs, who notices that you cannot bear the thought of your faith belief being shown up to be entirely subjective with not one scrap of objective evidence to back it up. You put on an air ofwhich comes across clearly, to me, of: 'I am the scientist and therefore I know mor than you do.' But you constantly evade any challenge to your 100% faith belief. The other day you presented your belief in a much clearer way, but you will never admit that it has zero objective evidence, will you?

Here are two of your statements:

I think it is important that if a statement is made that something is true, it should be able to be backed up by appropriate and objective evidence.
It is never expected that statements be backed up by evidence unless they are presented as scientific or scientific like statements,
Why is this a misuse of science? I think it is you who is more likely to misuse science by trying to portray your religious beliefs as somehow associated with your work, even though you try to disguise that by saying that you separate the two – religion and science. But you do that by avoiding having a need to present objective evidence for your faith beliefs in your work, I think.

expressed as the findings of some study. Such statements are relatively rare, since scientists only study a small sliver of phenomena or experiences one might report. You call them
Please specify exactly what you mean by this “them”.

"statements of fact", and combine them with all other statements. Then, you treat those statements that couldn't be possibly studied in a scientific way with the invalid evidence requirements of scientific studies.
I do not accept that sweeping generalisation unless you can provide specific examples of what you mean.
Also, That is incorrect. I am fully aware, as I wonder if you indeed are, that it is not possible to study any hypothesis suggesting that anything totally lacking in observability can be studied using the scientific method.

That's scientism.
Find all the definitions of the word and amongst them find one which did not originate from a faith believer attempting to deflect science in order to retain their confirmation bias that there is actually an existing something to study in their beliefs..


Children are not allowed, or supposed to be allowed, to read forums like this, but if they do, I think the more of future generations who can distinguish between fact and fiction, and thus are able to really realise the amazing evolved reality and huge potential of our human brains, then the better that will be.
GHMB has specifically required that adult themes only be discussed in the Mature board so that young people be able to read the other GHMB forums--and they do. When they are confronted with your scientistic demans for evidence, and your claims about the "amazing evolved reality and huge potential of our human brains," it is more likely that they go away confused about science rather than swayed by your evangelistic atheism.
What are ‘scientistic demans’? Define ‘scientistic’ when checking out origins of ‘scientism’.
And you think they will not be even more confused by your non-scientific acceptance of a faith belief?

You need to come up with a fact (not 100% fact, but one with a teeny-tiny gap allowed for the possibility of some god one day appearing and being provable) if if you wish your accusations about me to have the strength you think they have. Unfortunately the bottom line is that your emperor has no clothes!

And just another thought: how can you possibly think it is not the best thing for future generations to understand the infinite extent, capabilities and wonder of the physical human brain? They would then understand, one hopes, the history of belief and the aspects of the brain's unlimited imagination which have thought of and then continuously inculcated and reinforced that belief, in spite of total lack of objective evidence for it.


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 16-Nov-18 06:47 by Susan Doris.

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Negative proof theory 1055 greengirl5 12-Nov-18 20:38
Re: Negative proof theory 205 Jock 12-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Negative proof theory 192 Itatw70s 12-Nov-18 21:04
Re: Negative proof theory 178 Jock 13-Nov-18 00:00
Re: Negative proof theory 181 Enigcom 12-Nov-18 22:39
Re: Negative proof theory 179 Jock 13-Nov-18 00:01
Re: Negative proof theory 188 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 00:22
Re: Negative proof theory 165 Jock 13-Nov-18 01:55
Re: Negative proof theory 166 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:27
Re: Negative proof theory 175 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:50
Re: Negative proof theory 172 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 02:00
Half believing 175 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 01:49
I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 190 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 01:56
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 184 Jock 13-Nov-18 06:43
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 187 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 08:53
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 174 Jock 14-Nov-18 00:10
Surprise! 176 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 00:23
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 176 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:33
Re: Half believing 170 Jock 13-Nov-18 01:57
Re: Half believing 189 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 02:05
Re: Half believing 174 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:40
Re: Half believing 181 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:00
Re: Negative proof theory 191 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:34
Believe it or not 178 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:13
Re: Believe it or not 188 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:53
The parallel in science 178 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 01:13
Re: The parallel in science 170 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:09
Waiting? 177 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 06:12
Re: Waiting? 163 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 06:34
Re: Waiting? 177 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 12:02
Sticking to science 174 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 07:00
Re: Sticking to science 178 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 07:52
Re: Sticking to science 164 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 12:05
Re: The parallel in science 173 Jock 15-Nov-18 00:44
Re: The parallel in science 172 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 01:50
Null hypothesis 177 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 02:56
Ah, nothing! 170 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:23
Re: Null hypothesis 174 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 15:25
Re: Null hypothesis 175 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 18:02
Re: Negative proof theory 300 Poster Boy 18-Nov-18 17:49
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 192 Eddie Larry 13-Nov-18 23:58
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 173 Jock 14-Nov-18 00:07
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 178 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 00:29
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 185 Jock 14-Nov-18 05:20
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 176 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 16:33
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 185 Jock 15-Nov-18 01:52
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 164 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 03:23
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 176 Jock 15-Nov-18 05:12
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 156 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 15:00
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 173 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 00:30
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 166 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 00:43
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 179 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 01:57
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 167 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 01:58
WOW! 166 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 06:30
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 180 Jock 14-Nov-18 05:22
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 162 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 16:40
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 176 Jock 15-Nov-18 00:21
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 170 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 02:14
Karl Popper 179 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Karl Popper 166 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 02:19
Answering myself 172 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:14
Re: Answering myself 186 Jock 15-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Answering myself 178 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:27
Re: Answering myself 154 Jock 15-Nov-18 05:14
Re: Answering myself 162 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 06:57
Re: Answering myself 210 jazzmumbles 15-Nov-18 16:48
Re: Answering myself 185 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 21:22
Re: Negative proof theory 184 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 12:45
Scientific proof 162 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 15:02
Re: Scientific proof 177 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 15:53
you're missing the point 185 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 19:08
Re: you're missing the point 174 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:58
Re: you're missing the point 157 Jock 14-Nov-18 21:58
Re: you're missing the point 177 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 22:22
Re: you're missing the point 187 Jock 14-Nov-18 22:36
Re: you're missing the point 179 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 23:06
Re: Scientific proof 164 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Scientific proof 178 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:08
Re: Scientific proof 162 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:00
Re: Scientific proof 183 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:42
Re: Negative proof theory 173 Enigcom 14-Nov-18 17:26
Re: Negative proof theory 175 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Negative proof theory 170 Enigcom 14-Nov-18 18:11
Re: Negative proof theory 183 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 21:15
Re: Negative proof theory 168 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Negative proof theory 175 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:08
Re: Negative proof theory 164 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 07:49
Re: Negative proof theory 179 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 09:07
Re: Negative proof theory 176 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 13:19
scientism and young minds 179 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 19:40
Re: scientism and young minds 182 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 06:44
From the rabbit hole again 168 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 07:49
Re: From the rabbit hole again 164 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 08:22
Re: From the rabbit hole again 170 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 12:33
Re: From the rabbit hole again 166 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 13:36
In a nutshell 177 greengirl5 16-Nov-18 21:23
Re: In a nutshell 164 Susan Doris 17-Nov-18 05:58
Re: In a nutshell 160 greengirl5 17-Nov-18 21:29
Re: In a nutshell 178 Susan Doris 18-Nov-18 05:43
Re: In a nutshell 170 greengirl5 18-Nov-18 11:14
Corrected "demans" to "demands" 169 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 07:36
Glad to be free! 173 greengirl5 16-Nov-18 11:52
God fixation 179 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:37
Re: God fixation 162 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:36
Re: God fixation 194 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:13
Re: God fixation 182 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 07:53

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