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Your misuse of science is often in a form called "scientism."
And this whole post of yours is yet another attempt to depict a person with zero 100% faith beliefs, who notices that you cannot bear the thought of your faith belief being shown up to be entirely subjective with not one scrap of objective evidence to back it up. You put on an air ofwhich comes across clearly, to me, of: 'I am the scientist and therefore I know mor than you do.' But you constantly evade any challenge to your 100% faith belief. The other day you presented your belief in a much clearer way, but you will never admit that it has zero objective evidence, will you?
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Here are two of your statements:
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I think it is important that if a statement is made that something is true, it should be able to be backed up by appropriate and objective evidence.
It is never expected that statements be backed up by evidence unless they are presented as scientific or scientific like statements,
Why is this a misuse of science? I think it is you who is more likely to misuse science by trying to portray your religious beliefs as somehow associated with your work, even though you try to disguise that by saying that you separate the two – religion and science. But you do that by avoiding having a need to present objective evidence for your faith beliefs in your work, I think.
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expressed as the findings of some study. Such statements are relatively rare, since scientists only study a small sliver of phenomena or experiences one might report. You call them
Please specify exactly what you mean by this “them”.
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"statements of fact", and combine them with all other statements. Then, you treat those statements that couldn't be possibly studied in a scientific way with the invalid evidence requirements of scientific studies.
I do not accept that sweeping generalisation unless you can provide specific examples of what you mean.
Also, That is incorrect. I am fully aware, as I wonder if you indeed are, that it is not possible to study any hypothesis suggesting that anything totally lacking in observability can be studied using the scientific method.
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That's scientism.
Find all the definitions of the word and amongst them find one which did not originate from a faith believer attempting to deflect science in order to retain their confirmation bias that there is actually an existing something to study in their beliefs..
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Children are not allowed, or supposed to be allowed, to read forums like this, but if they do, I think the more of future generations who can distinguish between fact and fiction, and thus are able to really realise the amazing evolved reality and huge potential of our human brains, then the better that will be.
GHMB has specifically required that adult themes only be discussed in the Mature board so that young people be able to read the other GHMB forums--and they do. When they are confronted with your scientistic demans for evidence, and your claims about the "amazing evolved reality and huge potential of our human brains," it is more likely that they go away confused about science rather than swayed by your evangelistic atheism.
What are ‘scientistic demans’? Define ‘scientistic’ when checking out origins of ‘scientism’.
And you think they will not be even more confused by your non-scientific acceptance of a faith belief?

You need to come up with a fact (not 100% fact, but one with a teeny-tiny gap allowed for the possibility of some god one day appearing and being provable) if if you wish your accusations about me to have the strength you think they have. Unfortunately the bottom line is that your emperor has no clothes!

And just another thought: how can you possibly think it is not the best thing for future generations to understand the infinite extent, capabilities and wonder of the physical human brain? They would then understand, one hopes, the history of belief and the aspects of the brain's unlimited imagination which have thought of and then continuously inculcated and reinforced that belief, in spite of total lack of objective evidence for it.

Susan



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 16-Nov-18 06:47 by Susan Doris.

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Negative proof theory 993 greengirl5 12-Nov-18 20:38
Re: Negative proof theory 171 Jock 12-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Negative proof theory 162 Itatw70s 12-Nov-18 21:04
Re: Negative proof theory 158 Jock 13-Nov-18 00:00
Re: Negative proof theory 161 Enigcom 12-Nov-18 22:39
Re: Negative proof theory 156 Jock 13-Nov-18 00:01
Re: Negative proof theory 159 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 00:22
Re: Negative proof theory 147 Jock 13-Nov-18 01:55
Re: Negative proof theory 148 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:27
Re: Negative proof theory 146 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:50
Re: Negative proof theory 142 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 02:00
Half believing 146 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 01:49
I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 150 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 01:56
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 152 Jock 13-Nov-18 06:43
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 158 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 08:53
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 146 Jock 14-Nov-18 00:10
Surprise! 145 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 00:23
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 148 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:33
Re: Half believing 152 Jock 13-Nov-18 01:57
Re: Half believing 157 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 02:05
Re: Half believing 146 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:40
Re: Half believing 147 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:00
Re: Negative proof theory 156 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:34
Believe it or not 152 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:13
Re: Believe it or not 153 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:53
The parallel in science 147 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 01:13
Re: The parallel in science 149 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:09
Waiting? 139 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 06:12
Re: Waiting? 142 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 06:34
Re: Waiting? 144 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 12:02
Sticking to science 141 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 07:00
Re: Sticking to science 146 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 07:52
Re: Sticking to science 143 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 12:05
Re: The parallel in science 142 Jock 15-Nov-18 00:44
Re: The parallel in science 142 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 01:50
Null hypothesis 141 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 02:56
Ah, nothing! 138 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:23
Re: Null hypothesis 143 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 15:25
Re: Null hypothesis 135 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 18:02
Re: Negative proof theory 258 Poster Boy 18-Nov-18 17:49
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 153 Eddie Larry 13-Nov-18 23:58
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 152 Jock 14-Nov-18 00:07
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 148 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 00:29
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 149 Jock 14-Nov-18 05:20
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 146 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 16:33
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 148 Jock 15-Nov-18 01:52
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 144 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 03:23
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 142 Jock 15-Nov-18 05:12
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 139 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 15:00
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 151 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 00:30
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 148 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 00:43
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 146 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 01:57
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 148 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 01:58
WOW! 148 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 06:30
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 148 Jock 14-Nov-18 05:22
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 144 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 16:40
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 139 Jock 15-Nov-18 00:21
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 139 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 02:14
Karl Popper 150 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Karl Popper 138 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 02:19
Answering myself 142 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:14
Re: Answering myself 149 Jock 15-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Answering myself 147 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:27
Re: Answering myself 137 Jock 15-Nov-18 05:14
Re: Answering myself 143 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 06:57
Re: Answering myself 171 jazzmumbles 15-Nov-18 16:48
Re: Answering myself 152 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 21:22
Re: Negative proof theory 151 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 12:45
Scientific proof 144 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 15:02
Re: Scientific proof 145 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 15:53
you're missing the point 150 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 19:08
Re: you're missing the point 138 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:58
Re: you're missing the point 137 Jock 14-Nov-18 21:58
Re: you're missing the point 144 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 22:22
Re: you're missing the point 151 Jock 14-Nov-18 22:36
Re: you're missing the point 148 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 23:06
Re: Scientific proof 144 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Scientific proof 143 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:08
Re: Scientific proof 143 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:00
Re: Scientific proof 151 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:42
Re: Negative proof theory 147 Enigcom 14-Nov-18 17:26
Re: Negative proof theory 147 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Negative proof theory 143 Enigcom 14-Nov-18 18:11
Re: Negative proof theory 153 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 21:15
Re: Negative proof theory 140 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Negative proof theory 146 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:08
Re: Negative proof theory 146 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 07:49
Re: Negative proof theory 147 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 09:07
Re: Negative proof theory 145 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 13:19
scientism and young minds 146 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 19:40
Re: scientism and young minds 145 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 06:44
From the rabbit hole again 140 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 07:49
Re: From the rabbit hole again 137 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 08:22
Re: From the rabbit hole again 142 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 12:33
Re: From the rabbit hole again 148 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 13:36
In a nutshell 143 greengirl5 16-Nov-18 21:23
Re: In a nutshell 147 Susan Doris 17-Nov-18 05:58
Re: In a nutshell 139 greengirl5 17-Nov-18 21:29
Re: In a nutshell 147 Susan Doris 18-Nov-18 05:43
Re: In a nutshell 138 greengirl5 18-Nov-18 11:14
Corrected "demans" to "demands" 139 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 07:36
Glad to be free! 139 greengirl5 16-Nov-18 11:52
God fixation 151 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:37
Re: God fixation 143 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:36
Re: God fixation 159 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:13
Re: God fixation 157 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 07:53


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