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Your misuse of science is often in a form called "scientism."
And this whole post of yours is yet another attempt to depict a person with zero 100% faith beliefs, who notices that you cannot bear the thought of your faith belief being shown up to be entirely subjective with not one scrap of objective evidence to back it up. You put on an air ofwhich comes across clearly, to me, of: 'I am the scientist and therefore I know mor than you do.' But you constantly evade any challenge to your 100% faith belief. The other day you presented your belief in a much clearer way, but you will never admit that it has zero objective evidence, will you?
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Here are two of your statements:
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I think it is important that if a statement is made that something is true, it should be able to be backed up by appropriate and objective evidence.
It is never expected that statements be backed up by evidence unless they are presented as scientific or scientific like statements,
Why is this a misuse of science? I think it is you who is more likely to misuse science by trying to portray your religious beliefs as somehow associated with your work, even though you try to disguise that by saying that you separate the two – religion and science. But you do that by avoiding having a need to present objective evidence for your faith beliefs in your work, I think.
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expressed as the findings of some study. Such statements are relatively rare, since scientists only study a small sliver of phenomena or experiences one might report. You call them
Please specify exactly what you mean by this “them”.
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"statements of fact", and combine them with all other statements. Then, you treat those statements that couldn't be possibly studied in a scientific way with the invalid evidence requirements of scientific studies.
I do not accept that sweeping generalisation unless you can provide specific examples of what you mean.
Also, That is incorrect. I am fully aware, as I wonder if you indeed are, that it is not possible to study any hypothesis suggesting that anything totally lacking in observability can be studied using the scientific method.
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That's scientism.
Find all the definitions of the word and amongst them find one which did not originate from a faith believer attempting to deflect science in order to retain their confirmation bias that there is actually an existing something to study in their beliefs..
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Children are not allowed, or supposed to be allowed, to read forums like this, but if they do, I think the more of future generations who can distinguish between fact and fiction, and thus are able to really realise the amazing evolved reality and huge potential of our human brains, then the better that will be.
GHMB has specifically required that adult themes only be discussed in the Mature board so that young people be able to read the other GHMB forums--and they do. When they are confronted with your scientistic demans for evidence, and your claims about the "amazing evolved reality and huge potential of our human brains," it is more likely that they go away confused about science rather than swayed by your evangelistic atheism.
What are ‘scientistic demans’? Define ‘scientistic’ when checking out origins of ‘scientism’.
And you think they will not be even more confused by your non-scientific acceptance of a faith belief?

You need to come up with a fact (not 100% fact, but one with a teeny-tiny gap allowed for the possibility of some god one day appearing and being provable) if if you wish your accusations about me to have the strength you think they have. Unfortunately the bottom line is that your emperor has no clothes!

And just another thought: how can you possibly think it is not the best thing for future generations to understand the infinite extent, capabilities and wonder of the physical human brain? They would then understand, one hopes, the history of belief and the aspects of the brain's unlimited imagination which have thought of and then continuously inculcated and reinforced that belief, in spite of total lack of objective evidence for it.

Susan



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 16-Nov-18 06:47 by Susan Doris.

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Negative proof theory 920 greengirl5 12-Nov-18 20:38
Re: Negative proof theory 146 Jock 12-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Negative proof theory 137 Itatw70s 12-Nov-18 21:04
Re: Negative proof theory 132 Jock 13-Nov-18 00:00
Re: Negative proof theory 135 Enigcom 12-Nov-18 22:39
Re: Negative proof theory 129 Jock 13-Nov-18 00:01
Re: Negative proof theory 136 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 00:22
Re: Negative proof theory 129 Jock 13-Nov-18 01:55
Re: Negative proof theory 125 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:27
Re: Negative proof theory 129 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:50
Re: Negative proof theory 124 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 02:00
Half believing 124 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 01:49
I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 120 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 01:56
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 128 Jock 13-Nov-18 06:43
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 131 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 08:53
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 123 Jock 14-Nov-18 00:10
Surprise! 123 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 00:23
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 125 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:33
Re: Half believing 131 Jock 13-Nov-18 01:57
Re: Half believing 129 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 02:05
Re: Half believing 124 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:40
Re: Half believing 124 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:00
Re: Negative proof theory 130 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:34
Believe it or not 130 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:13
Re: Believe it or not 130 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:53
The parallel in science 123 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 01:13
Re: The parallel in science 125 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:09
Waiting? 116 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 06:12
Re: Waiting? 116 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 06:34
Re: Waiting? 119 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 12:02
Sticking to science 117 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 07:00
Re: Sticking to science 124 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 07:52
Re: Sticking to science 123 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 12:05
Re: The parallel in science 121 Jock 15-Nov-18 00:44
Re: The parallel in science 122 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 01:50
Null hypothesis 122 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 02:56
Ah, nothing! 117 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:23
Re: Null hypothesis 120 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 15:25
Re: Null hypothesis 112 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 18:02
Re: Negative proof theory 208 Poster Boy 18-Nov-18 17:49
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 125 Eddie Larry 13-Nov-18 23:58
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 126 Jock 14-Nov-18 00:07
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 125 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 00:29
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 124 Jock 14-Nov-18 05:20
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 125 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 16:33
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 120 Jock 15-Nov-18 01:52
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 121 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 03:23
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 119 Jock 15-Nov-18 05:12
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 117 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 15:00
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 129 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 00:30
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 127 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 00:43
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 126 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 01:57
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 127 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 01:58
WOW! 122 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 06:30
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 126 Jock 14-Nov-18 05:22
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 124 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 16:40
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 119 Jock 15-Nov-18 00:21
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 116 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 02:14
Karl Popper 125 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Karl Popper 120 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 02:19
Answering myself 117 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:14
Re: Answering myself 124 Jock 15-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Answering myself 123 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:27
Re: Answering myself 117 Jock 15-Nov-18 05:14
Re: Answering myself 120 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 06:57
Re: Answering myself 138 jazzmumbles 15-Nov-18 16:48
Re: Answering myself 122 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 21:22
Re: Negative proof theory 131 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 12:45
Scientific proof 118 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 15:02
Re: Scientific proof 123 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 15:53
you're missing the point 123 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 19:08
Re: you're missing the point 120 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:58
Re: you're missing the point 116 Jock 14-Nov-18 21:58
Re: you're missing the point 123 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 22:22
Re: you're missing the point 125 Jock 14-Nov-18 22:36
Re: you're missing the point 124 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 23:06
Re: Scientific proof 125 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Scientific proof 116 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:08
Re: Scientific proof 122 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:00
Re: Scientific proof 125 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:42
Re: Negative proof theory 124 Enigcom 14-Nov-18 17:26
Re: Negative proof theory 131 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Negative proof theory 124 Enigcom 14-Nov-18 18:11
Re: Negative proof theory 125 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 21:15
Re: Negative proof theory 118 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Negative proof theory 123 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:08
Re: Negative proof theory 126 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 07:49
Re: Negative proof theory 125 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 09:07
Re: Negative proof theory 122 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 13:19
scientism and young minds 122 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 19:40
Re: scientism and young minds 121 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 06:44
From the rabbit hole again 112 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 07:49
Re: From the rabbit hole again 118 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 08:22
Re: From the rabbit hole again 118 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 12:33
Re: From the rabbit hole again 121 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 13:36
In a nutshell 117 greengirl5 16-Nov-18 21:23
Re: In a nutshell 121 Susan Doris 17-Nov-18 05:58
Re: In a nutshell 116 greengirl5 17-Nov-18 21:29
Re: In a nutshell 119 Susan Doris 18-Nov-18 05:43
Re: In a nutshell 118 greengirl5 18-Nov-18 11:14
Corrected "demans" to "demands" 114 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 07:36
Glad to be free! 116 greengirl5 16-Nov-18 11:52
God fixation 126 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:37
Re: God fixation 122 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:36
Re: God fixation 135 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:13
Re: God fixation 134 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 07:53


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