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Your misuse of science is often in a form called "scientism."
And this whole post of yours is yet another attempt to depict a person with zero 100% faith beliefs, who notices that you cannot bear the thought of your faith belief being shown up to be entirely subjective with not one scrap of objective evidence to back it up. You put on an air ofwhich comes across clearly, to me, of: 'I am the scientist and therefore I know mor than you do.' But you constantly evade any challenge to your 100% faith belief. The other day you presented your belief in a much clearer way, but you will never admit that it has zero objective evidence, will you?

Here are two of your statements:

I think it is important that if a statement is made that something is true, it should be able to be backed up by appropriate and objective evidence.
It is never expected that statements be backed up by evidence unless they are presented as scientific or scientific like statements,
Why is this a misuse of science? I think it is you who is more likely to misuse science by trying to portray your religious beliefs as somehow associated with your work, even though you try to disguise that by saying that you separate the two – religion and science. But you do that by avoiding having a need to present objective evidence for your faith beliefs in your work, I think.

expressed as the findings of some study. Such statements are relatively rare, since scientists only study a small sliver of phenomena or experiences one might report. You call them
Please specify exactly what you mean by this “them”.

"statements of fact", and combine them with all other statements. Then, you treat those statements that couldn't be possibly studied in a scientific way with the invalid evidence requirements of scientific studies.
I do not accept that sweeping generalisation unless you can provide specific examples of what you mean.
Also, That is incorrect. I am fully aware, as I wonder if you indeed are, that it is not possible to study any hypothesis suggesting that anything totally lacking in observability can be studied using the scientific method.

That's scientism.
Find all the definitions of the word and amongst them find one which did not originate from a faith believer attempting to deflect science in order to retain their confirmation bias that there is actually an existing something to study in their beliefs..


Children are not allowed, or supposed to be allowed, to read forums like this, but if they do, I think the more of future generations who can distinguish between fact and fiction, and thus are able to really realise the amazing evolved reality and huge potential of our human brains, then the better that will be.
GHMB has specifically required that adult themes only be discussed in the Mature board so that young people be able to read the other GHMB forums--and they do. When they are confronted with your scientistic demans for evidence, and your claims about the "amazing evolved reality and huge potential of our human brains," it is more likely that they go away confused about science rather than swayed by your evangelistic atheism.
What are ‘scientistic demans’? Define ‘scientistic’ when checking out origins of ‘scientism’.
And you think they will not be even more confused by your non-scientific acceptance of a faith belief?

You need to come up with a fact (not 100% fact, but one with a teeny-tiny gap allowed for the possibility of some god one day appearing and being provable) if if you wish your accusations about me to have the strength you think they have. Unfortunately the bottom line is that your emperor has no clothes!

And just another thought: how can you possibly think it is not the best thing for future generations to understand the infinite extent, capabilities and wonder of the physical human brain? They would then understand, one hopes, the history of belief and the aspects of the brain's unlimited imagination which have thought of and then continuously inculcated and reinforced that belief, in spite of total lack of objective evidence for it.


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 16-Nov-18 06:47 by Susan Doris.

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Negative proof theory 1069 greengirl5 12-Nov-18 20:38
Re: Negative proof theory 212 Jock 12-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Negative proof theory 196 Itatw70s 12-Nov-18 21:04
Re: Negative proof theory 184 Jock 13-Nov-18 00:00
Re: Negative proof theory 187 Enigcom 12-Nov-18 22:39
Re: Negative proof theory 187 Jock 13-Nov-18 00:01
Re: Negative proof theory 195 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 00:22
Re: Negative proof theory 173 Jock 13-Nov-18 01:55
Re: Negative proof theory 174 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:27
Re: Negative proof theory 181 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:50
Re: Negative proof theory 177 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 02:00
Half believing 179 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 01:49
I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 196 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 01:56
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 189 Jock 13-Nov-18 06:43
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 192 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 08:53
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 181 Jock 14-Nov-18 00:10
Surprise! 185 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 00:23
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 182 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:33
Re: Half believing 176 Jock 13-Nov-18 01:57
Re: Half believing 193 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 02:05
Re: Half believing 181 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:40
Re: Half believing 186 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:00
Re: Negative proof theory 196 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:34
Believe it or not 192 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:13
Re: Believe it or not 195 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:53
The parallel in science 182 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 01:13
Re: The parallel in science 175 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:09
Waiting? 183 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 06:12
Re: Waiting? 172 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 06:34
Re: Waiting? 186 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 12:02
Sticking to science 179 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 07:00
Re: Sticking to science 183 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 07:52
Re: Sticking to science 169 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 12:05
Re: The parallel in science 179 Jock 15-Nov-18 00:44
Re: The parallel in science 177 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 01:50
Null hypothesis 181 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 02:56
Ah, nothing! 175 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:23
Re: Null hypothesis 178 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 15:25
Re: Null hypothesis 179 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 18:02
Re: Negative proof theory 308 PB Bytes 18-Nov-18 17:49
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 197 Eddie Larry 13-Nov-18 23:58
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 178 Jock 14-Nov-18 00:07
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 185 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 00:29
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 191 Jock 14-Nov-18 05:20
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 183 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 16:33
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 194 Jock 15-Nov-18 01:52
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 170 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 03:23
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 182 Jock 15-Nov-18 05:12
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 161 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 15:00
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 178 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 00:30
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 175 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 00:43
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 185 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 01:57
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 172 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 01:58
WOW! 174 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 06:30
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 188 Jock 14-Nov-18 05:22
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 168 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 16:40
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 183 Jock 15-Nov-18 00:21
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 175 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 02:14
Karl Popper 186 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Karl Popper 171 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 02:19
Answering myself 179 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:14
Re: Answering myself 191 Jock 15-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Answering myself 184 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:27
Re: Answering myself 161 Jock 15-Nov-18 05:14
Re: Answering myself 168 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 06:57
Re: Answering myself 216 jazzmumbles 15-Nov-18 16:48
Re: Answering myself 190 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 21:22
Re: Negative proof theory 189 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 12:45
Scientific proof 168 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 15:02
Re: Scientific proof 182 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 15:53
you're missing the point 191 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 19:08
Re: you're missing the point 178 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:58
Re: you're missing the point 163 Jock 14-Nov-18 21:58
Re: you're missing the point 183 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 22:22
Re: you're missing the point 194 Jock 14-Nov-18 22:36
Re: you're missing the point 186 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 23:06
Re: Scientific proof 171 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Scientific proof 183 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:08
Re: Scientific proof 169 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:00
Re: Scientific proof 191 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:42
Re: Negative proof theory 178 Enigcom 14-Nov-18 17:26
Re: Negative proof theory 180 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Negative proof theory 175 Enigcom 14-Nov-18 18:11
Re: Negative proof theory 190 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 21:15
Re: Negative proof theory 173 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Negative proof theory 181 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:08
Re: Negative proof theory 170 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 07:49
Re: Negative proof theory 187 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 09:07
Re: Negative proof theory 180 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 13:19
scientism and young minds 187 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 19:40
Re: scientism and young minds 189 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 06:44
From the rabbit hole again 174 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 07:49
Re: From the rabbit hole again 169 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 08:22
Re: From the rabbit hole again 176 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 12:33
Re: From the rabbit hole again 172 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 13:36
In a nutshell 182 greengirl5 16-Nov-18 21:23
Re: In a nutshell 171 Susan Doris 17-Nov-18 05:58
Re: In a nutshell 166 greengirl5 17-Nov-18 21:29
Re: In a nutshell 183 Susan Doris 18-Nov-18 05:43
Re: In a nutshell 174 greengirl5 18-Nov-18 11:14
Corrected "demans" to "demands" 176 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 07:36
Glad to be free! 178 greengirl5 16-Nov-18 11:52
God fixation 186 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:37
Re: God fixation 168 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:36
Re: God fixation 200 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:13
Re: God fixation 188 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 07:53

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