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Your misuse of science is often in a form called "scientism."
And this whole post of yours is yet another attempt to depict a person with zero 100% faith beliefs, who notices that you cannot bear the thought of your faith belief being shown up to be entirely subjective with not one scrap of objective evidence to back it up. You put on an air ofwhich comes across clearly, to me, of: 'I am the scientist and therefore I know mor than you do.' But you constantly evade any challenge to your 100% faith belief. The other day you presented your belief in a much clearer way, but you will never admit that it has zero objective evidence, will you?

Here are two of your statements:

I think it is important that if a statement is made that something is true, it should be able to be backed up by appropriate and objective evidence.
It is never expected that statements be backed up by evidence unless they are presented as scientific or scientific like statements,
Why is this a misuse of science? I think it is you who is more likely to misuse science by trying to portray your religious beliefs as somehow associated with your work, even though you try to disguise that by saying that you separate the two – religion and science. But you do that by avoiding having a need to present objective evidence for your faith beliefs in your work, I think.

expressed as the findings of some study. Such statements are relatively rare, since scientists only study a small sliver of phenomena or experiences one might report. You call them
Please specify exactly what you mean by this “them”.

"statements of fact", and combine them with all other statements. Then, you treat those statements that couldn't be possibly studied in a scientific way with the invalid evidence requirements of scientific studies.
I do not accept that sweeping generalisation unless you can provide specific examples of what you mean.
Also, That is incorrect. I am fully aware, as I wonder if you indeed are, that it is not possible to study any hypothesis suggesting that anything totally lacking in observability can be studied using the scientific method.

That's scientism.
Find all the definitions of the word and amongst them find one which did not originate from a faith believer attempting to deflect science in order to retain their confirmation bias that there is actually an existing something to study in their beliefs..


Children are not allowed, or supposed to be allowed, to read forums like this, but if they do, I think the more of future generations who can distinguish between fact and fiction, and thus are able to really realise the amazing evolved reality and huge potential of our human brains, then the better that will be.
GHMB has specifically required that adult themes only be discussed in the Mature board so that young people be able to read the other GHMB forums--and they do. When they are confronted with your scientistic demans for evidence, and your claims about the "amazing evolved reality and huge potential of our human brains," it is more likely that they go away confused about science rather than swayed by your evangelistic atheism.
What are ‘scientistic demans’? Define ‘scientistic’ when checking out origins of ‘scientism’.
And you think they will not be even more confused by your non-scientific acceptance of a faith belief?

You need to come up with a fact (not 100% fact, but one with a teeny-tiny gap allowed for the possibility of some god one day appearing and being provable) if if you wish your accusations about me to have the strength you think they have. Unfortunately the bottom line is that your emperor has no clothes!

And just another thought: how can you possibly think it is not the best thing for future generations to understand the infinite extent, capabilities and wonder of the physical human brain? They would then understand, one hopes, the history of belief and the aspects of the brain's unlimited imagination which have thought of and then continuously inculcated and reinforced that belief, in spite of total lack of objective evidence for it.


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 16-Nov-18 06:47 by Susan Doris.

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Negative proof theory 1093 greengirl5 12-Nov-18 20:38
Re: Negative proof theory 224 Jock 12-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Negative proof theory 202 Itatw70s 12-Nov-18 21:04
Re: Negative proof theory 191 Jock 13-Nov-18 00:00
Re: Negative proof theory 195 Enigcom 12-Nov-18 22:39
Re: Negative proof theory 193 Jock 13-Nov-18 00:01
Re: Negative proof theory 202 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 00:22
Re: Negative proof theory 179 Jock 13-Nov-18 01:55
Re: Negative proof theory 180 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:27
Re: Negative proof theory 188 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:50
Re: Negative proof theory 185 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 02:00
Half believing 186 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 01:49
I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 206 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 01:56
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 195 Jock 13-Nov-18 06:43
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 202 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 08:53
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 190 Jock 14-Nov-18 00:10
Surprise! 194 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 00:23
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 189 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:33
Re: Half believing 183 Jock 13-Nov-18 01:57
Re: Half believing 200 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 02:05
Re: Half believing 188 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:40
Re: Half believing 194 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:00
Re: Negative proof theory 203 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:34
Believe it or not 202 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:13
Re: Believe it or not 204 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:53
The parallel in science 190 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 01:13
Re: The parallel in science 183 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:09
Waiting? 190 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 06:12
Re: Waiting? 186 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 06:34
Re: Waiting? 197 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 12:02
Sticking to science 186 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 07:00
Re: Sticking to science 190 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 07:52
Re: Sticking to science 178 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 12:05
Re: The parallel in science 186 Jock 15-Nov-18 00:44
Re: The parallel in science 185 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 01:50
Null hypothesis 189 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 02:56
Ah, nothing! 187 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:23
Re: Null hypothesis 184 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 15:25
Re: Null hypothesis 186 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 18:02
Re: Negative proof theory 318 PB Bytes 18-Nov-18 17:49
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 205 Eddie Larry 13-Nov-18 23:58
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 184 Jock 14-Nov-18 00:07
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 192 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 00:29
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 201 Jock 14-Nov-18 05:20
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 192 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 16:33
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 202 Jock 15-Nov-18 01:52
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 177 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 03:23
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 189 Jock 15-Nov-18 05:12
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 172 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 15:00
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 185 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 00:30
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 182 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 00:43
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 197 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 01:57
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 177 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 01:58
WOW! 183 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 06:30
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 200 Jock 14-Nov-18 05:22
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 175 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 16:40
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 191 Jock 15-Nov-18 00:21
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 181 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 02:14
Karl Popper 194 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Karl Popper 178 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 02:19
Answering myself 188 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:14
Re: Answering myself 198 Jock 15-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Answering myself 190 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:27
Re: Answering myself 167 Jock 15-Nov-18 05:14
Re: Answering myself 175 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 06:57
Re: Answering myself 235 jazzmumbles 15-Nov-18 16:48
Re: Answering myself 200 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 21:22
Re: Negative proof theory 197 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 12:45
Scientific proof 176 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 15:02
Re: Scientific proof 191 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 15:53
you're missing the point 198 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 19:08
Re: you're missing the point 184 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:58
Re: you're missing the point 174 Jock 14-Nov-18 21:58
Re: you're missing the point 191 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 22:22
Re: you're missing the point 207 Jock 14-Nov-18 22:36
Re: you're missing the point 192 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 23:06
Re: Scientific proof 180 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Scientific proof 191 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:08
Re: Scientific proof 176 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:00
Re: Scientific proof 199 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:42
Re: Negative proof theory 185 Enigcom 14-Nov-18 17:26
Re: Negative proof theory 185 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Negative proof theory 181 Enigcom 14-Nov-18 18:11
Re: Negative proof theory 196 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 21:15
Re: Negative proof theory 181 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Negative proof theory 187 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:08
Re: Negative proof theory 175 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 07:49
Re: Negative proof theory 197 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 09:07
Re: Negative proof theory 187 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 13:19
scientism and young minds 195 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 19:40
Re: scientism and young minds 197 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 06:44
From the rabbit hole again 182 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 07:49
Re: From the rabbit hole again 176 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 08:22
Re: From the rabbit hole again 184 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 12:33
Re: From the rabbit hole again 177 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 13:36
In a nutshell 189 greengirl5 16-Nov-18 21:23
Re: In a nutshell 177 Susan Doris 17-Nov-18 05:58
Re: In a nutshell 174 greengirl5 17-Nov-18 21:29
Re: In a nutshell 190 Susan Doris 18-Nov-18 05:43
Re: In a nutshell 180 greengirl5 18-Nov-18 11:14
Corrected "demans" to "demands" 184 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 07:36
Glad to be free! 186 greengirl5 16-Nov-18 11:52
God fixation 192 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:37
Re: God fixation 173 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:36
Re: God fixation 206 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:13
Re: God fixation 195 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 07:53

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