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Jock,

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I don't favor materialist alternatives. I am content with null hypothesis. Everything else is just believing whatever you think.

Ray: Nope. That's not how the game is played--at least in science. One cannot believe in the chance comparison and do science, because, then, you've lost your measuring stick.

Rejecting chance is how one supports a hypothesis. Failing to reject chance usually means that one did the study wrong.

Just as accepting the null hypothesis violates the rules of science, believing in nothing violates procedures in philosophy.

"Can one believe in nothing?" Here's what google says:

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No - because believing in “nothing” itself amounts to believing the fact that you do not believe in “nothing”. ... Going a step further it is “DEATH” - which translates into non belief in everything or belief in nothing.

[www.google.com]

I don't know how one can accept "nothing" as a component of one's belief structure--but then, I'm not a philosopher.

Ray

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Negative proof theory 825 greengirl5 12-Nov-18 20:38
Re: Negative proof theory 113 Jock 12-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Negative proof theory 106 Itatw70s 12-Nov-18 21:04
Re: Negative proof theory 100 Jock 13-Nov-18 00:00
Re: Negative proof theory 103 Enigcom 12-Nov-18 22:39
Re: Negative proof theory 99 Jock 13-Nov-18 00:01
Re: Negative proof theory 102 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 00:22
Re: Negative proof theory 98 Jock 13-Nov-18 01:55
Re: Negative proof theory 94 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:27
Re: Negative proof theory 97 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:50
Re: Negative proof theory 93 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 02:00
Half believing 94 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 01:49
I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 89 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 01:56
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 96 Jock 13-Nov-18 06:43
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 99 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 08:53
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 92 Jock 14-Nov-18 00:10
Surprise! 91 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 00:23
Re: I don't believe the sun will rise tomorrow 94 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:33
Re: Half believing 98 Jock 13-Nov-18 01:57
Re: Half believing 97 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 02:05
Re: Half believing 92 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:40
Re: Half believing 92 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:00
Re: Negative proof theory 98 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:34
Believe it or not 100 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:13
Re: Believe it or not 99 Itatw70s 13-Nov-18 12:53
The parallel in science 91 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 01:13
Re: The parallel in science 94 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:09
Waiting? 84 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 06:12
Re: Waiting? 85 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 06:34
Re: Waiting? 86 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 12:02
Sticking to science 83 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 07:00
Re: Sticking to science 92 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 07:52
Re: Sticking to science 92 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 12:05
Re: The parallel in science 87 Jock 15-Nov-18 00:44
Re: The parallel in science 89 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 01:50
Null hypothesis 89 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 02:56
Ah, nothing! 85 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:23
Re: Null hypothesis 89 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 15:25
Re: Null hypothesis 81 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 18:02
Re: Negative proof theory 151 Poster Boy 18-Nov-18 17:49
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 91 Eddie Larry 13-Nov-18 23:58
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 94 Jock 14-Nov-18 00:07
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 93 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 00:29
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 93 Jock 14-Nov-18 05:20
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 94 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 16:33
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 88 Jock 15-Nov-18 01:52
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 91 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 03:23
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 88 Jock 15-Nov-18 05:12
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) 85 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 15:00
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 97 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 00:30
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 96 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 00:43
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 93 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 01:57
Re: Negative proof theory (NPT) or P.D. 96 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 01:58
WOW! 91 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 06:30
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 95 Jock 14-Nov-18 05:22
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 92 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 16:40
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 86 Jock 15-Nov-18 00:21
Re: Negative proof is not a theory. 85 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 02:14
Karl Popper 93 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Karl Popper 87 Eddie Larry 15-Nov-18 02:19
Answering myself 86 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:14
Re: Answering myself 92 Jock 15-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Answering myself 91 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 03:27
Re: Answering myself 87 Jock 15-Nov-18 05:14
Re: Answering myself 90 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 06:57
Re: Answering myself 108 jazzmumbles 15-Nov-18 16:48
Re: Answering myself 89 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 21:22
Re: Negative proof theory 99 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 12:45
Scientific proof 87 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 15:02
Re: Scientific proof 90 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 15:53
you're missing the point 91 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 19:08
Re: you're missing the point 88 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:58
Re: you're missing the point 85 Jock 14-Nov-18 21:58
Re: you're missing the point 91 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-18 22:22
Re: you're missing the point 92 Jock 14-Nov-18 22:36
Re: you're missing the point 94 drrayeye 14-Nov-18 23:06
Re: Scientific proof 93 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Scientific proof 86 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:08
Re: Scientific proof 90 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:00
Re: Scientific proof 93 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:42
Re: Negative proof theory 91 Enigcom 14-Nov-18 17:26
Re: Negative proof theory 99 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Negative proof theory 93 Enigcom 14-Nov-18 18:11
Re: Negative proof theory 93 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 21:15
Re: Negative proof theory 86 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Negative proof theory 89 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:08
Re: Negative proof theory 94 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 07:49
Re: Negative proof theory 91 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 09:07
Re: Negative proof theory 90 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 13:19
scientism and young minds 90 drrayeye 15-Nov-18 19:40
Re: scientism and young minds 89 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 06:44
From the rabbit hole again 81 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 07:49
Re: From the rabbit hole again 87 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 08:22
Re: From the rabbit hole again 88 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 12:33
Re: From the rabbit hole again 90 Susan Doris 16-Nov-18 13:36
In a nutshell 85 greengirl5 16-Nov-18 21:23
Re: In a nutshell 89 Susan Doris 17-Nov-18 05:58
Re: In a nutshell 86 greengirl5 17-Nov-18 21:29
Re: In a nutshell 86 Susan Doris 18-Nov-18 05:43
Re: In a nutshell 87 greengirl5 18-Nov-18 11:14
Corrected "demans" to "demands" 84 drrayeye 16-Nov-18 07:36
Glad to be free! 83 greengirl5 16-Nov-18 11:52
God fixation 94 greengirl5 14-Nov-18 20:37
Re: God fixation 90 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 06:36
Re: God fixation 103 greengirl5 15-Nov-18 07:13
Re: God fixation 102 Susan Doris 15-Nov-18 07:53


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